French mag. Charlie Hebdo--12 killed, many injured in attack

[Napkiraly]

AQ are the ones who committed it.

I assumed ISIS would commit such an act. To the untrained observer it is very easy to blur the lines between ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah. It is even scarier that it is so easy to confuse Islamic Extremist with Islam itself.

AQ did. And Hezbollah is mainly fixated on shenanigans in the Middle East and Israeli targets around the world. I mean the the leader of Hezbollah said the people who committed the Charlie Hebdo attack are more offensive to Islam than the cartoons were.

[Alistan]

Iran has condemned the attacks

[Kouralia]

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

The answer is that we can't without sacrificing liberties that are an essential part of our civilization, at least in the West.

[Edgy Opinions]

People keep on forgetting that Islam is considered a Western religion and has influenced the Western Civilization immensely

No, it's regarded an Asian religion (much like Judaism) most prevalent in Asian (as well as Afro-Asian and African) cultures and civilizations, with the exceptions being Turkey, Azerbaijan, the northern slopes of the Caucasus as well as parts of Russia, Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia, and historically Malta, Sicily and Iberia.

[The Conez Imperium]

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

That is the societal cost of having a country that believes in freedom of speech, protection of privacy, unhindered movements, etc.

[Napkiraly]

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

You can't fully protect yourself. Best you can do is mitigate chances of it occurring (through various means) and improving counter response strategies, etc. Lets not forget that terrorism has been a long running issue in Western Europe for a long time now.

[Shilya]

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

Honestly, you can't. You can try to catch the means used in them, or keep tabs on those likely to try, but ultimately, it's impossible to fully guard yourself. If someone crazy and prepared wants to kill people, odds are he's gonna succeed.

What you can do is react in a dignified manner, keep what you stand for and don't give them the success they crave. Part of that success is being so scared of terrorists afterwards that you either give in to their demands, whatever they may be, or undermine your own society.

[-Shie-]

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

That is the societal cost of having a country that believes in freedom of speech, protection of privacy, unhindered movements, etc.

Ideals like that aren't worth 12 civilian casualties.

[Organized States]

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

You can't fully protect yourself. Best you can do is mitigate chances of it occurring (through various means) and improving counter response strategies, etc. Lets not forget that terrorism has been a long running issue in Western Europe for a long time now.

Not to mention the fact that the first Airplane deliberately blown up was in the late 1950s, albeit not an act of terrorism (it was a murder).

[Dain II Ironfoot]

AQ are the ones who committed it.

I assumed ISIS would commit such an act. To the untrained observer it is very easy to blur the lines between ISIS, Al Qaeda, Hezbollah. It is even scarier that it is so easy to confuse Islamic Extremist with Islam itself.

Most likely that it is Al-Qaeda, the two brothers had recieved training in Yemen and they may or may not have been to Syria at some point.
I must say though, there are pretty clear lines between Al-Qaeda, IS and Hezbollah. Its better if you read up on those three and learn what they actually want and do.

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

They can't.

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Interesting: http://www.iranhumanrights.org/2015/01/185-iranian-journalists-condemn-charlie-hebdo/

[Napkiraly]

You can't fully protect yourself. Best you can do is mitigate chances of it occurring (through various means) and improving counter response strategies, etc. Lets not forget that terrorism has been a long running issue in Western Europe for a long time now.

Not to mention the fact that the first Airplane deliberately blown up was in the late 1950s, albeit not an act of terrorism (it was a murder).

And the first group to utilize suicide bombers was the Tamil Tigers iirc.

[Australian rePublic]

People keep on forgetting that Islam is considered a Western religion and has influenced the Western Civilization immensely

No, it's regarded an Asian religion (much like Judaism) most prevalent in Asian (as well as Afro-Asian and African) cultures and civilizations, with the exceptions being Turkey, Azerbaijan, the northern slopes of the Caucasus as well as parts of Russia, Albania, Kosovo, Bosnia, and historically Malta, Sicily and Iberia.

Most of these places are in the Middle East/Asia Minor, which is in Asia, so less exemptions

[Dread Lady Nathicana]

That is the societal cost of having a country that believes in freedom of speech, protection of privacy, unhindered movements, etc.

Ideals like that aren't worth 12 civilian casualties.

Oddly enough, some of those 12 civilians believed they were, and are on record stating as much. The quote about 'rather dying on one's feet than living on one's knees' leaps to mind. Just as a note, there.

[Earl of Sandwich IV]

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

drones

[Jamjai]

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

drones

I don't think having drones shooting in skies of Paris, Berlin, London etc is not really a good idea

[Farnhamia]

drones

I don't think having drones in skies of Paris, Berlin, London etc is not really a good idea

The double negative there makes it seem you think it is a good idea.

[Jamjai]

I don't think having drones in skies of Paris, Berlin, London etc is not really a good idea

The double negative there makes it seem you think it is a good idea.

i don't know what your talking about

[Bezkoshtovnya]

It makes you wonder, how can countries protect themselves against this sort of 'warfare'?

drones

Yeah, drones dropping ordinance in densely populated urban areas is a great idea.

[Equestria and Griffon]

Well,at least we learned drones are bad for shooting people.
(See every USA drone ever)
So,12 were killed,many injured.Thread over!

[Bezkoshtovnya]

The double negative there makes it seem you think it is a good idea.

i don't know what your talking about

You used a double negative in your post, so it sounds like you you said "I don't think not having drones is a good idea".

[Farnhamia]

The double negative there makes it seem you think it is a good idea.

i don't know what your talking about

"I don't think having drones in skies of Paris, Berlin, London etc is not really a good idea" should be either "I think having drones in skies of Paris, Berlin, London etc is not really a good idea" or "I don't think having drones in skies of Paris, Berlin, London etc is really a good idea."

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Well,at least we learned drones are bad for shooting people.
(See every USA drone ever)
So,12 were killed,many injured.Thread over!

I'm guessing you don't realize how impactful this event was.

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Well,at least we learned drones are bad for shooting people.
(See every USA drone ever)
So,12 were killed,many injured.Thread over!

Shhh, some of us are trying to discuss societal implications and hypothetical here, as well as talking about what actions we think suit the problem in question. News is still streaming in. So, keep it down a bit.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

That is the societal cost of having a country that believes in freedom of speech, protection of privacy, unhindered movements, etc.

Ideals like that aren't worth 12 civilian casualties.

And yet those people died BECAUSE they believed in such ideals.