Toddler Shoots and Kills Mother

[Glamour]

No, thank fuck. It still happens though. Another child scarred for life by playing with adult toys. Which aren't really toys, or fun, except for those of a warped disposition.

It's the exact same thrill people get from watching NASCAR or drag racing.

Then that's what their hobby should be. And there is a good reason why ordinary citizens don't get to drag race in the streets. It is dangerous.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Cuz that happens every day amirite?

No, thank fuck. It still happens though. Another child scarred for life by playing with adult toys. Which aren't really toys, or fun, except for those of a warped disposition.

Insulting people because they like something you don't probably isn't the best way to go about things

[Glamour]

No, thank fuck. It still happens though. Another child scarred for life by playing with adult toys. Which aren't really toys, or fun, except for those of a warped disposition.

Insulting people because they like something you don't probably isn't the best way to go about things

Neither is carrying a gun, really. But that's just my opinion. I will express it.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Insulting people because they like something you don't probably isn't the best way to go about things

Neither is carrying a gun, really.

Real mature. ●～*

[Imperializt Russia]

It's the exact same thrill people get from watching NASCAR or drag racing.

Then that's what their hobby should be. And there is a good reason why ordinary citizens don't get to drag race in the streets. It is dangerous.

Race drivers die too.

[Glamour]

Neither is carrying a gun, really.

Real mature. ●～*

Imagine me as the target next time if it helps you get over it.

Race drivers are allowed to race and die. Not everyone is allowed to drive racing cars and endanger themselves and others. Or give toddlers the keys to racecars.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Real mature. ●～*

Imagine me as the target next time if it helps you get over it.

You sound like a 13 year old right now. Feel good about yourself?

[Glamour]

Imagine me as the target next time if it helps you get over it.

You sound like a 13 year old right now. Feel good about yourself?

Yes. This thread wouldn't change how I felt about myself.

[Imperializt Russia]

Real mature. ●～*

Imagine me as the target next time if it helps you get over it.

Race drivers are allowed to race and die. Not everyone is allowed to drive racing cars and endanger themselves and others. Or give toddlers the keys to racecars.

This is why race drivers have a race licence and concealed carry holders have concealed carry licences.

[Glamour]

Imagine me as the target next time if it helps you get over it.

Race drivers are allowed to race and die. Not everyone is allowed to drive racing cars and endanger themselves and others. Or give toddlers the keys to racecars.

This is why race drivers have a race licence and concealed carry holders have concealed carry licences.

Now all we need is designated zones only for both racing and shooting and everything will be fine, and things like this wouldn't happen.

[Imperializt Russia]

This is why race drivers have a race licence and concealed carry holders have concealed carry licences.

Now all we need is designated zones only for both racing and shooting and everything will be fine, and things like this wouldn't happen.

Much like with a car, if you're using it on private land you don't need a licence. CCW licences specifically permit public carry of firearms. That's literally all it exists for.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

This is why race drivers have a race licence and concealed carry holders have concealed carry licences.

Now all we need is designated zones only for both racing and shooting and everything will be fine, and things like this wouldn't happen.

That stance is literally "Let's take this thing I think is a problem and put it in its own little box so it won't be a problem anymore." Good on ya.

[Glamour]

Now all we need is designated zones only for both racing and shooting and everything will be fine, and things like this wouldn't happen.

That stance is literally "Let's take this thing I think is a problem and put it in its own little box so it won't be a problem anymore." Good on ya.

Nope. The stance is apply regulations to things that are objectively dangerous, so for example while you can drive around at whatever speed you want on your own land or shoot on your own land, you can't drag race in a mall car park or carry a gun in a mall. You can't let children get involved in either hobby, the same way you can't give them a cigarette. No matter the circumstances, if you run someone down or shoot someone, you're subject to investigation.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

That stance is literally "Let's take this thing I think is a problem and put it in its own little box so it won't be a problem anymore." Good on ya.

Nope. The stance is apply regulations to things that are objectively dangerous, so for example while you can drive around at whatever speed you want on your own land or shoot on your own land, you can't drag race in a mall car park or carry a gun in a mall. You can't let children get involved in either hobby, the same way you can't give them a cigarette. No matter the circumstances, if you run someone down or shoot someone, you're subject to investigation.

According to that your idea of concealed carry must be something along these lines.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HI64HjwhRAo

[Imperializt Russia]

That stance is literally "Let's take this thing I think is a problem and put it in its own little box so it won't be a problem anymore." Good on ya.

