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Postby Krieg-Deathworld » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:34 am

Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:
Krieg-Deathworld wrote:Bruce Lee, because all trans people have something just a bit off with their femininity.

What the fuck does "Bruce Lee" have to do with the question?

Read the original question. It said a person that looks like Bruce lee, but has a vagina.
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:34 am

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Merizoc wrote:Not until you have sex.

I think the gender should be given before kissing, not just as you are getting undressed.

That's up for the two people involved to decide. If you have a partner, ask.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:34 am

Skappola wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Not until you have sex.

I think the gender should be given before kissing, not just as you are getting undressed.


If you have a problem with it, ask.
Why should someone expect you to be furious with them for their blood type? It's unreasonable. Sure, you're entitled to your preferences, but expecting others to magically know them and list off the ones they don't meet if they happen not to?
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:34 am

Olthar wrote:

It's a trick question, right? The answer is D: all of the above?


I was going to say the one on the far right, but after looking at the pic again, it defintily is a trick question.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

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Postby Esternial » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:34 am

Skappola wrote:
Merizoc wrote:Not until you have sex.

I think the gender should be given before kissing, not just as you are getting undressed.

If you didn't notice whilst kissing and before getting undressed, that's largely your own fault. You felt sexually attracted enough to kiss the person and consider actually undressing.

Backing out when you see the penis isn't an issue, but at least don't pretend you wouldn't have churned that butter if that penis was a vagina.

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Postby Earl of Sandwich IV » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:35 am

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Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:yea, sorry to burst your bubble... they're not straight....

Why not? A lot of people experiment with their sexuality, and in my opinion, they should. If a straight man makes out with another man and decides that he really wasn't that into it and would much rather make out with a woman, then how is he any less straight than a man who hasn't made out with a guy? If anything, the experience has only affirmed his sexuality.

Even the thought of making out with other men disgusts someone who's straight. Just like I don't have to fuck an animal to find out if 'I may be into bestiality'. It just disgusting and I know it.

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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:36 am

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Merizoc wrote:Not until you have sex.

I think the gender should be given before kissing, not just as you are getting undressed.

Actually now that I think about it, if a MtF person told me before I kissed her she used to be a dude I'd be more attracted than if they said nothing until the last minute before sex...anyone got some theories as to what's up with that?
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Postby Greater-London » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:36 am

Krieg-Deathworld wrote:See no. Mention things that are fucking relevant. Don't tell them that you were fucking 5th Grade Treasurer, but do tell them if you like feet. Having a dick is something that's fucking relevant.


It is relevant I agree. HOWEVER the point at which you have to tell someone you have one is quite late in the game, if your going to have sex with someone then yes. If your going to be in a long term relationship with someone then again yes. If its a drunken kiss of a night out, a meal ETC then you don't have to worry.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:36 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Skappola wrote:I think the gender should be given before kissing, not just as you are getting undressed.


If you have a problem with it, ask.
Why should someone expect you to be furious with them for their blood type? It's unreasonable. Sure, you're entitled to your preferences, but expecting others to magically know them and list off the ones they don't meet if they happen not to?
Ridiculous.


I'm guessing if you're going out with someone and you're about to have sex, you should've known by then that they were transgendered. It's pretty important.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Skappola » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:36 am

Esternial wrote:
Skappola wrote:I think the gender should be given before kissing, not just as you are getting undressed.

If you didn't notice whilst kissing and before getting undressed, that's largely your own fault. You felt sexually attracted enough to kiss the person and consider actually undressing.

Backing out when you see the penis isn't an issue, but at least don't pretend you wouldn't have churned that butter if that penis was a vagina.

Yes, but the realization that you had made out with a man is... jarring, to say the least.
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Postby Benuty » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:36 am

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Burleson 2 wrote:The gentlemanly thing to do is to pay for the woman's meal.

Fuck gentlemanliness.

Define "man".

Besides I believe the correct term is gentleperson.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:37 am

Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Why not? A lot of people experiment with their sexuality, and in my opinion, they should. If a straight man makes out with another man and decides that he really wasn't that into it and would much rather make out with a woman, then how is he any less straight than a man who hasn't made out with a guy? If anything, the experience has only affirmed his sexuality.

Even the thought of making out with other men disgusts someone who's straight. Just like I don't have to fuck an animal to find out if 'I may be into bestiality'. It just disgusting and I know it.

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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:37 am

Skappola wrote:
Esternial wrote:If you didn't notice whilst kissing and before getting undressed, that's largely your own fault. You felt sexually attracted enough to kiss the person and consider actually undressing.

Backing out when you see the penis isn't an issue, but at least don't pretend you wouldn't have churned that butter if that penis was a vagina.

Yes, but the realization that you had made out with a man is... jarring, to say the least.

Except you haven't made out with a man.

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Postby Krieg-Deathworld » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:37 am

Merizoc wrote:
Krieg-Deathworld wrote:See no. Mention things that are fucking relevant. Don't tell them that you were fucking 5th Grade Treasurer, but do tell them if you like feet. Having a dick is something that's fucking relevant.

Not until you have sex.

