French mag. Charlie Hebdo--12 killed, many injured in attack

[Risottia]

No, the bit about perfume was just the typical French hate for personal hygiene showing its ugly head.

And obsession with smelly cheeses. But I digress.

Smelly cheese is best cheese! You insulted the Camembert! Guerre sacrée on you and on all the Camembert-haters!

Uhm...

Damn, I really suck at launching holy wars.

[Evil the Great]

Already tried.

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Luckily France grew out of it.

Appropriate for terrorists, though. We need some shock value in our punishments for terrorists. Releasing them after 20 years is not very good at doing anything. Except converting inmates to salafism.

Anyway how about re-implementing the republican oath all religious ministers had to take under the Convention's rule? I suggest those who'll refuse ( fundies ), be kicked out of France for life. Also, close fundie Mosques ( I heard one of the brothers was going to one, that's ridiculous that he could in the first place.

Republican Mosques or nothing.

No, the bit about perfume was just the typical French hate for personal hygiene showing its ugly head.

Hurr, total cliché dating back to the 18th century. I've heard idiot americans claiming that french women don't shave their armpits or whatever. Total idiocy from A to Z.

[Evil the Great]

Damn, I really suck at launching holy wars.

It's because you chose the wrong extreme of the political spectrum. Nazis, to the contrary, are great at doing that... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HK2lNuiD7gM

[Costa Fierro]

And obsession with smelly cheeses. But I digress.

Smelly cheese is best cheese! You insulted the Camembert! Guerre sacrée on you and on all the Camembert-haters!

Uhm...

Damn, I really suck at launching holy wars.

Behead those who eat cheddar.

[Risottia]

Already tried.
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Luckily France grew out of it.

Appropriate for terrorists, though. We need some shock value in our punishments for terrorists.

I doubt that the death penalty has any shock value for terrorists, given how those terrorists generally love the idea of being killed - thus ending up looking like martyrs for the next generation of terrorists. I guess they would hate much more the idea of rotting in jail like the common criminals they are - nothing different from mafiosi, robbers, or rapists.

Releasing them after 20 years is not very good at doing anything.

This. So, basically, we only need to bring back the life sentences.

Except converting inmates to salafism.

That's also a problem. Lots of countries in Europe need a massive overhaul of their prison system.

Anyway how about re-implementing the republican oath all religious ministers had to take under the Convention's rule?

I don't think it's a good idea. This makes religious ministers basically equivalent to public officials. Also, one could LIE while taking an oath, then hold perfectly normal PUBLIC religious functions, and continue fostering fundamentalism and anti-republican values in private cerimonies.

close fundie Mosques

This, absolutely. Just like any kind of violence-supporting instance. Religion is just one out of many aspects of culture, and it shouldn't be treated differently.

Republican Mosques or nothing.

You can't get them by an edict ordering them to quit being fundie. You can get them by enacting integration policies to the maximum possible extent - and through an extensive intelligence network to spot the violence-supporters before they can turn their idiocy into actions.

No, the bit about perfume was just the typical French hate for personal hygiene showing its ugly head.

Hurr, total cliché dating back to the 18th century. I've heard idiot americans claiming that french women don't shave their armpits or whatever. Total idiocy from A to Z.

Eh, but stupid stereotypes can be funny!

[Evil the Great]

I doubt that the death penalty has any shock value for terrorists, given how those terrorists generally love the idea of being killed - thus ending up looking like martyrs for the next generation of terrorists. I guess they would hate much more the idea of rotting in jail like the common criminals they are - nothing different from mafiosi, robbers, or rapists.

Problem is: France's carceral population is very muslim and arabic. The opportunities for terrorists to convert people there are endless. So at least put them in a special prison ( but everyone will scream "boohoohoo Guantanamo"... ). I'd probably re-open Cayenne. Minus the concentration camp atmosphere of course.

This. So, basically, we only need to bring back the life sentences.

UMP and PS do not have the balls necessary to do that, and proved it.

I don't think it's a good idea. This makes religious ministers basically equivalent to public officials. Also, one could LIE while taking an oath, then hold perfectly normal PUBLIC religious functions, and continue fostering fundamentalism and anti-republican values in private cerimonies.

No, I don't mean to make them government workers, which is what the First French Republic did. Just, make them swear an oath, and check that they are indeed acting accordingly. Punishment for not doing so should be jail or exile.

Eh, but stupid stereotypes can be funny!

