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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:11 pm

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Norway's Islamic population is literally 2.5%. Such a protest would be futile and ludicrous.

There's more protesters in Dresden than there are muslims in the entire state. The amount clearly isn't the issue.


The issue is a silly belief that Muslims are jihadi hiveminds resembling something out of Starship Troopers and that letting even one stay would open up a nation to terrorist attacks.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:12 pm

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Please. The only immigration groups like PEGIDA have real gripes about are immigrations from Middle-Eastern/African nations that have Muslim majorities.


You should really stop putting words in other people's mouth. You do it continuously.


Because clearly PEGIDA has also rallied against Jewish, Indian and Asian immigration.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:12 pm

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Clearly we can reduce or eliminate terrorist attacks entirely if we tell every single Muslim in the West that They Don't Belong Here and that they should go over to the Islamic State and join the Caliphate.

Extremism and resistance to people of other religions shouldn't be tolerated is all he said.


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Postby Calimera II » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:13 pm

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Laerod wrote:There's more protesters in Dresden than there are muslims in the entire state. The amount clearly isn't the issue.


The issue is a silly belief that Muslims are jihadi hiveminds resembling something out of Starship Troopers and that letting even one stay would open up a nation to terrorist attacks.


"Because everyone who supports PEGIDA thinks that."

Maybe you should work at the Ministry of Manipulation.

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Postby Geilinor » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:13 pm

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You should really stop putting words in other people's mouth. You do it continuously.


Because clearly PEGIDA has also rallied against Jewish, Indian and Asian immigration.

Most of the immigration to Germany is not from those groups.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:14 pm

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Norway's Islamic population is literally 2.5%. Such a protest would be futile and ludicrous.


And you'd think Norway would remember that Breivik went on a bombing and shooting spree because he didn't want Muslims immigrating there.


I'm sure most of Norway is aware of that. I'm also confident that the vast, silent majority of Norway won't buy into xenophobic populism.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:15 pm

Also, this topic is not about St Lucia...er Gauthier, sorry.
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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:15 pm

Calimera II wrote:For school I had to work in a 'black' neighbourhood at a school, teaching children how to read. And the children were so sweet and nice and it made me realise that they have the opportunity to become doctors, pilots, teachers etc. So I honestly think that the government should help these children even more. Some of their parents on the other hand were rude, completely ignored me and shouted at the teachers.

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This is a familiar narrative. Are people from the slums in Argentina more remarkably rude, most particularly within their own families and communities?
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:16 pm

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Calimera II wrote:For school I had to work in a 'black' neighbourhood at a school, teaching children how to read. And the children were so sweet and nice and it made me realise that they have the opportunity to become doctors, pilots, teachers etc. So I honestly think that the government should help these children even more. Some of their parents on the other hand were rude, completely ignored me and shouted at the teachers.

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This is a familiar narrative. Are people from the slums in Argentina more remarkably rude, most particularly within their own families and communities?


This has nothing to do with what I just wrote.

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Postby Eastern Equestria » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:17 pm

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You should really stop putting words in other people's mouth. You do it continuously.


Because clearly PEGIDA has also rallied against Jewish, Indian and Asian immigration.


It should be fucking obvious that PEGIDA only stands in protest of Muslim immigration when their organization's name literally stands for "Patriotic Europeans Against the Islamization of the West".

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Postby Edgy Opinions » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:19 pm

Calimera II wrote:This has nothing to do with what I just wrote.

I mean people from impoverished communities in general. That exposing children to perceptibly neglecting or harsh attitudes and culture is a great part of what creates big trouble in the long term.

I'm trying to make a comparison with the situation in my own country.
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:22 pm

Edgy Opinions wrote:
Calimera II wrote:This has nothing to do with what I just wrote.

I mean people from impoverished communities in general. That exposing children to perceptibly neglecting or harsh attitudes and culture is a great part of what creates big trouble in the long term.

I'm trying to make a comparison with the situation in my own country.


Oh sure, but in The Netherlands it has more to do with culture than with poverty.

