Obama

[Tsenor]

There is nothing wrong with being a liberal and/or communist. Obama is doing a great job, and I hope the health care reforms will be a fact in a couple of years.

[The Tofu Islands]

There is nothing wrong with being a liberal and/or communist. Obama is doing a great job, and I hope the health care reforms will be a fact in a couple of years.

Could you do us all a favour and put spoiler tags around your sig? It’s massive (and the allowed limit is 8 lines).

[Nadkor]

Obama is an impotent puppet of the oligarchy controlling the nation. None of his policies nor his campaign promises have come to fruition.

Yet another failed president.

I miss Reagan.

He's been in for a year and has been somewhat distracted by this thing called the economy.

[NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ]

Obama is an impotent puppet of the oligarchy controlling the nation. None of his policies nor his campaign promises have come to fruition.

Yet another failed president.

I miss Reagan.

Really? I can think of 92 off the top of my head.

He probably hasn't brought many of Reagan's campaign promises to fruition. Maybe that's why you're confused.

[Resolute Prime]

Obama is an impotent puppet of the oligarchy controlling the nation. None of his policies nor his campaign promises have come to fruition.

Yet another failed president.

I miss Reagan.

He's been in for a year and has been somewhat distracted by this thing called the economy.

said economy has also just recovered from a tailspin that rivalled that of the great depresion. The last this is entirely new ground he's treading on, and this is his first year no less. give him time.

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Obama is an impotent puppet of the oligarchy controlling the nation. None of his policies nor his campaign promises have come to fruition.

Yet another failed president.

I miss Reagan.

He's been in for a year and has been somewhat distracted by this thing called the economy.

Which he has done nothing to fix and everything to worsen. It is VERY easy to fix the economy. GET OUT OF THE WAY. Reduce or eliminate payroll taxes and capital gains taxes. Reduce regulations on doing business.

Rather, Obama is doing (or supporting) the exact opposite. Cap and trade is NOT good for the economy. Bailouts are NOT good for the economy. Universal Health care is NOT good for the economy. Supporting Unions is NOT good for the economy.

edit: Expanding the GOVMT is NOT good for the economy either.

[Kobrania]

Obama is an impotent puppet of the oligarchy controlling the nation. None of his policies nor his campaign promises have come to fruition.

Yet another failed president.

I miss Reagan.

He's been in for a year and has been somewhat distracted by this thing called the economy.

Which he has done nothing to fix and everything to worsen. It is VERY easy to fix the economy. GET OUT OF THE WAY. Reduce or eliminate payroll taxes and capital gains taxes. Reduce regulations on doing business.

Rather, Obama is doing (or supporting) the exact opposite. Cap and trade is NOT good for the economy. Bailouts are NOT good for the economy. Universal Health care is NOT good for the economy. Supporting Unions is NOT good for the economy.

edit: Expanding the GOVMT is NOT good for the economy either.

Regan started the debt that you are currently cursed with...

[Matthew Ommert]

OBAMA ISNT MUSLIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How do you know? I'm pretty sure he hasn't had to show his birth certificate yet!

[Drachmar]

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Which he has done nothing to fix and everything to worsen. It is VERY easy to fix the economy. GET OUT OF THE WAY. Reduce or eliminate payroll taxes and capital gains taxes. Reduce regulations on doing business.

Rather, Obama is doing (or supporting) the exact opposite. Cap and trade is NOT good for the economy. Bailouts are NOT good for the economy. Universal Health care is NOT good for the economy. Supporting Unions is NOT good for the economy.

edit: Expanding the GOVMT is NOT good for the economy either.

Regan started the debt that you are currently cursed with...

Reagan started this deregulation we are currently cursed with...or was it Carter? I really can't remember. Although Reagan did classify ketchup as a vegetable. *fail*

[NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ]

edit: Expanding the GOVMT is NOT good for the economy either.

Tell me again, who was president from 1981 to 1989?

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Obama is an impotent puppet of the oligarchy controlling the nation. None of his policies nor his campaign promises have come to fruition.

Yet another failed president.

I miss Reagan.

He's been in for a year and has been somewhat distracted by this thing called the economy.

Which he has done nothing to fix and everything to worsen. It is VERY easy to fix the economy. GET OUT OF THE WAY. Reduce or eliminate payroll taxes and capital gains taxes. Reduce regulations on doing business.

