New Greek elections

[Camelza]

He's a moron.

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What did he wrong that you consider him a moron?

I mean from poistion of the Greeks it is much better having a monarch than an unelected president.

The main answer to your question was given by the Greek people in 1974 after more than 100 years of republican struggles.

[Chestaan]

I'm more talking about the traditional way of paying off debt by putting the printing press into overdrive. If Greece leaves the euro they can print money, but that will only cause inflation in a hypothetical new Greek currency, not in euro. Greek government bonds are denominated in euros, so devaluing a Greek currency wouldn't affect the debt at all.

The debt only exists as long as Greece decides it exists. There is no need to print more money to pay for it. Greece has tremendous leverage especially right now.

Agreed, I'm just pointing out why printing money would not work.

[Lucasaer]

Greece already had a Fascist regime twice; we don't need a third try.

Syriza is not fascist and most Greek people don't support Golden Dawn.

Austerity is what has fueled increased support for the fascist parties and so as long as Syriza fulfills their campaign promises you should see a decline in support for Golden Dawn over time.

Nobody said that Syriza is fascist.

[Busen]

What did he wrong that you consider him a moron?

I mean from poistion of the Greeks it is much better having a monarch than an unelected president.

The monarch is unelected. The president is elected by the parliament.

Neither of them is elected by the people. The president is also a politicians who often must make concession to get on power. A royal does not need to be corrupt

Also, neither of them have any real powers. Also, monarchies means prestige.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Greece already had a Fascist regime twice; we don't need a third try.

Syriza is not fascist and most Greek people don't support Golden Dawn.

Austerity is what has fueled increased support for the fascist parties and so as long as Syriza fulfills their campaign promises you should see a decline in support for Golden Dawn over time.

It is imperative that Syriza succeeds to reduce chances of Neo-Nazi groups reaching that far in future, but it also means that Greeks an Turkish people should try to rebuild trust between each other and hold past events to account in a constructive manner, instead of holding on to the "us vs. them" trend I've seen too many times.

In general, if a country is going to be attractive, it has to stop discriminating anyone on basis of religion or ethnic origin just because of historical events. Now, I know some are going to say "forgiveness is not an option", but imposing collective responsibility by religion or ethnic origin is totally ridiculous: at least hold the actual authority to account rather than blaming the ordinary person.

[Baltenstein]

He's a moron.

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What did he wrong that you consider him a moron?

First, as king he constantly meddled with interior politics, even trying to (unconstitutionally) appointing several governments of his own with his own hand-picked ministers (all of which failed and resigned one after the other).
Then, when the military coup happened, at first he was cooperative with the colonels. After a short while, he decided to stage a counter-coup which was organized so badly and needlessly complicated that the colonels discovered and quickly neutralized it before it could have any effect. Then he fled.
More recently, he has sued Greece for financial compensations, which he eventually got.
Not an inspiring figure by any means.

[Southern Hampshire]

Greece already had a Fascist regime twice; we don't need a third try.

GDP Per capita improved by $1 600 during the 67-74 Junta, making it the single biggest rise during a single party's rule
GDP tripled

yeah. economically not that bad. socially it's a different topic.

considering greece's problem is heavily economical, i can't see it being THAT bad of a detriment.

[Greater-London]

Also, monarchies means prestige.

Tell you who has lots of prestige. The President of the United States.

[Busen]

First, as king he constantly meddled with interior politics, even trying to (unconstitutionally) appointing several governments of his own with his own hand-picked ministers (all of which failed and resigned one after the other).
Then, when the military coup happened, at first he was cooperative with the colonels. After a short while, he decided to stage a counter-coup which was organized so badly and needlessly complicated that the colonels discovered and quickly neutralized it before it could have any effect. Then he fled.
More recently, he has sued Greece for financial compensations, which he eventually got.
Not an inspiring figure by any means.

Oh, I see.

It is disapointing that he sued Greece, which is treatorous and unpatriotic so it is is better if he is not the King. Maybe there is some better candidate for the Greek throne though.

[Sebastianbourg]

First, as king he constantly meddled with interior politics, even trying to (unconstitutionally) appointing several governments of his own with his own hand-picked ministers (all of which failed and resigned one after the other).
Then, when the military coup happened, at first he was cooperative with the colonels. After a short while, he decided to stage a counter-coup which was organized so badly and needlessly complicated that the colonels discovered and quickly neutralized it before it could have any effect. Then he fled.
More recently, he has sued Greece for financial compensations, which he eventually got.
Not an inspiring figure by any means.

Oh, I see.

It is disapointing that he sued Greece, which is treatorous and unpatriotic so it is is better if he is not the King. Maybe there is some better candidate for the Greek throne though.

Not only that, it's idiotic! This was his only chance (however small and unlikely) to stage a comeback. As a monarchist I can say I wouldn't want this guy on the throne; he's an absolute moron.

PS You could give him his passport back though.

