Why feminism is wrong

[Ostroeuropa]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1EpWvLF ... wanalytics

Interesting breakdown of a feminist,MRA and Others reddit btw.
I post there on occasion. You can see the views and demographics and such.

(By the way: "Do you think the ideological breakdown of this reddit is conducive to discussion?")
The result:

Yes 50%
No 50%

Had me giggling.

[Hirota]

lolwot. Feminism no longer stands for equal opportunities as it operates under the notion that women are still oppressed, although I would say they were never oppressed really.

I've not watched the video, but based upon your premise that you posted later, you appear to be making the claim that because not all men could vote, women were not oppressed.

It's a broad claim that is difficult to debate as you could take a point in time, or a specific country and point at that example to prove or disprove anything, so hasty generalisations like this one you have made are not particularly helpful. I'd point to fairly recent changes which granted women the right to vote, such as Switzerland in 1971 (but only fully in 1990), and certain middle-eastern states more recently, as evidence that the claims made in this youtube video comment are inaccurate.

Equally I'd point to the early electoral system in the UK as an example to support these claims that most men couldn't vote, especially prior to the Reform Act of 1832. It's not a claim that can be supported or argued in a simple youtube video and it's certainly not one that can be debated as little effort as you have thus far.

I would argue that whilst being denied the vote is one aspect used as an example of oppression, it certainly isn't the sole example.

Oh, right. Hi Ostro.

Swing and a miss. Nice to know you act the same with others too though. At least when you think they are me.

I thought it was relatively obvious to anyone with a capacity for rational common sense and knew you at all that A) You don't hide behind an alias to present your opinions, and B) you normally take the time to write an actual response rather than the one-line trash some other people write.

[BlueVelvet]

Feminism is right, women should be able to do whatever men can, and there should be no judging.

[Securitan]

Feminism is right, women should be able to do whatever men can, and there should be no judging.

Hey you I'm going to do the thread a favor. Instead of starting a whole new argument, why don't you browse through the rest of the thread and come back with refutations for everything. I'd love to see fresh stuff.

[Skappola]

I'm fine with most ideas which moderate feminists hold, but I hate the community. In my experience, many feminists have the habit of aggressively restating rhetoric while giving out numerous incorrect or half-correct arguments for legitimate positions. This is entirely anecdotal, and I'm aware this could be a vocal minority, but I will say that the feminist movement is in desperate need of PR improvement. As it stands, the mainstream varieties of feminism have failed to successfully communicate the difference between them and the more radical groups, creating the negative perception a large portion of the US holds towards them. (I'm specifically referring to the US because I'm not very knowledgeable about feminist movements outside of the US)

[Scomagia]

I'm fine with most ideas which moderate feminists hold, but I hate the community. In my experience, many feminists have the habit of aggressively restating rhetoric while giving out numerous incorrect or half-correct arguments for legitimate positions. This is entirely anecdotal, and I'm aware this could be a vocal minority, but I will say that the feminist movement is in desperate need of PR improvement. As it stands, the mainstream varieties of feminism have failed to successfully communicate the difference between them and the more radical groups, creating the negative perception a large portion of the US holds towards them. (I'm specifically referring to the US because I'm not very knowledgeable about feminist movements outside of the US)

The problem actually is that many people are Feminists, they just don't identify as such. Those that do are often hardliners and somewhat delusional, as is the case with most ideologies. Feminism doesn't so much need a makeover as it needs the average Feminist, who may not be aware that they are a Feminist, to be more vocal and to retake the movement.

[Skappola]

I'm fine with most ideas which moderate feminists hold, but I hate the community. In my experience, many feminists have the habit of aggressively restating rhetoric while giving out numerous incorrect or half-correct arguments for legitimate positions. This is entirely anecdotal, and I'm aware this could be a vocal minority, but I will say that the feminist movement is in desperate need of PR improvement. As it stands, the mainstream varieties of feminism have failed to successfully communicate the difference between them and the more radical groups, creating the negative perception a large portion of the US holds towards them. (I'm specifically referring to the US because I'm not very knowledgeable about feminist movements outside of the US)

The problem actually is that many people are Feminists, they just don't identify as such. Those that do are often hardliners and somewhat delusional, as is the case with most ideologies. Feminism doesn't so much need a makeover as it needs the average Feminist, who may not be aware that they are a Feminist, to be more vocal and to retake the movement.

