French mag. Charlie Hebdo--12 killed, many injured in attack

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Well,at least we learned drones are bad for shooting people.
(See every USA drone ever)
So,12 were killed,many injured.Thread over!

I'm guessing you don't realize how impactful this event was.

"So, a gunman opened fire on a motorcade in Dallas, and one person died. Thread over!"

[The Lotophagi]

Ideals like that aren't worth 12 civilian casualties.

And yet those people died BECAUSE they believed in such ideals.

The French Republic was founded on such ideals.

[Edgy Opinions]

No, it's regarded an Asian religion (much like Judaism) most prevalent in Asian (as well as Afro-Asian and African) cultures and civilizations, with the exceptions being Turkey, Azerbaijan, the northern slopes of the Caucasus as well as parts of Russia, Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia, and historically Malta, Sicily and Iberia.

Most of these places are in the Middle East/Asia Minor, which is in Asia, so less exemptions

Their cultures are often loosely on the European side or carry a decisive influence of it.

Differently from Arabs, who are most definitively non-European.

Saying historical Anatolia is Western is more or less okay. We can't call the Arabian Peninsula that, though.

[Benuty]

I'm guessing you don't realize how impactful this event was.

"So, a gunman opened fire on a motorcade in Dallas, and one person died. Thread over!"

I suppose it was kinder what happened to him, than what happened to Rosemary.

Oh well I guess the Soviets can come on over now.

[Benuty]

Most of these places are in the Middle East/Asia Minor, which is in Asia, so less exemptions

Their cultures are often loosely on the European side or carry a decisive influence of it.

Differently from Arabs, who are most definitively non-European.

Saying historical Anatolia is Western is more or less okay. We can't call the Arabian Peninsula that, though.

It is all Afro-Eurasia.

[Edgy Opinions]

That is the societal cost of having a country that believes in freedom of speech, protection of privacy, unhindered movements, etc.

Ideals like that aren't worth 12 civilian casualties.

Their inversions often cause a millionfold of these figures.

[Edgy Opinions]

It is all Afro-Eurasia.

Of course Western/European is a social construct.

It's very important to frame the historical perception of Arab and Arabized cultures as brown/Oriental, though.

[Farnhamia]

I'm guessing you don't realize how impactful this event was.

"So, a gunman opened fire on a motorcade in Dallas, and one person died. Thread over!"

As Mr. Donne wrote, "No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee."

David Brooks, with whom I do not agree much of the time, did make some valid points in his most recent column:

In most societies, there’s the adults’ table and there’s the kids’ table. The people who read Le Monde or the establishment organs are at the adults’ table. The jesters, the holy fools and people like Ann Coulter and Bill Maher are at the kids’ table. They’re not granted complete respectability, but they are heard because in their unguided missile manner, they sometimes say necessary things that no one else is saying.

Healthy societies, in other words, don’t suppress speech, but they do grant different standing to different sorts of people. Wise and considerate scholars are heard with high respect. Satirists are heard with bemused semirespect. Racists and anti-Semites are heard through a filter of opprobrium and disrespect. People who want to be heard attentively have to earn it through their conduct.

The massacre at Charlie Hebdo should be an occasion to end speech codes. And it should remind us to be legally tolerant toward offensive voices, even as we are socially discriminating.

[Nuwe Suid Afrika]

One of my friends sent me a video regarding Charlie Hebdo and it contained the full content of the assault. Terrible.

I'm sure PEGIDA is furious, and I'm by their side.

[Outer Sparta]

Je suis Charlie!

[Empire of Narnia]

The lady terrorist is still on the run. I wonder how long it will be before they catch her.

[Organized States]

The lady terrorist is still on the run. I wonder how long it will be before they catch her.

Hours. With how many cameras and spooky Facial ID software exsist, it can't be long.

[The Conez Imperium]

The lady terrorist is still on the run. I wonder how long it will be before they catch her.

Hours. With how many cameras and spooky Facial ID software exsist, it can't be long.

The French are ruthless in conducting the manhunt. I have no doubt she will be caught or killed within the coming days.

[Romalae]

The lady terrorist is still on the run. I wonder how long it will be before they catch her.

How many kitchens could there be in France?

[Bezkoshtovnya]

The lady terrorist is still on the run. I wonder how long it will be before they catch her.

How many kitchens could there be in France?

In France?
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[Yumyumsuppertime]

"So, a gunman opened fire on a motorcade in Dallas, and one person died. Thread over!"

As Mr. Donne wrote, "No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee."

David Brooks, with whom I do not agree much of the time, did make some valid points in his most recent column:

In most societies, there’s the adults’ table and there’s the kids’ table. The people who read Le Monde or the establishment organs are at the adults’ table. The jesters, the holy fools and people like Ann Coulter and Bill Maher are at the kids’ table. They’re not granted complete respectability, but they are heard because in their unguided missile manner, they sometimes say necessary things that no one else is saying.

Healthy societies, in other words, don’t suppress speech, but they do grant different standing to different sorts of people. Wise and considerate scholars are heard with high respect. Satirists are heard with bemused semirespect. Racists and anti-Semites are heard through a filter of opprobrium and disrespect. People who want to be heard attentively have to earn it through their conduct.

