New Greek elections

[Insaeldor]

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[Baltenstein]

...he's saying that he couldn't imagine them forming a coaliton.

[Insaeldor]

...he's saying that he couldn't imagine them forming a coaliton.

... God damnit. I'll edit that post, sorry about that.

[Atlanticatia]

I'm very disappointed that Golden Dawn didn't win, but maybe if Syriza does bad enough, it will be a golden opportunity for them to fill a vacuum of despair if Greece goes further downhill. Golden Dawn can ride out this storm and make a comeback if they don't repeat the same mistakes.

I'd rather not have a Neo-Nazi fascist party, with ultranationalist antisemitic leadership, leading Greece.

Golden Dawn should not exist.

[MERIZoC]

I'm very disappointed that Golden Dawn didn't win, but maybe if Syriza does bad enough, it will be a golden opportunity for them to fill a vacuum of despair if Greece goes further downhill. Golden Dawn can ride out this storm and make a comeback if they don't repeat the same mistakes.

I'd rather not have a Neo-Nazi fascist party, with a Holocaust-denier leader, leading Greece.

Golden Dawn should not exist.

It almost doesn't. Most of their MP's are in prison, iirc.

[Lucasaer]

Did it only take 6hours for both parties to make a coalition?
In Germany the SPD and the CDU took like 3 months even though everybody knew that they would govern.

[MERIZoC]

Did it only take 6hours for both parties to make a coalition?
In Germany the SPD and the CDU took like 3 months even though everybody knew that they would govern.

What was the size discrepancy between those two parties? That probably had something to do with how quick this was.

[Insaeldor]

Did it only take 6hours for both parties to make a coalition?
In Germany the SPD and the CDU took like 3 months even though everybody knew that they would govern.

I have a feeling it went like this

Tsipras: "so are you anti-austerity?"

Kammenos: "yup, what about you?"

Tsipras: "yep"

Kammenos: "good"

Tsipras: "it is, alright now let's just sit here and try to make it seem we did something alright guy."

[Insaeldor]

Did it only take 6hours for both parties to make a coalition?
In Germany the SPD and the CDU took like 3 months even though everybody knew that they would govern.

What was the size discrepancy between those two parties? That probably had something to do with how quick this was.

I think ANEL only has 16 seats maybe 14. So it lotter ally was just Tsipras trying to will in the needed two seat gap that SYRIZA had for a Minority.

[Saiwania]

I'd rather not have a Neo-Nazi fascist party, with ultranationalist antisemitic leadership, leading Greece.
Golden Dawn should not exist.

Banning the party will just make them more popular, and if they won- it would just show that their platform is what Greeks want.
I don't think the 26th of July Movement is worthy of ruling over Cuba but nevertheless, they are in firm control and that won't be contested.

[Atlanticatia]

I'd rather not have a Neo-Nazi fascist party, with a Holocaust-denier leader, leading Greece.

Golden Dawn should not exist.

It almost doesn't. Most of their MP's are in prison, iirc.

Part of me wishes it'd be banned(and Nazism/fascism in general), but that might not be the best idea, considering it might possibly result in more support for it. And I'm not really sure how I'd feel about an outright ban of a party, regardless of how abhorrent it is.

[Parti Ouvrier]

I'd rather not have a Neo-Nazi fascist party, with a Holocaust-denier leader, leading Greece.

Golden Dawn should not exist.

It almost doesn't. Most of their MP's are in prison, iirc.

Which makes 291 seats filled,(9 in jail) in other words, Syriza didn't need to go into coalition, let alone with a Greek Ukip!!!
Solidarity with the Greeks who are suffering.
Solidarity redacted for Syriza. Well done, (sarcasm)

[Parti Ouvrier]

Did it only take 6hours for both parties to make a coalition?
In Germany the SPD and the CDU took like 3 months even though everybody knew that they would govern.

I have a feeling it went like this

Tsipras: "so are you anti-austerity?"

Kammenos: "yup, what about you?"

Tsipras: "yep"

Kammenos: "good"

Tsipras: "it is, alright now let's just sit here and try to make it seem we did something alright guy."

Problem is, ANEL will probably demand concessions in regard to the military and with the Church.

[Insaeldor]

I have a feeling it went like this

Tsipras: "so are you anti-austerity?"

Kammenos: "yup, what about you?"

Tsipras: "yep"

Kammenos: "good"

Tsipras: "it is, alright now let's just sit here and try to make it seem we did something alright guy."

Problem is, ANEL will probably demand concession in regard to the military and with the Church.

