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Postby Glaesigelureyjar » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:14 pm

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So, if you're Muslim No Free Speech For You even if you were duly elected? Nice.


If Free speech in Islamic means fucking up anything that collaborates with Jews and rioting causing thousands of pounds of damage and destroying livelihoods, then yes, suppress their fucking 'free speech'


Are honestly basing your opinion of 1.6 billion Muslim people around the world on the actions of a few idiots who misinterpreted the Quran?
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:14 pm

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The fuck are you smoking?


Jesus was a peaceful person, Muhammed was far from it

hence people tend to follow their prophets examples, hence islam is more violent, hence you have the current situation were in hence why were on this forum right now.


Yes, let's conveniently ignore that Jesus of Nazareth was crucified as a threat to the state of Rome.
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:15 pm

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Checked out your suggestion and looked for British Muslim politicians. Found Shabana Mahmood, a Labour MP in a muslim-majority area. In August 2014 she organised a boycott against Israel and trashed a Tesco in Birmingham along with fellow muslims in aisles with Israeli goods or firms that produce there (Coca Cola etc)

No, I want those kind od 'politicians' immediately deported back to the hellhole their ancestors came from. It is ABHORRENT that they are in public duty paid by taxes and these are the things they do.

Thank you for opening my eyes. If this is what is meant to come out of muslim-majority electorates as well as that numbnut Galloway in Bradford West, another muslim majority srea, then I say no to them.


First of all, thank you so much for not answering my post telling you the percentage of Christians who support a theocracy. I feel so touched to know that you'll never admit that you're wrong. Thank you.

Secondly, is she a threat to free speech? Does she represent all Islamic politicians? No, move on.


I never answered your first post because I'm on slow net and didn't load because of your link. To answer your question, I have at no point encouraged practising-Christianity. But it is a fact that Christians are less susceptible.

Do they represent muslim politicians? Considering there's only 5 of them and 2 of them are complete dicks making a percentage of 40%, I would argue YES.
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Postby The Wolven League » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:15 pm

Gauthier wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Jesus was a peaceful person, Muhammed was far from it

hence people tend to follow their prophets examples, hence islam is more violent, hence you have the current situation were in hence why were on this forum right now.


Yes, let's conveniently ignore that Jesus of Nazareth was crucified as a threat to the state of Rome.

Jesus? Peaceful? Hahhahahaha no. He convinced the people of Judea to try and revolt against the Romans, hence why he was crucified.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:16 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
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then school me and tell me what kind of person muhammed was.


A prophet who said some bad things. The same goes for Jesus, he wasn't always "peaceful." Regardless, many followers of both religions don't take their prophets literally.


So muhammed only said a few bad things(well regardless there words carry infinite weight) and per say what did jesus say that was not peaceful?

and i beg to differ because anyone someone makes fun of muhammed the islamic world shits a brick.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:17 pm

Southern Hampshire wrote:
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First of all, thank you so much for not answering my post telling you the percentage of Christians who support a theocracy. I feel so touched to know that you'll never admit that you're wrong. Thank you.

Secondly, is she a threat to free speech? Does she represent all Islamic politicians? No, move on.


I never answered your first post because I'm on slow net and didn't load because of your link. To answer your question, I have at no point encouraged practising-Christianity. But it is a fact that Christians are less susceptible.

Do they represent muslim politicians? Considering there's only 5 of them and 2 of them are complete dicks making a percentage of 40%, I would argue YES.


There are more than 5 Muslim politicians. Because Muslim politicians aren't just found in the UK. Also, 34% seems like a pretty high number for Christians. Less susceptible my ass.

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Postby The Wolven League » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:17 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
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A prophet who said some bad things. The same goes for Jesus, he wasn't always "peaceful." Regardless, many followers of both religions don't take their prophets literally.


So muhammed only said a few bad things(well regardless there words carry infinite weight) and per say what did jesus say that was not peaceful?

and i beg to differ because anyone someone makes fun of muhammed the islamic world shits a brick.

