'PEGIDA' Anti-Islam protests

[Southern Hampshire]

I see both sides' points.

However, I don't see why can't this be changed via policy without actually kicking out immigrants.

One would argue that you're not really capable of seeing both sides' points then.

na EDL is racist

PEGIDA isn't

Actually...

Der Berliner Ableger der islamfeindlichen Pegida-Bewegung wird nach Einschätzung des Verfassungsschutzes von Rechtsextremen unterwandert. "Das, was wir hier in Berlin haben, sind vor allen Dingen durchaus auch rechtsextremistisch gesinnte Personen, die versuchen, ein Thema zu okkupieren und Unzufriedenheit von Bürgern zu nutzen", sagte Verfassungsschutz-Chef Bernd Palenda am Dienstag im Inforadio des rbb.

The Berliner branch of the islamophobic PEGIDA-movement is being infiltrated by far-right extremists according to the Verfassungsschutz. "That which we have here in Berlin are first and foremost persons of a far-right extremist bent that are attempting to occupy a topic and to use dissatisfaction of citizens," said the head of the Verfassungsschutz Bernd Palenda on tuesday in the Inforadio of the rbb.

No one denies that PEGIDA has extremists.

So does CDU, Conservatives and Republicans.

Calling PEGIDA itself a fascist far-right group is wrong in itself.

The concept of PEGIDA is not racist. Some small percentages of the people within may be. But they're reflected in other movements and political parties so it's not something PEGIDA alone should be called out for.

[Fascistic Republic Of Canada]

Islam is a threat to Western Civilization and has to be stopped at all cost. Muslims are infiltrating Europe and they need to be excised.

[Imperializt Russia]

I think we need a "Islam in Europe Megathread".

No, because all it does is legitimise the retarded view that Islam in Europe is somehow problematic.
Though the mods were willing the drop the ball on "why feminism is wrong", so I wouldn't be surprised.

Don't you already have resident terrorist-affiliated organizations such as the EDL?

na EDL is racist

PEGIDA isn't

The leader of the EDL resigned over racism in the group.

On the scale of claims of "I'm not racist but", PEGIDA is exactly as racist as the EDL.

As do most Muslims in Europe. The thing is both groups argue against having their religion mocked. Quit trying to derail the topic and grow up

How many fucking times in two threads will you demand me to "grow up"? Show me an instance of 12 people dying in America over what a newspaper chooses to publish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Times_bombing
Have 21.

[Ethel mermania]

I think we need a "Islam in Europe Megathread".

No, because all it does is legitimise the retarded view that Islam in Europe is somehow problematic.
Though the mods were willing the drop the ball on "why feminism is wrong", so I wouldn't be surprised.

na EDL is racist

PEGIDA isn't

The leader of the EDL resigned over racism in the group.

On the scale of claims of "I'm not racist but", PEGIDA is exactly as racist as the EDL.

How many fucking times in two threads will you demand me to "grow up"? Show me an instance of 12 people dying in America over what a newspaper chooses to publish.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Los_Angeles_Times_bombing
Have 21.

The 12 dead folks in Paris might think islam in Europe is a problem, if they weren't killed by folks screaming allah akbar

[Olerand]

The 12 dead folks in Paris might think islam in Europe is a problem, if they weren't killed by folks screaming allah akbar

I am more concerned about the passive acceptance of very conservative, or radical, Islamic positions by the Islamic public in Europe.

These idiots, 2, 3, 5 at a time, can't change laws. They can't bring the Republic to its knees.

The others can.

[Romalae]

Islam is a threat to Western Civilization and has to be stopped at all cost. Muslims are infiltrating Europe and they need to be excised.

When have I heard this kind of rhetoric before...

[Ethel mermania]

The 12 dead folks in Paris might think islam in Europe is a problem, if they weren't killed by folks screaming allah akbar

I am more concerned about the passive acceptance of very conservative, or radical, Islamic positions by the Islamic public in Europe.

These idiots, 2, 3, 5 at a time, can't change laws. They can't bring the Republic to its knees.

The others can.

The widespread acceptance of these ideas, is what leads to the fellows with the bombs. I believe they are interrelated.

[The Grim Reaper]

Islam is a threat to Western Civilization and has to be stopped at all cost. Muslims are infiltrating Europe and they need to be excised.

