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Which party do you support in the upcoming Greek elections

Syriza
207
41%
PASOK
8
2%
New Democracy
73
14%
Golden Dawn
109
22%
Potami
15
3%
Dimar
13
3%
KKE
35
7%
ANEL
9
2%
None of the above
35
7%
 
Total votes : 504

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Gezi Park
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Postby Gezi Park » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:04 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Gezi Park wrote:I'm sure many Greeks are into Turkey, the winning party Syriza hailed the Turkish Gezi youth like me

Turks and Greeks have so much in common, culturally speaking, that it's a real shame about all this nationalistic hostility between your two peoples. Yes yes, horrible stuff happened in the past. But the future can be different.

It would take a lot of work, but the future CAN be different.


Past politicians were working on a joint federation, maybe it can be realized one day, I gotta say Greeks and Turks are closer to each other than they are to any other people, maybe that's why we always fight because that's what sisters do :p

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Obresia
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Postby Obresia » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:09 pm

I GG Greece for attempting to knife the EU down.

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Esperantujo 2
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Postby Esperantujo 2 » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:09 pm

An interesting possibility in the medium term would be a new alliance in Europe, like the Bolivaran Union in Latin America. In Britain, some opinion polls show that people inclined to vote for UKIP or the Conservatives, because of opposition to the EU, while disagreeing with their other policies. In Spain, Podemos, a left-wing party could win. In Ireland, the Socialist Party and Sinn Fein are gaining at the expense of the three main parties.

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Pooria
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Postby Pooria » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:12 pm

Gezi Park wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Turks and Greeks have so much in common, culturally speaking, that it's a real shame about all this nationalistic hostility between your two peoples. Yes yes, horrible stuff happened in the past. But the future can be different.

It would take a lot of work, but the future CAN be different.


Past politicians were working on a joint federation, maybe it can be realized one day, I gotta say Greeks and Turks are closer to each other than they are to any other people, maybe that's why we always fight because that's what sisters do :p

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hellenoturkism


that isnt a bad idea but it would be really dificult to happen :/

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Parti Ouvrier
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:14 pm

Esperantujo 2 wrote:An interesting possibility in the medium term would be a new alliance in Europe, like the Bolivaran Union in Latin America. <snip>

Oh come on. :roll: Also, I don't think Podemos is really that supportable.
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Postby Busen » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:19 pm

It seems Syriza will fail two seats to have a majority in the Parliament. ANEL would be the best to make a coalition or even the KKE.
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MERIZoC
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Postby MERIZoC » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:22 pm

Busen wrote:It seems Syriza will fail two seats to have a majority in the Parliament. ANEL would be the best to make a coalition or even the KKE.

:eyebrow:
It'll be To Potami, not either of those.

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Busen
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Postby Busen » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:24 pm

Merizoc wrote:
Busen wrote:It seems Syriza will fail two seats to have a majority in the Parliament. ANEL would be the best to make a coalition or even the KKE.

:eyebrow:
It'll be To Potami, not either of those.

Potami is to pro-EU and pro-asterity. If Syriza makes a coalition with them it would be a disapoitmen for Syrizas voters.
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European Socialist Republic
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:24 pm

Busen wrote:It seems Syriza will fail two seats to have a majority in the Parliament. ANEL would be the best to make a coalition or even the KKE.

ANEL? Aren't those the conspiracy nuts?
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Postby Liberty and Linguistics » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:33 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Busen wrote:It seems Syriza will fail two seats to have a majority in the Parliament. ANEL would be the best to make a coalition or even the KKE.

ANEL? Aren't those the conspiracy nuts?


I didn't know they were into conspiracies. Granted, they're a right wing party with roots in Orthodox Christianity, but I never knew they were into conspiracies. I'll have a Greek answer that question.