[Southern Hampshire]

I'm more talking about the traditional way of paying off debt by putting the printing press into overdrive. If Greece leaves the euro they can print money, but that will only cause inflation in a hypothetical new Greek currency, not in euro. Greek government bonds are denominated in euros, so devaluing a Greek currency wouldn't affect the debt at all.

The debt only exists as long as Greece decides it exists.

Greek economy only exists as long as foreign creditors decides it exists.

Writing off debt isn't going to fix any problem at all. I mean, when Cuba did that 60 years later they still don't have Coca-Cola.

[Sebastianbourg]

I'm more talking about the traditional way of paying off debt by putting the printing press into overdrive. If Greece leaves the euro they can print money, but that will only cause inflation in a hypothetical new Greek currency, not in euro. Greek government bonds are denominated in euros, so devaluing a Greek currency wouldn't affect the debt at all.

The debt only exists as long as Greece decides it exists. There is no need to print more money to pay for it. Greece has tremendous leverage especially right now.

Good luck funding SYRIZA's idealistic stimulus packages then.

[Natapoc]

The debt only exists as long as Greece decides it exists. There is no need to print more money to pay for it. Greece has tremendous leverage especially right now.

Good luck funding SYRIZA's idealistic stimulus packages then.

I'm not saying Greece will or should cancel all the debt (although the downsides of doing that decrease each day). Instead the very threat of that gives them a lot more power than many people seem to realize.

Belgium has already said they are willing to work with SYRIZA. If Germany wants even the possibility of getting any euros back at all they would be wise to do the same.

Greece is a very productive country full of natural resources and intelligent resourceful people who will be able to prosper with or without the bankers.

Greek economy only exists as long as foreign creditors decides it exists.

False. Greece has an economy with or without foreign creditors. It's time for the foreign creditors to realize they are no longer in control. (The creditors know this too or they would never have made the loans in the first place)

[Discords Equstria]

It is scary how many people selected Golden dawn.

[Sebastianbourg]

Good luck funding SYRIZA's idealistic stimulus packages then.

I'm not saying Greece will or should cancel all the debt (although the downsides of doing that decrease each day). Instead the very threat of that gives them a lot more power than many people seem to realize.

Belgium has already said they are willing to work with SYRIZA. If Germany wants even the possibility of getting any euros back at all they would be wise to do the same.

Greece is a very productive country full of natural resources and intelligent resourceful people who will be able to prosper with or without the bankers.

What are these natural resources you speak of? What makes you say the country is 'full' of these natural resources? To my knowledge Greece only has considerable amounts of bauxite along with small amounts of more valuable resources.

[Busen]

It is scary how many people selected Golden dawn.

From what I heard. They are getting memebrship support from police and soldiers.

[Busen]

Not only that, it's idiotic! This was his only chance (however small and unlikely) to stage a comeback. As a monarchist I can say I wouldn't want this guy on the throne; he's an absolute moron.

PS You could give him his passport back though.

Nah,better not.

[Sebastianbourg]

Not only that, it's idiotic! This was his only chance (however small and unlikely) to stage a comeback. As a monarchist I can say I wouldn't want this guy on the throne; he's an absolute moron.

PS You could give him his passport back though.

Nah,better not.

He's a moron but he's still Greek.

[Baltenstein]

He can get his passport when he chooses a name + surname like anybody else.
But he still wants it to read "King Constantine" which...no.

[Discords Equstria]

It is scary how many people selected Golden dawn.

From what I heard. They are getting memebrship support from police and soldiers.

That is rather bothersome. Actually really bothersome.

[European Socialist Republic]

He can get his passport when he chooses a name + surname like anybody else.
But he still wants it to read "King Constantine" which...no.

He wants his name to be "King"?

[Greater-London]

He wants his name to be "King"?

No he just doesn't have a last name, he won't be allowed a Greek passport until he has one. He also uses his royal title but there's no reason why thy couldn't give him a passport whilst he calls himself "King" just the passport would say "Mr Constantine"

[Baltenstein]

He can get his passport when he chooses a name + surname like anybody else.
But he still wants it to read "King Constantine" which...no.

He wants his name to be "King"?

No he wants a passport which has "king" as a title and "Constantine" as a name. Greek passports don't have any slots for titles though, as having a noble title is against the Greek constitution.
He probably doesn't insist on it reading "king" as a title, but he does insist on not adopting a surname, which makes passport acquiration impossible.

[Busen]

Nah,better not.

He's a moron but he's still Greek.

Vidkun Quisling was also a Norweigian, that does not mean that he desirves a Norweigian passport.

From what I heard. They are getting memebrship support from police and soldiers.

That is rather bothersome. Actually really bothersome.

Yes, such impression I got also. It should be noted the police has a lot to deal with ilegal immigrants which explains a lot why the policeman adopted neo-nazism in Golden dawn.

[Sebastianbourg]

He's a moron but he's still Greek.

Vidkun Quisling was also a Norweigian, that does not mean that he desirves a Norweigian passport.

Well, he was a Norwegian citizen (the fact that he was executed for high treason reinforces this) and was therefore entitled to a passport unless the government decided against that and gave a proper reason.