'PEGIDA' Anti-Islam protests

[Liberty and Linguistics]

You're right, it's 34%

Furthermore, if Christian extremism is bad, what makes it less bad than Islamic extremism? Is loss of life caused by radical Christianity better than loss of life caused by radical Islam?

the death tolls on both sides are drastically differne't, i mean really it's ridiculous. Niether are better but islam is by far worse perpetrator, especially in the modern era.

Where's the threat to free speech in the West? You've yet to show me such a threat posed by Islamists. Anti Muslim groups on the other hand...

[Geilinor]

Escaping extremism by bringing it over here? sounds more like colonialism. 1% of Christians in the West want a theocracy? heavily doubtful. Even then I am in no way condoning Christian extremism or lack of integration, it's almost as bad as it's Islamic counterpart

You're right, it's 34%

Now I'm honestly scared, those people not only destroy one constitutional principle, but the entire document.

[The Wolven League]

A Christian theocracy? Scary stuff

[North Calaveras]

the death tolls on both sides are drastically differne't, i mean really it's ridiculous. Niether are better but islam is by far worse perpetrator, especially in the modern era.

Where's the threat to free speech in the West? You've yet to show me such a threat posed by Islamists. Anti Muslim groups on the other hand...

it's their ideology that's a threat, just as much as the ideology of nazism would be a threat, just as much as the ideology of absolute monarchism would be a threat.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

A Christian theocracy? Scary stuff

In all fairness, any theocracy, whether Hindu, Christian, or Muslim, is scary.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Where's the threat to free speech in the West? You've yet to show me such a threat posed by Islamists. Anti Muslim groups on the other hand...

it's their ideology that's a threat, just as much as the ideology of nazism would be a threat, just as much as the ideology of absolute monarchism would be a threat.

You've yet to show me why. You keep saying it's a threat, but why?

[The Wolven League]

Where's the threat to free speech in the West? You've yet to show me such a threat posed by Islamists. Anti Muslim groups on the other hand...

it's their ideology that's a threat, just as much as the ideology of nazism would be a threat, just as much as the ideology of absolute monarchism would be a threat.

I'm an absolute monarchist irl. So, I'm a threat to the delicate social balance of the world?

[North Calaveras]

it's their ideology that's a threat, just as much as the ideology of nazism would be a threat, just as much as the ideology of absolute monarchism would be a threat.

I'm an absolute monarchist irl. So, I'm a threat to the delicate social balance of the world?

Not you per se but your ideology is.

(btw im not talking about benevolent monarchism, im refering to ivan the terrible status)

[Glaesigelureyjar]

Escaping extremism by bringing it over here? sounds more like colonialism. 1% of Christians in the West want a theocracy? heavily doubtful. Even then I am in no way condoning Christian extremism or lack of integration, it's almost as bad as it's Islamic counterpart

You're right, it's 34%

Furthermore, if Christian extremism is bad, what makes it less bad than Islamic extremism? Is loss of life caused by radical Christianity better than loss of life caused by radical Islam?

What on earth would be gained by creating a theocracy? It's quite incredible, however, that a massive 34% percent (which is an alarmingly high number considering they want a theocracy) want a Christian Theocracies. Theocracies, historically, have stifled social, medical and scientific progress. Remember a little period in Europe called the Dark Ages? The Church suppressed the heliocentric model for almost 400 years. Imagine how much sooner mariners might have discovered the New World if they understood that the Earth was not the center of the universe. Perhaps if the Church did not consider certain medical treatments for the Black Plague to be unchristian, 2/3 of Europe wouldn't have died.

(Yes, i'm just ranting about theocracies here, my actual opinions on this event are below)

Ok, now that i'm done venting, speaking of radical Christianity, Radical Christianity is just as bad as Islamic Radicalism. It's sad, however, how news networks such as Fox news deliberately avoid reporting on cases of Christian Extremism while paying massive attention over Muslim Radicalism. However, the problem is, Muslim Radicalism is much more prevalent than Christian Radicalism, and since news networks seem to report that Muslim radicalism is spreading faster than Ebola, fear of Muslim radicalism, which can lead to Islamophobia becomes common in the public. So to say the least, although I completely disagree with PEGIDA, it's hard not to understand why some people have a (albeit ignorant and quite frankly, stupid) fear of Islam

[North Calaveras]

it's their ideology that's a threat, just as much as the ideology of nazism would be a threat, just as much as the ideology of absolute monarchism would be a threat.