The massacre at Charlie Hebdo should be an occasion to end speech codes. And it should remind us to be legally tolerant toward offensive voices, even as we are socially discriminating.

Abso-freaking-lutely.

[Gauthier]

As Mr. Donne wrote, "No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were: any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bells tolls; it tolls for thee."

David Brooks, with whom I do not agree much of the time, did make some valid points in his most recent column:

Abso-freaking-lutely.

Even when the offensive voices unfairly generalize an entire demographics and lump them together with radical fringes like the ones who attacked the magazine and call for their internment/deportation/criminalization? Because if this thread is just a fraction of what happens on the Internet it's all but guaranteed people are just going to ramp up slurs about Muslims all being genetically intolerant and violent subhuman anthropomorphic evil.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Abso-freaking-lutely.

Even when the offensive voices unfairly generalize an entire demographics and lump them together with radical fringes like the ones who attacked the magazine and call for their internment/deportation/criminalization?

Yes. They fall under the "filter of opprobrium and disrespect" heading for me.

[Lytenburgh]

Hollande, who's now is trying to hastily cover up the failure of intelligence agencie, who've missed the attack, and fuck ups, done by the police, has announced that up several thousands of French citizens could belong to jihadist networks and, right now, train in countries, where France attempted to "plant" the democracy.

One of the possible future scenarios, is that the attention of the society might be shifted from the mounting challenges at home, to the endless struggle against the jihadists in the Middle East, although France won't take part in the ground operation. It will help Americans to intensively bomb positions of ISIS and then. triumphantly, report to the media, something along the lines of "Mission Accomplished". Because, right now, despite all talks abour Liberalism, Democracy and Tolerance, people want revenge. And, naturally, all French government can to offer, is this fighting against the windmills:

[Olerand]

Le Monde has run a great article about how the teenagers of Saint-Denis are in fact, not Charlie.

Because, and I quote: "I have no pity for him(Charb, the editor). He has no respect for us, Muslims."

I was surprised Le Monde would dare run such an article, but I am quite pleased it's willing to actually cover reality.

[Al Nahar]

Hollande, who's now is trying to hastily cover up the failure of intelligence agencie, who've missed the attack, and fuck ups, done by the police, has announced that up several thousands of French citizens could belong to jihadist networks and, right now, train in countries, where France attempted to "plant" the democracy.

One of the possible future scenarios, is that the attention of the society might be shifted from the mounting challenges at home, to the endless struggle against the jihadists in the Middle East, although France won't take part in the ground operation. It will help Americans to intensively bomb positions of ISIS and then. triumphantly, report to the media, something along the lines of "Mission Accomplished". Because, right now, despite all talks abour Liberalism, Democracy and Tolerance, people want revenge. And, naturally, all French government can to offer, is this fighting against the windmills:

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I dont want to threadjack but the war in Syria is far more complicated than the simple saying of the West sending Jihadists to fight the mighy good regime of Bashar al Assad.

[Susurruses]

Le Monde has run a great article about how the teenagers of Saint-Denis are in fact, not Charlie.

Because, and I quote: "I have no pity for him(Charb, the editor). He has no respect for us, Muslims."

I was surprised Le Monde would dare run such an article, but I am quite pleased it's willing to actually cover reality.

... are you saying they're wrong?
Because based on what I've seen... the cartoons produced were kind of blatantly racist (amongst other things).
So.. I can't really blame local citizens for not pitying a piece of shit that made life harder for them and those like them.

[Beta Test]

Le Monde has run a great article about how the teenagers of Saint-Denis are in fact, not Charlie.

Because, and I quote: "I have no pity for him(Charb, the editor). He has no respect for us, Muslims."

I was surprised Le Monde would dare run such an article, but I am quite pleased it's willing to actually cover reality.

... are you saying they're wrong?
Because based on what I've seen... the cartoons produced were kind of blatantly racist (amongst other things).
So.. I can't really blame local citizens for not pitying a piece of shit that made life harder for them and those like them.

...

[Olerand]

A better quote: "We don't joke around with religion... It's dangerous. If they have killed Charlie( as in Charb, who these sweethearts clearly think is this "Charlie"), it's because he doesn't respect religion. They attacked Islam, and here, they see another face of Islam, anger. If Charlie continues(apparently to exist), the youth here will have to move(take actions into their own hands)."

Another gem: "There was no need to kill a dozen people.They could have just killed him( as in Charlie, as in Charb)."

The future of France is looking bright.

[Olerand]

Le Monde has run a great article about how the teenagers of Saint-Denis are in fact, not Charlie.

Because, and I quote: "I have no pity for him(Charb, the editor). He has no respect for us, Muslims."

I was surprised Le Monde would dare run such an article, but I am quite pleased it's willing to actually cover reality.

... are you saying they're wrong?
Because based on what I've seen... the cartoons produced were kind of blatantly racist (amongst other things).
So.. I can't really blame local citizens for not pitying a piece of shit that made life harder for them and those like them.

You're right. The punishment for blapshemy is in fact death.
France 2015, France 1115. 0 progress.

Disgusting, pathetic, and sad.