Rather, Obama is doing (or supporting) the exact opposite. Cap and trade is NOT good for the economy. Bailouts are NOT good for the economy. Universal Health care is NOT good for the economy. Supporting Unions is NOT good for the economy.

edit: Expanding the GOVMT is NOT good for the economy either.

Regan started the debt that you are currently cursed with...

Started, yes. Got us out of a massive recession, yes. Should have done more to reduce the size of govmt, yes. Subsequent POTUS' inflated the debt to astronomical numbers, yes.

[Inertina]

Which he has done nothing to fix and everything to worsen. It is VERY easy to fix the economy. GET OUT OF THE WAY. Reduce or eliminate payroll taxes and capital gains taxes. Reduce regulations on doing business.

I don't understand how conservatives can double think this. The recession struck at the financial sector due to a complete lack of regulation over toxic asset swaps. The government stepped in precisely because if it hadn't, it was all but certain every major bank was going to go under. The recession we have no is nothing compared to what it would have been had the banks not been bailed out.

Further, reducing taxes does nothing for businesses which have already gone under or employees who've already lost their jobs. In severe recessions, stimulus is needed. Cutting off government spending in the middle of a recession is a disaster in the making.

Rather, Obama is doing (or supporting) the exact opposite. Cap and trade is NOT good for the economy. Bailouts are NOT good for the economy. Universal Health care is NOT good for the economy. Supporting Unions is NOT good for the economy.

Cap and Trade isn't law yet and hasn't been finalized. Bills have a way of metamorphosing. Bailouts are what stabilized this economy, and there wouldn't be much of any growth without it. Universal Healthcare is good for the economy, especially if costs do see some controls. Obama's been very lax to union support, to his credit- I don't think anyone will see Card Check anytime soon. And finally, the economy is currently growing, albeit slowly, unemployment is stabilizing, and the stock market is rallying. You can moan and gripe all you like, but it seems Obama has been doing something right.

[NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ]

Started, yes. Got us out of a massive recession, yes. Should have done more to reduce the size of govmt, yes. Subsequent POTUS' inflated the debt to astronomical numbers, yes.

Last time I checked, Clinton ended his term with a surplus...

[South Lorenya]

Techncially the debt started with the revolutionary war, and was only at 0 for a brief time during andrew jackson's presidency.

Reagen did, however, more than triple the debt.

[New Manvir]

Obama is an impotent puppet of the oligarchy controlling the nation. None of his policies nor his campaign promises have come to fruition.

Yet another failed president.

I miss Reagan.

Of course. Why just have a puppet of the oligarchy controlling the nation, when you could have a treasonous puppet of the oligarchy controlling the nation.

[Drachmar]

Started, yes. Got us out of a massive recession, yes. Should have done more to reduce the size of govmt, yes. Subsequent POTUS' inflated the debt to astronomical numbers, yes.

Last time I checked, Clinton ended his term with a surplus...

That would be that hump in the 90's where the national debt started to actually decline. So KMA, your assessment is incorrect.

although I'm sure the reasoning is because Clinton was setup for the greatest expansion of the U.S. economy by Bush senior's administration. That's the argument I usually hear.

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Which he has done nothing to fix and everything to worsen. It is VERY easy to fix the economy. GET OUT OF THE WAY. Reduce or eliminate payroll taxes and capital gains taxes. Reduce regulations on doing business.

I don't understand how conservatives can double think this. The recession struck at the financial sector due to a complete lack of regulation over toxic asset swaps. The government stepped in precisely because if it hadn't, it was all but certain every major bank was going to go under. The recession we have no is nothing compared to what it would have been had the banks not been bailed out.

Further, reducing taxes does nothing for businesses which have already gone under or employees who've already lost their jobs. In severe recessions, stimulus is needed. Cutting off government spending in the middle of a recession is a disaster in the making.

Rather, Obama is doing (or supporting) the exact opposite. Cap and trade is NOT good for the economy. Bailouts are NOT good for the economy. Universal Health care is NOT good for the economy. Supporting Unions is NOT good for the economy.

Cap and Trade isn't law yet and hasn't been finalized. Bills have a way of metamorphosing. Bailouts are what stabilized this economy, and there wouldn't be much of any growth without it. Universal Healthcare is good for the economy, especially if costs do see some controls. Obama's been very lax to union support, to his credit- I don't think anyone will see Card Check anytime soon. And finally, the economy is currently growing, albeit slowly, unemployment is stabilizing, and the stock market is rallying. You can moan and gripe all you like, but it seems Obama has been doing something right.