I'd also like to point out that because ANEL is opposed to austerity, some have said that SYRIZA should team up with them. It won't happen, ANEL is very, very socially and culturally conservative.
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Busen
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Postby Busen » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:39 pm

European Socialist Republic wrote:
Busen wrote:It seems Syriza will fail two seats to have a majority in the Parliament. ANEL would be the best to make a coalition or even the KKE.

ANEL? Aren't those the conspiracy nuts?

No?

I always though they are some kind of a right-wing version of Syriza.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:41 pm

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:ANEL? Aren't those the conspiracy nuts?


I didn't know they were into conspiracies. Granted, they're a right wing party with roots in Orthodox Christianity, but I never knew they were into conspiracies. I'll have a Greek answer that question.

I'd also like to point out that because ANEL is opposed to austerity, some have said that SYRIZA should team up with them. It won't happen, ANEL is very, very socially and culturally conservative.

Yeah, it would be a shocker if Syriza associated with the right-wing.
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Postby Busen » Sun Jan 25, 2015 3:45 pm

Acually if Syriza wants to abolish austerity policies than ANEL is more than a proper party.
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Postby Natapoc » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:00 pm

A coalition of Syriza and KKE would be a nice message to those in Europe and elsewhere who wish to make money on the backs of suffering Greek people. The greek anarchists taking power would be even better :)
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Gezi Park
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Postby Gezi Park » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:01 pm

Is there any website where I can view the results by constituency?
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PRO: Enviromentalism, State feminism, Anti-clericalism, Individualism, EU (including Turkey), PES, LGBT rights, abortion, Legalize It movement, Laïcité, Westernization, Gezi youth, Tamarod, Greek-Turkish sisterhood, Ataturk's ideals

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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:04 pm

New Unsociety wrote:
Southern Hampshire wrote:#HopeForGreekCoup

Junta all the way.


U mad bro?


Ye.

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
Southern Hampshire wrote:#HopeForGreekCoup

Junta all the way.


-Claims to support democracy
-Supports a junta

Your hypocrisy is incredibly amusing, and always makes me chuckle. Good on you, mate.


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Postby Lucasaer » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:05 pm

Southern Hampshire wrote:
New Unsociety wrote:
U mad bro?


Ye.

Liberty and Linguistics wrote:
-Claims to support democracy
-Supports a junta

Your hypocrisy is incredibly amusing, and always makes me chuckle. Good on you, mate.


Democracy only works when people aren't stupid. Sometimes authoritarianism is needed to put a country on the right path.

Hitler could have said that.
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Postby Lucasaer » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:06 pm

I believe that Syriza will team up with to Potami.
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Southern Hampshire
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Postby Southern Hampshire » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:07 pm

Lucasaer wrote:
Southern Hampshire wrote:
Ye.



Democracy only works when people aren't stupid. Sometimes authoritarianism is needed to put a country on the right path.

Hitler could have said that.


Yes he could. So did Stalin, Reagan, Che Guevara and Thatcher. I don't see the link, though.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:07 pm

Lucasaer wrote:
Southern Hampshire wrote:
Ye.



Democracy only works when people aren't stupid. Sometimes authoritarianism is needed to put a country on the right path.

Hitler could have said that.

It doesn't make the argument an inherently bad one.

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European Socialist Republic
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:08 pm

Busen wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:ANEL? Aren't those the conspiracy nuts?

No?

I always though they are some kind of a right-wing version of Syriza.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independ ... s#Policies

"He proclaimed a "national awakening and uprising", and supposed that Greece had fallen victim to an "international conspiracy"."
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Postby Lucasaer » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:10 pm

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Lucasaer wrote:Hitler could have said that.

It doesn't make the argument an inherently bad one.

Did it ever work out?
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Postby Jackonia » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:11 pm

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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:12 pm

Lucasaer wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:It doesn't make the argument an inherently bad one.

Did it ever work out?
Will a fascist Greece be succesful?

Fascism will never be succesful.
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Postby Lucasaer » Sun Jan 25, 2015 4:13 pm

Jackonia wrote:Vote for the 'National Hope' Party.

Right wing radicals?
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