Well somebody obviously doesn't appreciate my fine taste in humor

[Lucasaer]

Did it only take 6hours for both parties to make a coalition?
In Germany the SPD and the CDU took like 3 months even though everybody knew that they would govern.

What was the size discrepancy between those two parties? That probably had something to do with how quick this was.

Well the SPD had a quite left program but it was sure that they would make a coalition because the FDP (partner of the CDU) did very bad in the polls and 2 months before the election many politician admited that they dont believe that the FDP will enter the parliament. Also Merkel made a coalition with the SPD in 2005 and the SPD candidate was the former minister of finance.

And the difference between ANEL and Syriza are quite bigger than between the CDU and the SPD.
6 hours might be a new record.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

What was the size discrepancy between those two parties? That probably had something to do with how quick this was.

Well the SPD had a quite left program but it was sure that they would make a coalition because the FDP (partner of the CDU) did very bad in the polls and 2 months before the election many politician admited that they dont believe that the FDP will enter the parliament. Also Merkel made a coalition with the SPD in 2005 and the SPD candidate was the former minister of finance.

I think you also need to take into account the dire situation Greece is in, and the fact that ANEL and SYRIZA had brought up a coalition before.

[Liberty and Linguistics]

I have a feeling it went like this

Tsipras: "so are you anti-austerity?"

Kammenos: "yup, what about you?"

Tsipras: "yep"

Kammenos: "good"

Tsipras: "it is, alright now let's just sit here and try to make it seem we did something alright guy."

Problem is, ANEL will probably demand concession in regard to the military and with the Church.

I do hope that the policies going through the Hellenic Parliament are related to the economy, not to the church and military.

[Lucasaer]

Well the SPD had a quite left program but it was sure that they would make a coalition because the FDP (partner of the CDU) did very bad in the polls and 2 months before the election many politician admited that they dont believe that the FDP will enter the parliament. Also Merkel made a coalition with the SPD in 2005 and the SPD candidate was the former minister of finance.

I think you also need to take into account the dire situation Greece is in, and the fact that ANEL and SYRIZA had brought up a coalition before.

Well the CDU and SPD did too. I thought that it will take atleast 1-2 days but 6 hours.

[Saiwania]

It almost doesn't. Most of their MP's are in prison, iirc.

Right, because Greece's government considers some rapper to be more important than restoring Greece to economic health or building up their military enough to compete with Turkey.

[Insaeldor]

Problem is, ANEL will probably demand concession in regard to the military and with the Church.

I do hope that the policies going through the Hellenic Parliament are related to the economy, not to the church and military.

Consitering how expensive the Greek military is at times it would surprise me if they attempted to cut the military to a degree and put more money into social policy and the like.

[Parti Ouvrier]

Problem is, ANEL will probably demand concession in regard to the military and with the Church.

I do hope that the policies going through the Hellenic Parliament are related to the economy, not to the church and military.

So, lets just avoid anything too political, and just be economistic.
I know they couldn't go into coalition with KKE, (KKE ruled it out before the election) and I disagree with them on some issues, not least, their stance on EU membership, but at least the KKE are demanding things like a withdrawal from Nato. I'll also add, whilst there would not have been a coalition with KKE, they could at least rely on some support from KKE in parliament. Finally, there is a lot of what Syriza needs to do that doesn't require legislation.

Anyway, Syriza should not have taken power anyway, or the 50 seat top up, that would have put ND and Pasok in a lot of trouble. They would then need to scamble to form a workable coalition.

[Saiwania]

So this song looks to be what would be Greece's official national anthem if Golden Dawn was to take complete control of the country.
Isn't it magnificent? I think this could inspire Greeks the world over.

[Martean]

Day 1 of Tsipras government:

-An asteroid passes near the earth
-Demis Roussos dies
-A Greek F-16 crashes in Albacete, Spain

Oh shit, I'm starting to feel scared, ebul comunists only bring desperation

[The Qeiiam Galaxy]

It almost doesn't. Most of their MP's are in prison, iirc.

Right, because Greece's government considers some rapper to be more important than restoring Greece to economic health or building up their military enough to compete with Turkey.

Neo-nazis won't restore Greece's economy and why the fuck should they start a dickwaving contest with Turkey? What are you, an irredentist?

[The Qeiiam Galaxy]

So this song looks to be what would be Greece's official national anthem if Golden Dawn was to take complete control of the country.
Isn't it magnificent? I think this could inspire Greeks the world over.

The Greek people can't eat an anthem.