You've yet to show me why. You keep saying it's a threat, but why?

im not going to bother quoting the muslim holy book cause im sure ill be told im "misinterpreting it"

[Southern Hampshire]

point i was trying to make was that groups who hate the ideals of personal freedom usually are all for protests until they come into power. These groups have an advantage in our nations because they are tolerated and any kind of aggression is pushed aside as fringe.

Alright. Islamic political parties don't hold seats in West Europe. Most Islamist politicians are part of democratic, free parties. Your point is absolute shit.

Checked out your suggestion and looked for British Muslim politicians. Found Shabana Mahmood, a Labour MP in a muslim-majority area. In August 2014 she organised a boycott against Israel and trashed a Tesco in Birmingham along with fellow muslims in aisles with Israeli goods or firms that produce there (Coca Cola etc)

No, I want those kind od 'politicians' immediately deported back to the hellhole their ancestors came from. It is ABHORRENT that they are in public duty paid by taxes and these are the things they do.

Thank you for opening my eyes. If this is what is meant to come out of muslim-majority electorates as well as that numbnut Galloway in Bradford West, another muslim majority srea, then I say no to them.

[The Wolven League]

I'm an absolute monarchist irl. So, I'm a threat to the delicate social balance of the world?

Not you per se but your ideology is.

(btw im not talking about benevolent monarchism, im refering to ivan the terrible status)

Benevolent monarchies are still absolute monarchies (unless, of course, it's a parliamentary monarchy or something, but what I'm saying is that "benevolent monarchies" are not a separate sect of monarchy )

[Liberty and Linguistics]

You've yet to show me why. You keep saying it's a threat, but why?

im not going to bother quoting the muslim holy book cause im sure ill be told im "misinterpreting it"

I'm not going to bother quoting the Christian holy book, since I know that most Christians don't take the Bible literally. The Bible has just as many disgusting verses as the Quran. Thankfully, the percentage of people who take either of these books literally are a mere vocal minority.

[Gauthier]

You've yet to show me why. You keep saying it's a threat, but why?

im not going to bother quoting the muslim holy book cause im sure ill be told im "misinterpreting it"

In case you're not ignoring me like you claim, do you have documented proof of actual Islamic political groups in Europe that are gaining power and getting closer to overturning established government like you keep implying?

[Gauthier]

Alright. Islamic political parties don't hold seats in West Europe. Most Islamist politicians are part of democratic, free parties. Your point is absolute shit.

Checked out your suggestion and looked for British Muslim politicians. Found Shabana Mahmood, a Labour MP in a muslim-majority area. In August 2014 she organised a boycott against Israel and trashed a Tesco in Birmingham along with fellow muslims in aisles with Israeli goods or firms that produce there (Coca Cola etc)

No, I want those kind od 'politicians' immediately deported back to the hellhole their ancestors came from. It is ABHORRENT that they are in public duty paid by taxes and these are the things they do.

Thank you for opening my eyes. If this is what is meant to come out of muslim-majority electorates as well as that numbnut Galloway in Bradford West, another muslim majority srea, then I say no to them.

So, if you're Muslim No Free Speech For You even if you were duly elected? Nice.

[North Calaveras]

im not going to bother quoting the muslim holy book cause im sure ill be told im "misinterpreting it"

I'm not going to bother quoting the Christian holy book, since I know that most Christians don't take the Bible literally. The Bible has just as many disgusting verses as the Quran. Thankfully, the percentage of people who take either of these books literally are a mere vocal minority.

agreed they both have horrible things in them, except yoiu know, the prophet of the bible was a war-mongering maruader who murdered people as a way of life.

that kind of raises the question...role models.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

I'm not going to bother quoting the Christian holy book, since I know that most Christians don't take the Bible literally. The Bible has just as many disgusting verses as the Quran. Thankfully, the percentage of people who take either of these books literally are a mere vocal minority.

agreed they both have horrible things in them, except yoiu know, the prophet of the bible was a war-mongering maruader who murdered people as a way of life.

that kind of raises the question...role models.