Jesus intentionally spread religious unrest, for one.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:17 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
A prophet who said some bad things. The same goes for Jesus, he wasn't always "peaceful." Regardless, many followers of both religions don't take their prophets literally.


So muhammed only said a few bad things(well regardless there words carry infinite weight) and per say what did jesus say that was not peaceful?

and i beg to differ because anyone someone makes fun of muhammed the islamic world shits a brick.


The whole Islamic world shits a brick? Sounds....false.
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:17 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
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If Free speech in Islamic means fucking up anything that collaborates with Jews and rioting causing thousands of pounds of damage and destroying livelihoods, then yes, suppress their dking 'free speech'


Way to be a total hypocrite. You say that Muslims threaten free speech, when you're the real threat to free speech. Bravo, well done. :clap:


I said that?
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:18 pm

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Yes, let's conveniently ignore that Jesus of Nazareth was crucified as a threat to the state of Rome.

Jesus? Peaceful? Hahhahahaha no. He convinced the people of Judea to try and revolt against the Romans, hence why he was crucified.


And this popular idea that Muhammed was playing Genghis Khan when his conflict was pretty much restricted to the ruling powers of Mecca long before it became a Muslim holy shrine.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:19 pm

Southern Hampshire wrote:
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Way to be a total hypocrite. You say that Muslims threaten free speech, when you're the real threat to free speech. Bravo, well done. :clap:


I said that?


You're whining that Muslims are threatening free speech so their free speech should be crushed. Hypocrisy much?
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Postby The Wolven League » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:19 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Jesus? Peaceful? Hahhahahaha no. He convinced the people of Judea to try and revolt against the Romans, hence why he was crucified.


And this popular idea that Muhammed was playing Genghis Khan when his conflict was pretty much restricted to the ruling powers of Mecca long before it became a Muslim holy shrine.

Indeed. If anything, Jesus did far more "bad" things than Muhammed. At least he didn't start a freaking revolt.
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:20 pm

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I said that?


You're whining that Muslims are threatening free speech?


Quote me.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:21 pm

Southern Hampshire wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
You're whining that Muslims are threatening free speech?


Quote me.


Southern Hampshire wrote:
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So, if you're Muslim No Free Speech For You even if you were duly elected? Nice.


If Free speech in Islamic means fucking up anything that collaborates with Jews and rioting causing thousands of pounds of damage and destroying livelihoods, then yes, suppress their dking 'free speech'


Bonus points for implying Muslims can only express themselves through violence.
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Postby The Wolven League » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:22 pm

Southern Hampshire wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
You're whining that Muslims are threatening free speech?


Quote me.

"If Free speech in Islamic means fucking up anything that collaborates with Jews and rioting causing thousands of pounds of damage and destroying livelihoods, then yes, suppress their dking 'free speech'"
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:22 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:You've yet to show me why. You keep saying it's a threat, but why?


im not going to bother quoting the muslim holy book cause im sure ill be told im "misinterpreting it"


It's a well known fact that the Quran has verses endorsing the death of non-believers.

It's also a well known fact that Jesus said this shit:

"Think not ye that I am come to send peace on earth. I came, not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. A man's enemies will be the members of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross and followers after me is not worthy of me."

In both religion's cases, only fundamentalist nutjobs take these words literally and out of context.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:23 pm

The Wolven League wrote:
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So muhammed only said a few bad things(well regardless there words carry infinite weight) and per say what did jesus say that was not peaceful?

and i beg to differ because anyone someone makes fun of muhammed the islamic world shits a brick.

Jesus intentionally spread religious unrest, for one.


Your dodging did Jesus have an army go around killinng ppl cause last I checked Jesus was at least peaceful and u say Muhammad said only a few bad things are u saying he didn't kill anyone?
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Postby The Wolven League » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:25 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Jesus intentionally spread religious unrest, for one.


