Should they really be banned?

[Helertia]

Banned or exterminated same same!
Kill one person , they call you a murderer!
Kill two or more , they call you a Terrorist!
Kill thousands , they call you a Conquerer!

See, the difference between you and Islam4UK is that Islam4UK doesn't call for people's death. You do.

To be fair, Islam4UK did support 7/7 and threaten (well, "warn" but it was basically a threat) the government when there were anned for the third time.

[Angleter]

No. It's only served to give them free publicity.

[Dundee and Carlisle]

ANYONE!!!!, who plots the downfall and or disgracfulfy calls our soldiers, our heros, murderers, baby killers and rapists should be jailed. Not just their organisation banned.

[Helertia]

No. It's only served to give them free publicity.

Free publicity also gives them more opposition. A lot of people I know had never heard of them until recently, and now hate them. Couter protests should be quite a lot larger (at least in Devon. Although that might just the the ambient "AHHHH COLOURED PEOPLE!" attitude in Devon)

ANYONE!!!!, who plots the downfall and or disgracfulfy calls our soldiers, our heros, murderers, baby killers and rapists should be jailed. Not just their organisation banned.

They ARE murderers and rapists (not sure about baby killers) Between 92,489 and 100,971 Civilians have been killed in Iraq alone (thats an awful lot of people unnacounted for) It's an unfortunate fact that some of our soldiers behaved disgracefully.

[Dundee and Carlisle]

They ARE murderers and rapists (not sure about baby killers)

How dare you. You idiotic person, they fight for you and you call them that. Sure, some of them are but calling the soldiers in Luton that, then planning a march through Wooton Basset is abhorent. You should be ashamed of your comments.

[Helertia]

They ARE murderers and rapists (not sure about baby killers)

How dare you. You idiotic person, they fight for you and you call them that. Sure, some of them are but calling the soldiers in Luton that, then planning a march through Wooton Basset is abhorent. You should be ashamed of your comments.

I didn't ask them too. Okay, I admit, both an unfair generalisation and probably a little harsh. But there have been a LOT of incidents involving our soliders. Besides, they technically are murders, but then so are all soldiers

[Ifreann]

ANYONE!!!!, who plots the downfall and or disgracfulfy calls our soldiers, our heros, murderers, baby killers and rapists should be jailed. Not just their organisation banned.

No silly, the UK supports freedom of speech, even speech against your beloved soldiers. Get over it.

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How dare you. You idiotic person,

Don't flame people, you'll only end up getting banned.

they fight for you and you call them that. Sure, some of them are but calling the soldiers in Luton that, then planning a march through Wooton Basset is abhorent. You should be ashamed of your comments.

Being killers is the whole point of soldiers. That's what they're for, killing people. If anyone should be ashamed here I'd say it's you. You say the soldiers are fighting for the people in the UK, but you would violate the freedoms of those people. It seems your concern is not for what the soldiers fight and die for, but only for the idea of glorifying the military.

[Kobrania]

They ARE murderers and rapists (not sure about baby killers)

How dare you. You idiotic person, they fight for you and you call them that. Sure, some of them are but calling the soldiers in Luton that, then planning a march through Wooton Basset is abhorent. You should be ashamed of your comments.

Luton sucks, and Wooten Basset could use the entertainment.

[Hamilay]

Terrorist groups should be banned.

I don't know if this is a terrorist group per se, but it doesn't seem to be a clear-cut issue of free speech.

[Dundee and Carlisle]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

[Kobrania]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

WWI was an unjust war, conscripts forced to fight because of mismanagement of diplomatic policies.

And what freedoms do they want to take away?

You took away their right of free speech.

[Tagmatium]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

And where does it say we actually have to be patriotic? I don't remember making any pledges of alliegance or anything. Just because you live in this country, it doesn't mean that you have to support everything it does blindly, especially when it is going off on jaunts not whole hearted supported by the public.

And being lied about the reasons behind it.

[Helertia]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

Yes, it's unpatriotic, but blind patriotism is a bad thing. Who are you to talk of protecting freedoms when you support the invasion of other countries? Not only were the reasons for the invasion highly suspect (we are NOT going there) but we did large amouts of damage to homes, businesses and infrastructure, killed large amounts of civillians and pushed Iraq towards the dreaded Shariah law.
We don't have the moral highground. ALL our soldiers are not heros.

/end threadjack

[Dundee and Carlisle]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

WWI was an unjust war, conscripts forced to fight because of mismanagement of diplomatic policies.

And what freedoms do they want to take away?

Democracy, free speech, free press, freedom of religion, free demonstration etc. The list goes on.

[Kobrania]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

WWI was an unjust war, conscripts forced to fight because of mismanagement of diplomatic policies.