The fuck are you smoking?

[North Calaveras]

agreed they both have horrible things in them, except yoiu know, the prophet of the bible was a war-mongering maruader who murdered people as a way of life.

that kind of raises the question...role models.

The fuck are you smoking?

Jesus was a peaceful person, Muhammed was far from it

hence people tend to follow their prophets examples, hence islam is more violent, hence you have the current situation were in hence why were on this forum right now.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Alright. Islamic political parties don't hold seats in West Europe. Most Islamist politicians are part of democratic, free parties. Your point is absolute shit.

Checked out your suggestion and looked for British Muslim politicians. Found Shabana Mahmood, a Labour MP in a muslim-majority area. In August 2014 she organised a boycott against Israel and trashed a Tesco in Birmingham along with fellow muslims in aisles with Israeli goods or firms that produce there (Coca Cola etc)

No, I want those kind od 'politicians' immediately deported back to the hellhole their ancestors came from. It is ABHORRENT that they are in public duty paid by taxes and these are the things they do.

Thank you for opening my eyes. If this is what is meant to come out of muslim-majority electorates as well as that numbnut Galloway in Bradford West, another muslim majority srea, then I say no to them.

First of all, thank you so much for not answering my post telling you the percentage of Christians who support a theocracy. I feel so touched to know that you'll never admit that you're wrong. Thank you.

Secondly, is she a threat to free speech? Does she represent all Islamic politicians? No, move on.

[Southern Hampshire]

Checked out your suggestion and looked for British Muslim politicians. Found Shabana Mahmood, a Labour MP in a muslim-majority area. In August 2014 she organised a boycott against Israel and trashed a Tesco in Birmingham along with fellow muslims in aisles with Israeli goods or firms that produce there (Coca Cola etc)

No, I want those kind od 'politicians' immediately deported back to the hellhole their ancestors came from. It is ABHORRENT that they are in public duty paid by taxes and these are the things they do.

Thank you for opening my eyes. If this is what is meant to come out of muslim-majority electorates as well as that numbnut Galloway in Bradford West, another muslim majority srea, then I say no to them.

So, if you're Muslim No Free Speech For You even if you were duly elected? Nice.

If Free speech in Islamic means fucking up anything that collaborates with Jews and rioting causing thousands of pounds of damage and destroying livelihoods, then yes, suppress their dking 'free speech'

[Liberty and Linguistics]

The fuck are you smoking?

Jesus was a peaceful person, Muhammed was far from it

hence people tend to follow their prophets examples, hence islam is more violent, hence you have the currention situation were in hence why were on this forum right now.

Have you read the Quran, or the Bible for that matter? I've read both, and I have reason to suspect that you haven't.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

So, if you're Muslim No Free Speech For You even if you were duly elected? Nice.

If Free speech in Islamic means fucking up anything that collaborates with Jews and rioting causing thousands of pounds of damage and destroying livelihoods, then yes, suppress their dking 'free speech'

Way to be a total hypocrite. You say that Muslims threaten free speech, when you're the real threat to free speech. Bravo, well done.

[North Calaveras]

Jesus was a peaceful person, Muhammed was far from it

hence people tend to follow their prophets examples, hence islam is more violent, hence you have the currention situation were in hence why were on this forum right now.

Have you read the Quran, or the Bible for that matter? I've read both, and I have reason to suspect that you haven't.

then school me and tell me what kind of person muhammed was.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

Have you read the Quran, or the Bible for that matter? I've read both, and I have reason to suspect that you haven't.

then school me and tell me what kind of person muhammed was.

A prophet who said some bad things. The same goes for Jesus, he wasn't always "peaceful." Regardless, many followers of both religions don't take their prophets literally.

[The Wolven League]

Have you read the Quran, or the Bible for that matter? I've read both, and I have reason to suspect that you haven't.

then school me and tell me what kind of person muhammed was.

He certainly didn't massacre millions as you are suggesting.