When have I heard this kind of rhetoric before...

The Crusades?

[Wombocombo]

When have I heard this kind of rhetoric before...

The Crusades?

No...we aren't taking Israel just yet.

[Laerod]

No one denies that PEGIDA has extremists.

So does CDU, Conservatives and Republicans.

Calling PEGIDA itself a fascist far-right group is wrong in itself.

The concept of PEGIDA is not racist. Some small percentages of the people within may be. But they're reflected in other movements and political parties so it's not something PEGIDA alone should be called out for.

Funny, I don't recall calling PEGIDA fascist. Racist, anti-democratic, etc. But not fascist. The sentiment of these people is of course racist. If there's more people out on the street in Dresden protesting against a "flood" of muslims than there actually are muslims in all of Saxony, then they're racists, plain and simple.

[Laerod]

I am more concerned about the passive acceptance of very conservative, or radical, Islamic positions by the Islamic public in Europe.

These idiots, 2, 3, 5 at a time, can't change laws. They can't bring the Republic to its knees.

The others can.

The widespread acceptance of these ideas, is what leads to the fellows with the bombs. I believe they are interrelated.

So how widespread is terrorism among American conservatives then since several of them are inclined to murdering gynacologists or bombing clinics?

[Imperializt Russia]

The widespread acceptance of these ideas, is what leads to the fellows with the bombs. I believe they are interrelated.

So how widespread is terrorism among American conservatives then since several of them are inclined to murdering gynacologists or bombing clinics?

Relatively widespread.

The Global Terror Index report shows a large number of attacks in the US between 2000 and 2013, but doesn't actually explain what they were.

[Olerand]

The widespread acceptance of these ideas, is what leads to the fellows with the bombs. I believe they are interrelated.

So how widespread is terrorism among American conservatives then since several of them are inclined to murdering gynacologists or bombing clinics?

I haven't seen polls of their opinion on the subject, so I for one cannot say. Polls on European Muslims' acceptance of homosexuality, or lack thereof, and freedom of expression have already been provided.

[Southern Hampshire]

No one denies that PEGIDA has extremists.

So does CDU, Conservatives and Republicans.

Calling PEGIDA itself a fascist far-right group is wrong in itself.

The concept of PEGIDA is not racist. Some small percentages of the people within may be. But they're reflected in other movements and political parties so it's not something PEGIDA alone should be called out for.

Funny, I don't recall calling PEGIDA fascist. Racist, anti-democratic, etc. But not fascist. The sentiment of these people is of course racist. If there's more people out on the street in Dresden protesting against a "flood" of muslims than there actually are muslims in all of Saxony, then they're racists, plain and simple.

Why were people protesting against Israelis in London in 2014?

There were more protesters against Israeli people than there are Israelis in London.

Why were people protesting against Nazis in London in 1938?

There were more protesters against Nazis than there were Nazis in the UK.

Why were people protesting against Wall Street in 2011?

There were more protesters against Wall Street than there were rich people in all of America.

Your argument is flawed, stupid and void.

[Laerod]

Funny, I don't recall calling PEGIDA fascist. Racist, anti-democratic, etc. But not fascist. The sentiment of these people is of course racist. If there's more people out on the street in Dresden protesting against a "flood" of muslims than there actually are muslims in all of Saxony, then they're racists, plain and simple.

Why were people protesting against Israelis in London in 2014?

There were more protesters against Israeli people than there are Israelis in London.

Why were people protesting against Nazis in London in 1938?

There were more protesters against Nazis than there were Nazis in London.

Why were people protesting against Wall Street in 2011?

There were more protesters against Wall Street than there were rich people in New York.

Your argument is flawed, stupid and void.

Oh, man. XD

[Imperializt Russia]

Funny, I don't recall calling PEGIDA fascist. Racist, anti-democratic, etc. But not fascist. The sentiment of these people is of course racist. If there's more people out on the street in Dresden protesting against a "flood" of muslims than there actually are muslims in all of Saxony, then they're racists, plain and simple.

Why were people protesting against Israelis in London in 2014?

There were more protesters against Israeli people than there are Israelis in London.

Why were people protesting against Nazis in London in 1938?

There were more protesters against Nazis than there were Nazis in the UK.