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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:27 pm

Hopefully 25k on Monday
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:28 pm

Southern Hampshire wrote:Hopefully 25k on Monday


25k protestors? I sure hope 25,000 people won't turn out to protest against a group of people. I know I'd feel terrible if I was an Islamic immigrant who looked out my window and saw hoards of people telling me and my family to get the fuck out.
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:31 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Southern Hampshire wrote:Hopefully 25k on Monday


25k protestors? I sure hope 25,000 people won't turn out to protest against a group of people. I know I'd feel terrible if I was an Islamic immigrant who looked out my window and saw hoards of people telling me and my family to get the fuck out.


That is not what they are doing. The protestors are against 'the islamisation of society.' They aren't against muslim people.

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:31 pm

Calimera II wrote:
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25k protestors? I sure hope 25,000 people won't turn out to protest against a group of people. I know I'd feel terrible if I was an Islamic immigrant who looked out my window and saw hoards of people telling me and my family to get the fuck out.


That is not what they are doing. The protestors are against 'the islamisation of society.' They aren't against muslim people.


And their approach to stopping "Islamization" is to tell Muslims to get the fuck out.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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Postby Trollgaard » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:31 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Southern Hampshire wrote:Hopefully 25k on Monday


25k protestors? I sure hope 25,000 people won't turn out to protest against a group of people. I know I'd feel terrible if I was an Islamic immigrant who looked out my window and saw hoards of people telling me and my family to get the fuck out.


Hypothetically you could get out.

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Postby Trollgaard » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:32 pm

Southern Hampshire wrote:Hopefully 25k on Monday


Hopefully it will make it into the hundreds of thousands and millions across Europe.

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Postby North Calaveras » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:33 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Southern Hampshire wrote:Hopefully 25k on Monday


25k protestors? I sure hope 25,000 people won't turn out to protest against a group of people. I know I'd feel terrible if I was an Islamic immigrant who looked out my window and saw hoards of people telling me and my family to get the fuck out.



at least tehy can protest, if this were an islamic country there would be no protest.
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:34 pm

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That is not what they are doing. The protestors are against 'the islamisation of society.' They aren't against muslim people.


And their approach to stopping "Islamization" is to tell Muslims to get the fuck out.


That's it. I am going to call the "Ministry of Manipulation and Twisting Words" to tell them you are interested.

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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:37 pm

North Calaveras wrote:
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25k protestors? I sure hope 25,000 people won't turn out to protest against a group of people. I know I'd feel terrible if I was an Islamic immigrant who looked out my window and saw hoards of people telling me and my family to get the fuck out.



at least tehy can protest, if this were an islamic country there would be no protest.


What type of faulty logic is this? "The protest is justified because they're allowed to do so!"
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:39 pm

:idea:
North Calaveras wrote:
Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
25k protestors? I sure hope 25,000 people won't turn out to protest against a group of people. I know I'd feel terrible if I was an Islamic immigrant who looked out my window and saw hoards of people telling me and my family to get the fuck out.



at least tehy can protest, if this were an islamic country there would be no protest.


You know what, this is an important point. If the current Islamization of society is going the way it is, we WON'T be able to protest at all, much like their homeland and sharia law.

Precisely what I fear.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:40 pm

Calimera II wrote:
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25k protestors? I sure hope 25,000 people won't turn out to protest against a group of people. I know I'd feel terrible if I was an Islamic immigrant who looked out my window and saw hoards of people telling me and my family to get the fuck out.


That is not what they are doing. The protestors are against 'the islamisation of society.' They aren't against muslim people.


What's the difference, honestly? They can be seen holding signs literally telling Muslims to leave. I don't see why you're defending the group.
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:40 pm

Southern Hampshire wrote::idea:
North Calaveras wrote:

at least tehy can protest, if this were an islamic country there would be no protest.


You know what, this is an important point. If the current Islamization of society is going the way it is, we WON'T be able to protest at all, much like their homeland and sharia law.

Precisely what I fear.


And, what percentage of Muslims want protests banned? Have you personally met any Muslims that want protests banned?
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Postby Calimera II » Sat Jan 10, 2015 6:41 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Calimera II wrote:
That is not what they are doing. The protestors are against 'the islamisation of society.' They aren't against muslim people.


What's the difference, honestly? They can be seen holding signs literally telling Muslims to leave. I don't see why you're defending the group.


You are using the same tactics as the persons you dislike. That's exactly what Kirchner said about the protesters that were demonstrating against her "you all are...".

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