Nope. The stance is apply regulations to things that are objectively dangerous, so for example while you can drive around at whatever speed you want on your own land or shoot on your own land, you can't drag race in a mall car park or carry a gun in a mall. You can't let children get involved in either hobby, the same way you can't give them a cigarette. No matter the circumstances, if you run someone down or shoot someone, you're subject to investigation.

There is virtually nothing that prevents you from buying a car and letting your children drive it around on private land.
Same for firearms.

Of course in either instance, I'd have the parents (or any other competent adult) actually supervising them as they do either activity - but nothing prevents you from sharing this hobby with your children.

[Glamour]

http://www.findlaw.co.uk/law/motoring/500555.html

The public have access to the streets. America can do what it likes, but things like this incident are the consequences. The potential consequences are the same for those who do these things on private property. They are dangerous activities that children shouldn't be involved in. But if you're OK with the idea that your child might shoot you or crash then that's your prerogative. But to let them do these things in public or for you to do these things in public is illegal in my country and that's why things like this don't happen here, and why boy racers are a scourge of society who are punishable by law. But if you want to feel like you're in Fast and Furious or Mission Impossible on your own land, OK. Do it. But this toddler could have shot literally anyone.

[New Tsavon]

And I care about the opinion of a statist, why?

Well, you should since it shows the person has a realistic rather than idealistic world view.

So, how many boots would you say you lick on a daily basis?

[Gauthier]

Firearms should be required to safely locked away with bullets separated, with no carrying open or concealed, unless for employment, hunting, or sporting. I don't care about "blah blah 2nd amendment". It's time to end the gun culture once and for all. We need to cultural change to stamp out this culture where we regard firearms as normal and fun.

You want to watch crime skyrocket? When you can get all the predatory criminals in society to agree and adhere to that, then there will be no need for the average citizen to carry a gun. Until then, we have the right and the need.

I love this narrative that crime was an all-pervasive epidemic before the invention of firearms.

[Calivada]

If criminals can't get guns, then there should be less criminality, not more.

[Big Jim P]

Nope. The stance is apply regulations to things that are objectively dangerous, so for example while you can drive around at whatever speed you want on your own land or shoot on your own land, you can't drag race in a mall car park or carry a gun in a mall. You can't let children get involved in either hobby, the same way you can't give them a cigarette. No matter the circumstances, if you run someone down or shoot someone, you're subject to investigation.

There is virtually nothing that prevents you from buying a car and letting your children drive it around on private land.
Same for firearms.

Of course in either instance, I'd have the parents (or any other competent adult) actually supervising them as they do either activity - but nothing prevents you from sharing this hobby with your children.

That is exactly how I learned to shoot: on private land with my parents supervision.

[Big Jim P]

If criminals can't get guns, then there should be less criminality, not more.

Too bad that is not the most common effect of gun control.

[Big Jim P]

No, thank fuck. It still happens though. Another child scarred for life by playing with adult toys. Which aren't really toys, or fun, except for those of a warped disposition.

Insulting people because they like something you don't probably isn't the best way to go about things

I don't know. It has really earned my respect.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Son, are you on the dope?

People would still fight, they'd just send random people in to pillage/skirmish/raid/take over shit instead. Having a professional military to send instead keeps Joe Citizen from having to go and do it. One of the better ideas society has had, I'd say.

If that happened, they would be a military - a shit one.

Nobody should go to another country to fight anyone else. If nobody did, there would be no war. It's an individual's own decision whether or not to do that. I'd rather go to prison.

This is why a formalized military is good.

You can always declare Conscious Objector status.

[WestRedMaple]

If you own a gun, it means you're open to the idea of shooting someone.

If you're open to the idea of shooting someone and you get shot, well, you know how it feels.

If you join the military and are killed by a stranger, too bad, you signed up to kill strangers. You just weren't good enough at your job.

The same way this woman wasn't really interested in guns enough to understand how to make them safe. She just wanted to feel edgy, or like she was in an action movie. I hope in her last moment she did feel like that if that's what she wanted.

The poor child will be ruined for life.

Of course I'm open to the idea of shooting someone. I much prefer it to them shooting, stabbing, clubbing, etc me or my wife, children, parents, friends, etc

[Soldati Senza Confini]

As a nuclear scientist myself, I'd like to contest this generalisation.

I really hope our nuclear scientists aren't stupid, or we are more doomed than even I thought.

Also, instead of murderous item, deadly item.

Just because you're educated that doesn't make you less of an idiot.

Just look at Sarah Palin and Paul Ryan.