Okay fuck you. Honestly. Go fuck yourself. Unless sex is on the first date, no. Someone shouldn't have to date you for 9 weeks before you tell them that they have to dress up as a fucking Muppet for them to have sex.
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Postby Immoren » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:37 am

Burleson 2 wrote:
Stagnant Axon Terminal wrote:Are you seriously going to become mentally unstable by sitting and having dinner with a transwoman?

I'd rather not waste my money on buying food for a man.


You've never bought food for your male acquaintances?
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:38 am

Skappola wrote:
Esternial wrote:If you didn't notice whilst kissing and before getting undressed, that's largely your own fault. You felt sexually attracted enough to kiss the person and consider actually undressing.

Backing out when you see the penis isn't an issue, but at least don't pretend you wouldn't have churned that butter if that penis was a vagina.

Yes, but the realization that you had made out with a man is... jarring, to say the least.


Not really. Waking up naked in bed with one after a night on the sauce, now that's a bit jarring.

Nothing that can't be fixed with a cup of tea and a bacon butty though.

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Postby Krieg-Deathworld » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:38 am

Greater-London wrote:
Krieg-Deathworld wrote:See no. Mention things that are fucking relevant. Don't tell them that you were fucking 5th Grade Treasurer, but do tell them if you like feet. Having a dick is something that's fucking relevant.


It is relevant I agree. HOWEVER the point at which you have to tell someone you have one is quite late in the game, if your going to have sex with someone then yes. If your going to be in a long term relationship with someone then again yes. If its a drunken kiss of a night out, a meal ETC then you don't have to worry.

Exactly.
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Postby Greater Weselton » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:38 am

This is over the top political correctness.
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Postby Esternial » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:38 am

Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Why not? A lot of people experiment with their sexuality, and in my opinion, they should. If a straight man makes out with another man and decides that he really wasn't that into it and would much rather make out with a woman, then how is he any less straight than a man who hasn't made out with a guy? If anything, the experience has only affirmed his sexuality.

Even the thought of making out with other men disgusts someone who's straight. Just like I don't have to fuck an animal to find out if 'I may be into bestiality'. It just disgusting and I know it.

What about making out with someone you don't know is or once was a biological male? Solely the fact of making out. I'm not talking about moving in with them and marrying the person.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:38 am

Pandeeria wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
If you have a problem with it, ask.
Why should someone expect you to be furious with them for their blood type? It's unreasonable. Sure, you're entitled to your preferences, but expecting others to magically know them and list off the ones they don't meet if they happen not to?
Ridiculous.


I'm guessing if you're going out with someone and you're about to have sex, you should've known by then that they were transgendered. It's pretty important.


Not particularly.
But if I thought it was important i'd bring it up, is the point.
If they were trans and didnt think it was important either, then there isn't much of an issue. If they think it's important, they'll bring it up and i'll go "Oh ok."
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Postby Skappola » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:39 am

Merizoc wrote:
Skappola wrote:I think the gender should be given before kissing, not just as you are getting undressed.

That's up for the two people involved to decide. If you have a partner, ask.

I'm not going to ask random people will dresses on whether they are a woman. That's the kind of information which should be out in the open before any sort of romantic or sexual relations begin.
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Postby Pandeeria » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:39 am

Greater Weselton wrote:This is over the top political correctness.


That's what I don't like about Sweden. They overdo then whole politically correct deal.
Lavochkin wrote:Never got why educated people support communism.

In capitalism, you pretty much have a 50/50 chance of being rich or poor. In communism, it's 1/99. What makes people think they have the luck/skill to become the 1% if they can't even succeed in a 50/50 society???

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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:39 am

Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Why not? A lot of people experiment with their sexuality, and in my opinion, they should. If a straight man makes out with another man and decides that he really wasn't that into it and would much rather make out with a woman, then how is he any less straight than a man who hasn't made out with a guy? If anything, the experience has only affirmed his sexuality.

Even the thought of making out with other men disgusts someone who's straight. Just like I don't have to fuck an animal to find out if 'I may be into bestiality'. It just disgusting and I know it.

Actually, there are straight men out there who have little to no quarrels with homosexuals or preforming homosexual acts themselves. And the comparison is so unorthodox it's unnecessary.
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Postby Stagnant Axon Terminal » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:39 am

Earl of Sandwich IV wrote:
Nature-Spirits wrote:Why not? A lot of people experiment with their sexuality, and in my opinion, they should. If a straight man makes out with another man and decides that he really wasn't that into it and would much rather make out with a woman, then how is he any less straight than a man who hasn't made out with a guy? If anything, the experience has only affirmed his sexuality.

Even the thought of making out with other men disgusts someone who's straight. Just like I don't have to fuck an animal to find out if 'I may be into bestiality'. It just disgusting and I know it.

My boyfriend is straight, but he's even admitted that there are a few men he would kiss if they asked him to.
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Postby Nuwe Suid Afrika » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:40 am

Benuty wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Fuck gentlemanliness.

Define "man".

Besides I believe the correct term is gentleperson.


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If the term is relative to a man, then its gentleman. If its relative to a woman, then its a gentlewoman.
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