French mag. Charlie Hebdo--12 killed, many injured in attack

[Geilinor]

Supporting taking college educated immigrants over others puts Olerand in extremist row? Wow, that must mean most voters in Canada are extremist Islamophobes.

There's nothing Islamaphobic about being glad about a violent terrorist attack that killed many people because it proves your assertions about the religion and its faithful "correct". Nope.

That post was sarcasm.

[Gauthier]

There's nothing Islamaphobic about being glad about a violent terrorist attack that killed many people because it proves your assertions about the religion and its faithful "correct". Nope.

That post was sarcasm.

I wasn't even talking about that "sarcasm".

[Estva]

There's nothing Islamaphobic about being glad about a violent terrorist attack that killed many people because it proves your assertions about the religion and its faithful "correct". Nope.

That post was sarcasm.

Ole's posts, pretty much everywhere, have been pretty xenophobic.

[Geilinor]

That post was sarcasm.

Ole's posts, pretty much everywhere, have been pretty xenophobic.

And some of it makes a great deal of sense.

[Estva]

Ole's posts, pretty much everywhere, have been pretty xenophobic.

And some of it makes a great deal of sense.

Such as? No one is saying criticizing radical jihadis is wrong. But every other post is a slam against Muslims, Americans, or people who aren't French in general.

[Geilinor]

And some of it makes a great deal of sense.

Such as? No one is saying criticizing radical jihadis is wrong. But every other post is a slam against Muslims, Americans, or people who aren't French in general.

Such as that in particular.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

And some of it makes a great deal of sense.

Such as? No one is saying criticizing radical jihadis is wrong. But every other post is a slam against Muslims, Americans, or people who aren't French in general.

Basically anyone who isn't a French nationalist.

[Gauthier]

Such as? No one is saying criticizing radical jihadis is wrong. But every other post is a slam against Muslims, Americans, or people who aren't French in general.

Such as that in particular.

Except he's claiming the jihadis are representative of France's entire Muslim population.

[Estva]

Such as? No one is saying criticizing radical jihadis is wrong. But every other post is a slam against Muslims, Americans, or people who aren't French in general.

Such as that in particular.

Then perhaps you should take the other stuff into account when defending him/her.

[Geilinor]

Such as that in particular.

Except he's claiming the jihadis are representative of France's entire Muslim population.

Olerand never claimed that all Muslims are violent. The posts are mostly targeted towards extremists.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

I'm also at fault for this, but this thread isn't about Olerand. It's about a terrorist attack. Again, I don't want to sound hypocritical, since I did chime in.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Such as that in particular.

Except he's claiming the jihadis are representative of France's entire Muslim population.

Including, I assume, the police officer who was killed by them during the attack.

Genius. Nobody would have expected that.

[Anglo-California]

Seem to me you're giddy that French Muslims are falling into the Mindless Violent Jihadi stereotypes.

I'm beyond pleased that the future of France looks like this, yes. Between secular college graduates, and these fine young folk, I choose them.

Your sarcasm is dry enough to be funny, yet subtle enough to go unnoticed by the untrained eye. Well done.

[Saint-Thor]

I really hope they will carry on the spirit of Charlie Hebdo. I must give them that, the French had the balls to expand the boundaries of freedom of speech, which is quite rare in North America. I know the French have an experience in satyrical pamphlets, something you can trace back to the Lumières where insulting the nobility was almost a national sport.

[Beta Test]

The police and the media have been saying that the female accomplice of the supermarket gunmen wasn't actually there but if you watch this video you can see a woman running off away from the police. Of course it could be someone else altogether but I find this to be most strange.

[Risottia]

The police and the media have been saying that the female accomplice of the supermarket gunmen wasn't actually there but if you watch this video you can see a woman running off away from the police. Of course it could be someone else altogether but I find this to be most strange.

You really don't expect the French police forces to disclose all the details of an operation that's still ongoing, do you?

[Costa Fierro]

I'm not a Westerner. At all. So, having R-word priviledge, I can safely say that certain groups of..., lets call them "people", who have chosen pages and quotations from Quaran in their heads, are not used to the same things that are held "sacred" by the Western society.

For them it is their Faith and Prophet who are sacred, not Freedom of Speech and Expression. And it's rather naive to ask them not to commit killing and mayhem in the name of "universal values" (tm)

But then we get to the conclusion the far-right supports. "If they won't stop killing, they should be kicked out or killed". Is that what should be done to extremists?

Death, obviously. Behead those who insult secularism.

[Beta Test]

The police and the media have been saying that the female accomplice of the supermarket gunmen wasn't actually there but if you watch this video you can see a woman running off away from the police. Of course it could be someone else altogether but I find this to be most strange.

You really don't expect the French police forces to disclose all the details of an operation that's still ongoing, do you?

No of course not although I don't see the danger in releasing this particular detail. They have said she is still at large, so why not admit she was there?

[The Alma Mater]

The police and the media have been saying that the female accomplice of the supermarket gunmen wasn't actually there but if you watch this video you can see a woman running off away from the police. Of course it could be someone else altogether but I find this to be most strange.

You really don't expect the French police forces to disclose all the details of an operation that's still ongoing, do you?

I dunno. French media thought it was a bloody great idea to reveal the exact location of the person hiding under the sink in the warehouse while the terrorists were still there. No idea if the French police is more intelligent...

[Risottia]

But then we get to the conclusion the far-right supports. "If they won't stop killing, they should be kicked out or killed". Is that what should be done to extremists?

Death, obviously. Behead those who insult secularism.

Already tried.



Luckily France grew out of it.

[Costa Fierro]

Death, obviously. Behead those who insult secularism.

Already tried.



Luckily France grew out of it.

I thought that was "behead those who wear perfume".

[Risottia]

I thought that was "behead those who wear perfume".

No, the bit about perfume was just the typical French hate for personal hygiene showing its ugly head.

[The Alma Mater]

Already tried.

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Luckily France grew out of it.

I thought that was "behead those who wear perfume".

Well, "christ" does mean "covered in scented oils"...

[Costa Fierro]

I thought that was "behead those who wear perfume".

No, the bit about perfume was just the typical French hate for personal hygiene showing its ugly head.

And obsession with smelly cheeses. But I digress.

[Risottia]

You really don't expect the French police forces to disclose all the details of an operation that's still ongoing, do you?

I dunno. French media thought it was a bloody great idea to reveal the exact location of the person hiding under the sink in the warehouse while the terrorists were still there. No idea if the French police is more intelligent...

Overall, they tend to be - not that it takes a lot to be more intelligent than that. Especially when some of the media have just showed themselves to be so careless.