Why were people protesting against Wall Street in 2011?

There were more protesters against Wall Street than there were rich people in all of America.

Your argument is flawed, stupid and void.

Only because you haven't understood it.

[Ethel mermania]

The widespread acceptance of these ideas, is what leads to the fellows with the bombs. I believe they are interrelated.

So how widespread is terrorism among American conservatives then since several of them are inclined to murdering gynacologists or bombing clinics?

When was the last abortion Clinic bombed? 2012, When was the last Muslim terror attack? That would be yesterday. Though honestly what happens by christians has nothing to do with what happens with muslims, neither act of terror rationalizes the other.

[Laerod]

So how widespread is terrorism among American conservatives then since several of them are inclined to murdering gynacologists or bombing clinics?

When was the last abortion Clinic bombed? 2012, When was the last Muslim terror attack? That would be yesterday. Though honestly what happens by christians has nothing to do with what happens with muslims, neither act of terror rationalizes the other.

Double standard is double. If you want to argue that these terror attacks are a product of islam then conversely the Republican party and its members are equally culpable for murders committed in the name of their so-called "family values". You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.

[Imperializt Russia]

So how widespread is terrorism among American conservatives then since several of them are inclined to murdering gynacologists or bombing clinics?

When was the last abortion Clinic bombed? 2012, When was the last Muslim terror attack? That would be yesterday. Though honestly what happens by christians has nothing to do with what happens with muslims, neither act of terror rationalizes the other.

In America, the last vaguely "Islamic" terror attack happened at the end of October, with a Conservative terror attack occurring one month later, ie, more recently.
The four previous attacks, according to this list, were anti-government assaults and definitely unrelated to Islamic teachings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010.E2.80.93present

[The Lotophagi]

So how widespread is terrorism among American conservatives then since several of them are inclined to murdering gynacologists or bombing clinics?

When was the last abortion Clinic bombed? 2012, When was the last Muslim terror attack? That would be yesterday. Though honestly what happens by christians has nothing to do with what happens with muslims, neither act of terror rationalizes the other.

There was an NAACP office bombed yesterday that police say was likely politically-motivated.

[Ethel mermania]

When was the last abortion Clinic bombed? 2012, When was the last Muslim terror attack? That would be yesterday. Though honestly what happens by christians has nothing to do with what happens with muslims, neither act of terror rationalizes the other.

Double standard is double. If you want to argue that these terror attacks are a product of islam then conversely the Republican party and its members are equally culpable for murders committed in the name of their so-called "family values". You don't get to have your cake and eat it too.

1. The volume is incomparable. AGAIN the last abortion Clinic was bombed in 2012. How many died? 0. When is the last Muslim attack, that would be yesterday. How many died?

2. This thread is about islamaphobia, not christians. Wanna talk about evil xtians, start a thread.

[Ethel mermania]

When was the last abortion Clinic bombed? 2012, When was the last Muslim terror attack? That would be yesterday. Though honestly what happens by christians has nothing to do with what happens with muslims, neither act of terror rationalizes the other.

In America, the last vaguely "Islamic" terror attack happened at the end of October, with a Conservative terror attack occurring one month later, ie, more recently.
The four previous attacks, according to this list, were anti-government assaults and definitely unrelated to Islamic teachings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010.E2.80.93present

This thread is about europe.

[Ethel mermania]

When was the last abortion Clinic bombed? 2012, When was the last Muslim terror attack? That would be yesterday. Though honestly what happens by christians has nothing to do with what happens with muslims, neither act of terror rationalizes the other.

There was an NAACP office bombed yesterday that police say was likely politically-motivated.

The article says the police are still not sure who did it and why. Again the thread is about islamaphobia in europe. American stupidity has nothing to do with the topic.

[Imperializt Russia]

In America, the last vaguely "Islamic" terror attack happened at the end of October, with a Conservative terror attack occurring one month later, ie, more recently.
The four previous attacks, according to this list, were anti-government assaults and definitely unrelated to Islamic teachings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism_in_the_United_States#2010.E2.80.93present

This thread is about europe.

It is. It's about racist morons in Europe, and by extension why racist morons are moronic.

[Olerand]

This thread is about europe.

It is. It's about racist morons in Europe, and by extension why racist morons are moronic.

Islam is not a race.