'PEGIDA' Anti-Islam protests

[Kantona]

When some liberal dude claimed that 'only' 10% of French muslims are radical, pro-sharia type of muslims, it was still scary.

Even if I believed such a claim, it still means that tens of thousands Bin Ladens can walk all over France. Just France alone.

Yes, and not counting also Muslims who are sympathising with ISIS but wont act. Thoose are even more than 10%.

[Imperializt Russia]

But it's not anything to do with Islam, because white people do those things too.

You're not a Muslim, so you find their religion something to blame.

Wut? white people are having its white patrol?

(1.)I am blaming Islam for the reason that the only difficult immigrants in the Netherlands are Turks and Marrocans. So, what do two have in common but not with peacefull immigrants? It is islam.

(2.)Than I look on wiki the 10 deadliest ongoing conflicts, and 8 of them invovles islam.

So (1.) + (2.) = islam is to blame.

Wow, that's shit reasoning.

[Socialist Czechia]

When some liberal dude claimed that 'only' 10% of French muslims are radical, pro-sharia type of muslims, it was still scary.

Even if I believed such a claim, it still means that tens of thousands Bin Ladens can walk all over France. Just France alone.

Yes, and not counting also Muslims who are sympathising with ISIS but wont act. Thoose are even more than 10%.

I hope it's still better in Germany, since I assume Turks are less friendly towards radical stuff than Afghanis or Algierians.

[Southern Hampshire]

who wants to organize a pegida protest in the UK

[Arcanda]

Fearmongers.If every Muslim living in Europe was an extremist, I bet half of nationstates would already speak Arabic by now.
I know some Muslim people where I live in France.None are extremists.

[Laerod]

who wants to organize a pegida protest in the UK

Don't you already have resident terrorist-affiliated organizations such as the EDL?

[Imperializt Russia]

who wants to organize a pegida protest in the UK

Don't you already have resident terrorist-affiliated organizations such as the EDL?

Leader of the EDL quit because of "racist dickheads" or wtte.
I know, right.

[The Alma Mater]

Wut? white people are having its white patrol?

(1.)I am blaming Islam for the reason that the only difficult immigrants in the Netherlands are Turks and Marrocans. So, what do two have in common but not with peacefull immigrants? It is islam.

(2.)Than I look on wiki the 10 deadliest ongoing conflicts, and 8 of them invovles islam.

So (1.) + (2.) = islam is to blame.

Wow, that's shit reasoning.

Ironically it IS the reasoning of the Dutch Moroccans themselves. They themselves say they do their bad stuff because of Islam.

[Olerand]

All democratic nations have the governments they deserve.

Germany's actions towards, and acceptance of immigration of Muslims, whether one views those actions positively or negatively, are the results of their democratic choices. All future social unrest, as the Shariah police in some German cities some months ago, are democratic choices as well.

Germany's demographics are plummeting, and it needs immigrants to man the country. Only history will prove whether immigration without integration is the right choice for Germany.

[Autonomous Titoists]

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/1/pegida-germany-immigration.html

1 in 8 Germans would join anti-Muslim marches. And only 2/3's believe that the idea of Islamization is exaggerated. How wonderful. So much for your tolerant reputation, Germany.

I know its quite sad but the strange thing is that the PEGIDA is popular in eastern Germany but eastern German states do not have many immigrants.
In fact only 0,1% of the people in Saxony are muslim.

Britain has 5% Muslim population the largest in Europe. Most irrational hatred of minority's the leading oppressor almost has no contact or a negligible amount of contact with the group they are oppressing. It's similar to the elitist whites view of blacks after the Rodney King riots.

[Baltenstein]

I know its quite sad but the strange thing is that the PEGIDA is popular in eastern Germany but eastern German states do not have many immigrants.
In fact only 0,1% of the people in Saxony are muslim.

Britain has 5% Muslim population the largest in Europe. Most irrational hatred of minority's the leading oppressor almost has no contact or a negligible amount of contact with the group they are oppressing. It's similar to the elitist whites view of blacks after the Rodney King riots.

Excluding Turkey and Russia, the largest Muslim population in Europe is that of France with some 6-7 million Muslims.

EDIT:

Oh, no...you're not Manisdog, aren't you?

[Imperializt Russia]

Britain has 5% Muslim population the largest in Europe. Most irrational hatred of minority's the leading oppressor almost has no contact or a negligible amount of contact with the group they are oppressing. It's similar to the elitist whites view of blacks after the Rodney King riots.

Excluding Turkey and Russia, the largest Muslim population in Europe is that of France with some 6-7 million Muslims.

EDIT:

Oh, no...you're not Manisdog, aren't you?

Pretty sure the account age predates Manis.
It's a perfectly moderate opinion compared with Manis. In fact, it's reasonable.

[Baltenstein]

Excluding Turkey and Russia, the largest Muslim population in Europe is that of France with some 6-7 million Muslims.

EDIT:

Oh, no...you're not Manisdog, aren't you?

Pretty sure the account age predates Manis.
It's a perfectly moderate opinion compared with Manis. In fact, it's reasonable.

The flag and the fact that he started picking on Britain in a Germany-related thread kinda threw me off for a second.

[Laerod]

Excluding Turkey and Russia, the largest Muslim population in Europe is that of France with some 6-7 million Muslims.

EDIT:

Oh, no...you're not Manisdog, aren't you?

Pretty sure the account age predates Manis.
It's a perfectly moderate opinion compared with Manis. In fact, it's reasonable.

Also the sentences end in periods rather than commas.