[Sebastianbourg]

Anyway how about re-implementing the republican oath all religious ministers had to take under the Convention's rule?

I don't think it's a good idea. This makes religious ministers basically equivalent to public officials. Also, one could LIE while taking an oath, then hold perfectly normal PUBLIC religious functions, and continue fostering fundamentalism and anti-republican values in private cerimonies.

Would this include constitutional monarchists or just the 'Saudi Arabia ftw' types?

[Sebastianbourg]

This. So, basically, we only need to bring back the life sentences.

UMP and PS do not have the balls necessary to do that, and proved it.

Wikipedia says France does have life imprisonment but parole is typically granted after 18-22 years.

[Evil the Great]

Wikipedia says France does have life imprisonment but parole is typically granted after 18-22 years.

Yeah, and that's systematic. So that's a bullshit life imprisonment. Like in Norway.

[Sebastianbourg]

Wikipedia says France does have life imprisonment but parole is typically granted after 18-22 years.

Yeah, and that's systematic. So that's a bullshit life imprisonment. Like in Norway.

It also says in extreme cases inmates have to wait 30 years. That's not good but it's a bit better I suppose.

[Evil the Great]

We have footage of the terrorist's neutralization at La Porte de Vincennes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKWtDn0RMYg

Not really graphic, don't worry.

[The Conez Imperium]

We have footage of the terrorist's neutralization at La Porte de Vincennes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKWtDn0RMYg

Not really graphic, don't worry.

Was that a terrorist that ran out and immediately got gunned down or was that a hostage?

[The Blaatschapen]

And obsession with smelly cheeses. But I digress.

Smelly cheese is best cheese! You insulted the Camembert! Guerre sacrée on you and on all the Camembert-haters!

Uhm...

Damn, I really suck at launching holy wars.

That's because you're Lombardian. The pope is in Rome, not Milan for a good reason

[Costa Fierro]

Interesting responses from Arab newspapers.

[Evil the Great]

Was that a terrorist that ran out and immediately got gunned down or was that a hostage?

Obviously the terrorist.

[Herskerstad]

Islamic leaders in Norway has at least now expressed a disdain towards the rights of free expression to the extent that it involves Muhammad.

At least it was not as badly phrased as some Swedish journalists who questioned the innocence on those that were killed, because, yknow, satire is such a malicious crime in their uber politically correct minds, but yeah, there stands no right not to be offended and no legal requirement prohibiting others to offend, and it should remain as such.

[Evil the Great]

The dude was shot 60 times. Cops went berzerk.

[Quintium]

The dude was shot 60 times. Cops went berzerk.

Just watched the video of the supermarket guy being killed.
Pretty cool. They couldn't stop shooting him even when he was already dead.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The dude was shot 60 times. Cops went berzerk.

60 times? Good god, overkill much.

[Evil the Great]

Just watched the video of the supermarket guy being killed.
Pretty cool. They couldn't stop shooting him even when he was already dead.

They were making sure he was. They probably were being emotional about the fact some of their colleagues got killed, too.

60 times? Good god, overkill much.

Check the french military/police record. Shit really gets hardcore when we don't surrender

[Sebastianbourg]

The dude was shot 60 times. Cops went berzerk.

This gives a whole new meaning to that verse of the national anthem sometimes said to be racist.

[Dain II Ironfoot]

He had his horrific murder coming for drawing some raunchy cartoons? That is essentially implying that he deserved it.

I'd find a better way of expressing whatever it is that your position entails.

I think Dain is suggesting he knew the likely consequences of his actions, an attempt(s) on his life and the lives of those he works with. Not that such attempts were justified.

exactly, thank you.

[Evil the Great]

This gives a whole new meaning to that verse of the national anthem sometimes said to be racist.

Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!

Last time it was checked, France was the most racist country in Europe. Second behind Russia, if you count them in Europe.

[Sebastianbourg]

This gives a whole new meaning to that verse of the national anthem sometimes said to be racist.

Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!

Last time it was checked, France was the most racist country in Europe. Second behind Russia, if you count them in Europe.

[Saiwania]

Qu'un sang impur abreuve nos sillons!
Last time it was checked, France was the most racist country in Europe. Second behind Russia, if you count them in Europe.

If France was racist, I'd know about it- but they fall far short of my expectations. Now Japan on the other hand, I can't be any prouder of. The Japanese allow hardly any immigration and are very good at keeping Japan for the Japanese.