And what freedoms do they want to take away?

Democracy, free speech, free press, freedom of religion, free demonstration etc. The list goes on.

You took their right of free speech, religion, and their right to demonstrate.

You have no right to complain.

[Helertia]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

WWI was an unjust war, conscripts forced to fight because of mismanagement of diplomatic policies.

And what freedoms do they want to take away?

You took away their right of free speech.

Islam4UK wants to implement Shariah law in the UK, so he's actually right.
Golly, I hate both sides.

[Kobrania]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

WWI was an unjust war, conscripts forced to fight because of mismanagement of diplomatic policies.

And what freedoms do they want to take away?

You took away their right of free speech.

Islam4UK wants to implement Shariah law in the UK, so he's actually right.
Golly, I hate both sides.

Sharia law is a civilian court, which would be monitored and moderated by the Government.

[Dundee and Carlisle]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

WWI was an unjust war, conscripts forced to fight because of mismanagement of diplomatic policies.

And what freedoms do they want to take away?

Democracy, free speech, free press, freedom of religion, free demonstration etc. The list goes on.

You took their right of free speech, religion, and their right to demonstrate.

You have no right to complain.

An organisation and it's members who support the MURDER of BRITISH PEOPLE!! or any people are EVIL and SHOULD be jailed.

[Tagmatium]

Islam4UK wants to implement Shariah law in the UK, so he's actually right.
Golly, I hate both sides.

Sharia law is a civilian court, which would be monitored and moderated by the Government.

What, you'd rather there was both British law and Sharia law going on at the same time?

[Kobrania]

Islam4UK wants to implement Shariah law in the UK, so he's actually right.
Golly, I hate both sides.

Sharia law is a civilian court, which would be monitored and moderated by the Government.

What, you'd rather there was both British law and Sharia law going on at the same time?

Only if there were strict controls and the decision was unanimous. I actually believe in democracy.

[Helertia]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

WWI was an unjust war, conscripts forced to fight because of mismanagement of diplomatic policies.

And what freedoms do they want to take away?

You took away their right of free speech.

Islam4UK wants to implement Shariah law in the UK, so he's actually right.
Golly, I hate both sides.

Sharia law is a civilian court, which would be monitored and moderated by the Government.

I thought Shariah law was general law? Women in veils, homosexicals are ebil and all that jazz?
See, this is why I hate my RS class.

EDIT: No, it is general law "Sharia deals with many things, including politics, economics, banking, business, contracts, family, sexuality, hygiene, and social issues"
and Islam4UK want everyone to follow it, not just them, as far as I am aware.

Still hate my RS class tho. 4 racists. 4!

[Kobrania]

They are not. Calling our soldiers murderers is unpatriotic. YOU, should think about what you say becouse going by what you say, mine and hopefully your ancestors fought the Germans, North Koreans etc. to keep our freedoms, the very freedoms Islam4UK wants to take away. And I can tell you all my ancestors did was vote, fight in WW1 and WW2, be MP'S and work for the public. No murderers.

WWI was an unjust war, conscripts forced to fight because of mismanagement of diplomatic policies.

And what freedoms do they want to take away?

You took away their right of free speech.

Islam4UK wants to implement Shariah law in the UK, so he's actually right.
Golly, I hate both sides.

Sharia law is a civilian court, which would be monitored and moderated by the Government.

I thought Shariah law was general law? Women in veils, homosexicals are ebil and all that jazz?
See, this is why I hate my RS class.

The government wouldn't allow that to happen, because it would be unethical.

[Hamilay]

The government wouldn't allow that to happen, because it would be unethical.

hahahahahahahahahaha

Yes, I know it's out of context, but this still made me laugh.

[Helertia]

The government wouldn't allow that to happen, because it would be unethical.

Hasn't stopped them so far

[Tagmatium]

Islam4UK wants to implement Shariah law in the UK, so he's actually right.
Golly, I hate both sides.

Sharia law is a civilian court, which would be monitored and moderated by the Government.

What, you'd rather there was both British law and Sharia law going on at the same time?

Only if there were strict controls and the decision was unanimous. I actually believe in democracy.

Implying that I don't.

If, in the case that there was enough public support for the implementation of Sharia law, it was put into effect, the chances are there would be a Muslim majority, so it wouldn't matter.

I'm not saying that I think these people ought to be banned and not allowed to advocate the introduction of Sharia law, as I don't believe that. I'm somewhat disappointed with the decision to ban them, as I feel it can only boost their cause.

I was just surprised that it appeared that you were advocating it. I really don't know why people would, considering the legal system we currently have in place. But, I realise over the course of typing this post that you weren't saying that, so it basically doesn't matter, anyway.