But this won't happen unless the current mainstream feminist movement is able to advertize itself as a regular movement for gender equality and not as a passive-aggressive crusade against males.

[Keyboard Warriors]

The problem actually is that many people are Feminists, they just don't identify as such. Those that do are often hardliners and somewhat delusional, as is the case with most ideologies. Feminism doesn't so much need a makeover as it needs the average Feminist, who may not be aware that they are a Feminist, to be more vocal and to retake the movement.

But this won't happen unless the current mainstream feminist movement is able to advertize itself as a regular movement for gender equality and not as a passive-aggressive crusade against males.

The current mainstream feminist movement is quite content with raising and dealing with issues of gender based discrimination, most of which circle around the idea that women are inherently weaker than men and need to be treated differently as such. Getting people to identify as feminists is far less important.

[Ostroeuropa]

But this won't happen unless the current mainstream feminist movement is able to advertize itself as a regular movement for gender equality and not as a passive-aggressive crusade against males.

The current mainstream feminist movement is quite content with raising and dealing with issues of gender based discrimination, most of which circle around the idea that women are inherently weaker than men and need to be treated differently as such. Getting people to identify as feminists is far less important.

Source for most of them circling around that idea and not say, circling around the idea that males have to act a certain way or else they are defective. Oh. That's right. Blind faith and assertion.
I'd say that discrimination circles around the idea that women are entitled to special treatment. Not that they get treated that way.
But that they DEMAND to be treated that way. Most women are sexist. This should not shock you.


Oh, and here by the way is a good article about how SJW's are responsible for the rise of PUA's and redpillers.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/ra ... manceless/

[Keyboard Warriors]

The current mainstream feminist movement is quite content with raising and dealing with issues of gender based discrimination, most of which circle around the idea that women are inherently weaker than men and need to be treated differently as such. Getting people to identify as feminists is far less important.

Source for most of them circling around that idea and not say, circling around the idea that males have to act a certain way or else they are defective. Oh. That's right. Blind faith and assertion.

Have you any sources which show the majority percentage of women demanding that men act a certain way?

I'd say that discrimination circles around the idea that women are entitled to special treatment.

Have you any sources which show that the majority percentage of women feel they are entitled to special treatment?

Not that they get treated that way. But that they DEMAND to be treated that way.

Have you any sources which show that the majority percentage of women demand special treatment?

Most women are sexist.

Have you any sources to suggest that most women are sexist?

This should not shock you.

Have you any sources to suggest why I should not be shocked?

Oh, and here by the way is a good article about how SJW's are responsible for the rise of PUA's and redpillers.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/ra ... manceless/

Cool. Here's a good article about the new McLaren F1 car.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31146330

[Shaggai]

The current mainstream feminist movement is quite content with raising and dealing with issues of gender based discrimination, most of which circle around the idea that women are inherently weaker than men and need to be treated differently as such. Getting people to identify as feminists is far less important.

Source for most of them circling around that idea and not say, circling around the idea that males have to act a certain way or else they are defective. Oh. That's right. Blind faith and assertion.
I'd say that discrimination circles around the idea that women are entitled to special treatment. Not that they get treated that way.
But that they DEMAND to be treated that way. Most women are sexist. This should not shock you.


Oh, and here by the way is a good article about how SJW's are responsible for the rise of PUA's and redpillers.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/ra ... manceless/

Here is a good article, which, among other things, explains that women are, in fact, disadvantaged in our society.

(Also, the idea that women and men are both responsible for upholding gender roles is not a new one, nor does it disprove feminism. It's also known as "internalized misogyny", which is a bad term but still refers to a worthwhile concept.)

[Ostroeuropa]

Source for most of them circling around that idea and not say, circling around the idea that males have to act a certain way or else they are defective. Oh. That's right. Blind faith and assertion.

Have you any sources which show the majority percentage of women demanding that men act a certain way?

I'd say that discrimination circles around the idea that women are entitled to special treatment.

Have you any sources which show that the majority percentage of women feel they are entitled to special treatment?

Not that they get treated that way. But that they DEMAND to be treated that way.