Granted, he seems to be a good basketball player, and a good orator (well, until his teleprompter fails).

BTW, the current economic crisis happened because banks were FORCED by the govmt to provide home loans to people who were not qualified. The other reason was because other people were using thier houses as BUSINESSES( "flip this house") and when the housing market dried up those people could no longer "flip thier houses" and the flood of foreclosures began and the dominoes fell.

[NotnotgnimmiJymmiJ]

BTW, the current economic crisis happened because banks were FORCED by the govmt to provide home loans to people who were not qualified.

[citation needed]

[JuNii]

He's also one of the most hate, for some reason?

oh really?

I thought that was shrub?

[The Tofu Islands]

oh really?

I thought that was shrub?

From what I recall (don’t have a link, though, and probably can’t be bothered to go look) Obama’s had far more death threats then any other president.

[Nadkor]

Obama is an impotent puppet of the oligarchy controlling the nation. None of his policies nor his campaign promises have come to fruition.

Yet another failed president.

I miss Reagan.

He's been in for a year and has been somewhat distracted by this thing called the economy.

Which he has done nothing to fix and everything to worsen. It is VERY easy to fix the economy. GET OUT OF THE WAY. Reduce or eliminate payroll taxes and capital gains taxes. Reduce regulations on doing business.

Rather, Obama is doing (or supporting) the exact opposite. Cap and trade is NOT good for the economy. Bailouts are NOT good for the economy. Universal Health care is NOT good for the economy. Supporting Unions is NOT good for the economy.

edit: Expanding the GOVMT is NOT good for the economy either.

Answer me two questions:
What state was the economy in 365 days ago?
What state is the economy in today?

[KiloMikeAlpha]

Started, yes. Got us out of a massive recession, yes. Should have done more to reduce the size of govmt, yes. Subsequent POTUS' inflated the debt to astronomical numbers, yes.

Last time I checked, Clinton ended his term with a surplus...

yeah, but all Clinton did was commit adultery with a fat intern. *I* could get a surplus if that is all *I* did while I was in office.

BTW, what was the economy like? GDP? Tax rates? I could have a surplus too if I taxed the wealthy 90% of their income... for a while. Then the wealthy move to the Cayman Islands, and take their businesses with them as well as their taxes. THEN, because we haven't reduced the size of government, we have a shortfall in revenue, but no decrease in expenditures, in fact it goes up because we now have ALL of these poor people on the welfare rolls because the evil rich men moved.

[Kobrania]

Started, yes. Got us out of a massive recession, yes. Should have done more to reduce the size of govmt, yes. Subsequent POTUS' inflated the debt to astronomical numbers, yes.

Last time I checked, Clinton ended his term with a surplus...

yeah, but all Clinton did was commit adultery with a fat intern. *I* could get a surplus if that is all *I* did while I was in office.

BTW, what was the economy like? GDP? Tax rates? I could have a surplus too if I taxed the wealthy 90% of their income... for a while. Then the wealthy move to the Cayman Islands, and take their businesses with them as well as their taxes. THEN, because we haven't reduced the size of government, we have a shortfall in revenue, but no decrease in expenditures, in fact it goes up because we now have ALL of these poor people on the welfare rolls because the evil rich men moved.

No man in the history of the US has decrease the size of government.

[Flameswroth]

oh really?

I thought that was shrub?

From what I recall (don’t have a link, though, and probably can’t be bothered to go look) Obama’s had far more death threats then any other president.

I don't think death threats are a good indicator, myself. That just indicates a different audience of haters.

For instance, let's say 8 out of 10 people hate Bush, but only 1 out of those 8 hates him enough to threaten death. In Obama's case it could be more like 6 of 10 that hate Obama, but 3 out of those six hate him enough to kill him.

Assuming we're taking the highest number of hateful people, rather than the highest obscure 'hate unit' where death threats are worth more than generic hate, there's still more hating on Le Bouche than there is on BonoBama even though the latter has more death threats.

[JuNii]

oh really?

I thought that was shrub?

From what I recall (don’t have a link, though, and probably can’t be bothered to go look) Obama’s had far more death threats then any other president.

threats are nothing. it's attempts. and so far, Frm Pres Bush had handgrenades and shoes thrown at him and some tried to crash a plane into his House.