[Geilinor]

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/1/pegida-germany-immigration.html

1 in 8 Germans would join anti-Muslim marches. And only 2/3's believe that the idea of Islamization is exaggerated. How wonderful. So much for your tolerant reputation, Germany.

The marches will only become more popular with the attack in France.

[Imperializt Russia]

Pretty sure the account age predates Manis.
It's a perfectly moderate opinion compared with Manis. In fact, it's reasonable.

The flag and the fact that he started picking on Britain in a Germany-related thread kinda threw me off for a second.

I wouldn't say he was "picking on" Britain. It was just an example he drew. Many people use that flag, it's an RL flag in the game.

Pretty sure the account age predates Manis.
It's a perfectly moderate opinion compared with Manis. In fact, it's reasonable.

Also the sentences end in periods rather than commas.

I type like that.

[Saiwania]

Germany's demographics are plummeting, and it needs immigrants to man the country. Only history will prove whether immigration without integration is the right choice for Germany.

No it doesn't, and any labor shortages are going to be resolved with automation going forward anyways. It is really only slightly below where Russia is but still has higher fertility than South Korea.

[Laerod]

Germany's demographics are plummeting, and it needs immigrants to man the country. Only history will prove whether immigration without integration is the right choice for Germany.

No it doesn't, and any labor shortages are going to be resolved with automation going forward anyways. It is really only slightly below where Russia is but still has higher fertility than South Korea.

You really shouldn't comment on things you don't know enough about.

[Martean]

http://america.aljazeera.com/articles/2015/1/1/pegida-germany-immigration.html

1 in 8 Germans would join anti-Muslim marches. And only 2/3's believe that the idea of Islamization is exaggerated. How wonderful. So much for your tolerant reputation, Germany.

I see them as really good percentages, indeed.

sure, it could be better, but sn overwhelming majority of Germans (between 2/3 and 7/8) seem they still use their brain. You would be very surprised if this poll was done in other, more xenophobic, countries.

[Saiwania]

You really shouldn't comment on things you don't know enough about.

The fact is that when the jobs that the immigrants are brought in for become obsolete, they will stop being an asset and instead become a liability. Why bother bringing them in?

[Imperializt Russia]

You really shouldn't comment on things you don't know enough about.

The fact is that when the jobs that the immigrants are brought in for become obsolete, they will stop being an asset and instead become a liability. Why bother bringing them in?

Why bother allow natives to be born, since there'll be fewer menial tasks for them to do either.

[Laerod]

You really shouldn't comment on things you don't know enough about.

The fact is that when the jobs that the immigrants are brought in for become obsolete, they will stop being an asset and instead become a liability. Why bother bringing them in?

This is exactly why I'm accusing you of not knowing enough about the topic. Automation won't remove the jobs the German economy is currently experiencing a shortage of because it can't. What's missing at the moment are people to fill highly qualified positions, such as engineers. Lower skill jobs are causing employers to despair as well because of the deficiencies a lot of youths have in Germany regarding math, among other things. Fat chance finding a machine that'll do better at that and fulfill whatever mechanical requirements that particular job entails.

Your fundamental misunderstanding of the labor shortages indicates that your opinion on the matter is not worth a damn.

[Olerand]

Germany's demographics are plummeting, and it needs immigrants to man the country. Only history will prove whether immigration without integration is the right choice for Germany.

No it doesn't, and any labor shortages are going to be resolved with automation going forward anyways. It is really only slightly below where Russia is but still has higher fertility than South Korea.

It certainly does. Automation doesn't cover the net 150,000 deaths Germany has on a good year.

[Saiwania]

This is exactly why I'm accusing you of not knowing enough about the topic. Automation won't remove the jobs the German economy is currently experiencing a shortage of because it can't. What's missing at the moment are people to fill highly qualified positions, such as engineers. Lower skill jobs are causing employers to despair as well because of the deficiencies a lot of youths have in Germany regarding math, among other things. Fat chance finding a machine that'll do better at that and fulfill whatever mechanical requirements that particular job entails.

Your fundamental misunderstanding of the labor shortages indicates that your opinion on the matter is not worth a damn.

The people of Germany are capable of fulfilling these jobs, but the fact is that the private sector wants to be able to pay lower wages than it would be possible in hiring local labor, lets admit that this is the real reason why immigrants are wanted. I really doubt that the German education system is inferior to that of whichever countries the immigrants come from. If Germans can't do math, but German companies believe that people from less developed countries can, then they are practically admitting that Germany's education is inferior, or the German engineers simply cost too much money because of unionization. Which do you think it is?

[Laerod]

This is exactly why I'm accusing you of not knowing enough about the topic. Automation won't remove the jobs the German economy is currently experiencing a shortage of because it can't. What's missing at the moment are people to fill highly qualified positions, such as engineers. Lower skill jobs are causing employers to despair as well because of the deficiencies a lot of youths have in Germany regarding math, among other things. Fat chance finding a machine that'll do better at that and fulfill whatever mechanical requirements that particular job entails.

Your fundamental misunderstanding of the labor shortages indicates that your opinion on the matter is not worth a damn.

The people of Germany are capable of fulfilling these jobs, but the fact is that the private sector wants to be able to pay lower wages than it would be possible in hiring local labor, lets admit that this is the real reason why immigrants are wanted. I really doubt that the German education system is inferior to that of whichever countries the immigrants come from. If Germans can't do math, but German companies believe that people from less developed countries can, then they are practically admitting that Germany's education is either inferior, or the German engineers simply cost too much money because of unionization.

Like I said, the flaws in your understanding are fundamental in nature.