Your dodging did Jesus have an army go around killinng ppl cause last I checked Jesus was at least peaceful and u say Muhammad said only a few bad things are u saying he didn't kill anyone?

He didn't have an "army". He simply purposely encouraged people to overthrow the Romans by spreading religious unrest, and was crucified before he could do any real damage. What the Bible says and what history says about Jesus are dramatically different, friend, and I tend to believe history is correct. Far more reliable than an ancient book.
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Postby Glaesigelureyjar » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:26 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
The Wolven League wrote:Jesus intentionally spread religious unrest, for one.


Your dodging did Jesus have an army go around killinng ppl cause last I checked Jesus was at least peaceful and u say Muhammad said only a few bad things are u saying he didn't kill anyone?


Lol
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:29 pm

Glaesigelureyjar wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
Your dodging did Jesus have an army go around killinng ppl cause last I checked Jesus was at least peaceful and u say Muhammad said only a few bad things are u saying he didn't kill anyone?


Lol


well i suppose if you believe jesus is god then sure why not, point still stands that islam is far more violent since their prophet was much more violent.

the islamic world is an intolerant and violent place and the fact that people can't see this is why we have these shootings and bombings. I don't like christianity or islam, but last I checked christianity didn't have armies at it's beck and call.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:29 pm

Eastern Equestria wrote:
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im not going to bother quoting the muslim holy book cause im sure ill be told im "misinterpreting it"


It's a well known fact that the Quran has verses endorsing the death of non-believers.

It's also a well known fact that Jesus said this shit:

"Think not ye that I am come to send peace on earth. I came, not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. A man's enemies will be the members of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross and followers after me is not worthy of me."

In both religion's cases, only fundamentalists nutjobs take these words literally and out of context.


whos to say what is and isn't out of context?
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Postby Eastern Equestria » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:37 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Eastern Equestria wrote:
It's a well known fact that the Quran has verses endorsing the death of non-believers.

It's also a well known fact that Jesus said this shit:

"Think not ye that I am come to send peace on earth. I came, not to send peace, but a sword. For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. A man's enemies will be the members of his own household. He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he that loveth son or daughter more than me, is not worthy of me. And he that taketh not his cross and followers after me is not worthy of me."

In both religion's cases, only fundamentalists nutjobs take these words literally and out of context.


whos to say what is and isn't out of context?


Religious scholars that actually know what they're fucking talking about.

As opposed to extremist Muslims, which are tantamount to people like the WBC and Timothy McVeigh.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:45 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
Glaesigelureyjar wrote:
Lol


well i suppose if you believe jesus is god then sure why not, point still stands that islam is far more violent since their prophet was much more violent.

the islamic world is an intolerant and violent place and the fact that people can't see this is why we have these shootings and bombings. I don't like christianity or islam, but last I checked christianity didn't have armies at it's beck and call.

Anders Behring Brievik killed 89 people despite growing up in Norway, which is not an intolerant or violent place.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:48 pm

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North Calaveras wrote:
well i suppose if you believe jesus is god then sure why not, point still stands that islam is far more violent since their prophet was much more violent.

the islamic world is an intolerant and violent place and the fact that people can't see this is why we have these shootings and bombings. I don't like christianity or islam, but last I checked christianity didn't have armies at it's beck and call.

Anders Behring Brievik killed 89 people despite growing up in Norway, which is not an intolerant or violent place.


And killed them because he wanted to "show" how much a threat Islam was.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Jan 10, 2015 7:57 pm

Geilinor wrote:
North Calaveras wrote:
well i suppose if you believe jesus is god then sure why not, point still stands that islam is far more violent since their prophet was much more violent.

the islamic world is an intolerant and violent place and the fact that people can't see this is why we have these shootings and bombings. I don't like christianity or islam, but last I checked christianity didn't have armies at it's beck and call.

Anders Behring Brievik killed 89 people despite growing up in Norway, which is not an intolerant or violent place.


are anders ideals also supported by world governments and various terrorist organizations? Does he have a large following?
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