Have you any sources which show that the majority percentage of women demand special treatment?

Most women are sexist.

Have you any sources to suggest that most women are sexist?

This should not shock you.

Have you any sources to suggest why I should not be shocked?

Oh, and here by the way is a good article about how SJW's are responsible for the rise of PUA's and redpillers.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/ra ... manceless/

Cool. Here's a good article about the new McLaren F1 car.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31146330

Well, I could point out that only 23% of women are feminists.
So you're kind of fucked here.
Which is it.
Are they not sexist and not feminist, or are they majority sexist?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 94917.html

You can't have it both ways.
Either feminism is not the same thing as not being a sexist, or most women are in fact sexist.
SO I provided my source and you didn't, just threw a demand for sources back at me.
I think it's clear you are an ideologue who doesn't care what's actually true.

Source for most of them circling around that idea and not say, circling around the idea that males have to act a certain way or else they are defective. Oh. That's right. Blind faith and assertion.
I'd say that discrimination circles around the idea that women are entitled to special treatment. Not that they get treated that way.
But that they DEMAND to be treated that way. Most women are sexist. This should not shock you.


Oh, and here by the way is a good article about how SJW's are responsible for the rise of PUA's and redpillers.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/ra ... manceless/

Here is a good article, which, among other things, explains that women are, in fact, disadvantaged in our society.

(Also, the idea that women and men are both responsible for upholding gender roles is not a new one, nor does it disprove feminism. It's also known as "internalized misogyny", which is a bad term but still refers to a worthwhile concept.)

I'm not denying women have some disadvantages.
I'm denying they have it worse than men.
And i'm denying a gynocentric narrative will fix those disadvantages for women, which are a result of misandry, not misogyny.
Most of the complaints in that study are about money.
That's because it's not a womans job to earn money in our society. Whining about how they aren't given as much money ignores that they have lots of shit paid for for them.
It's a white person complaining that blacks pick more cotton than they do, and ignoring where it ends up.
And whining about how they aren't seen as good cotton pickers, and this hurts their self-esteem.
Well, theres a way to fix that you know.
Stop enslaving black people.

That's an extreme example obviously. But none of what you showed actually demonstrates oppression. Only that men are seen as workhorses and women are not.

And that's before you get into the fact that 18-30, males earn less than females.
The paygap is a result of bygone eras. You can't expect women above 30 to benefit from policies enacted now. They lack the socioeconomic means to benefit from the changes.
But what you can expect is the endless whining of feminists to make the CURRENT pay gap even larger by privileging females even more.

So your article is completely off the mark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%9CW ... %9D_effect

This shows clearly that the feminist narrative is completely ass backwards. Misogyny isn't the problem.
In fact, by endlessly braying "YOU JUST HATE WOMEN!!!" they are making the problem worse by consistently implying the solution to womens problems is to care more about women.
It isn't.
That's the cause of their problems. The way to fix them would be to say "Women are adults and don't require your affectionate protection, but that man over there is in dire straights and could use your assistance."
But will they do it? Will they fuck.

[Keyboard Warriors]

Have you any sources which show the majority percentage of women demanding that men act a certain way?

Have you any sources which show that the majority percentage of women feel they are entitled to special treatment?

Have you any sources which show that the majority percentage of women demand special treatment?

Have you any sources to suggest that most women are sexist?

Have you any sources to suggest why I should not be shocked?


Cool. Here's a good article about the new McLaren F1 car.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31146330

Well, I could point out that only 23% of women are feminists.
So you're kind of fucked here.
Which is it.
Are they not sexist and not feminist, or are they majority sexist?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 94917.html

You can't have it both ways.
Either feminism is not the same thing as not being a sexist, or most women are in fact sexist.

This is the most messed up logic that I've ever seen in my life. Christ, it even says in the title of that article you posted that "most believe in equality" which blows your claim of women being sexist to shit. How you read that and still decided to pose this weird logical conundrum is something that I'm never going to be able to wrap my head around. God damn.

[Ostroeuropa]

Well, I could point out that only 23% of women are feminists.
So you're kind of fucked here.
Which is it.
Are they not sexist and not feminist, or are they majority sexist?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 94917.html

You can't have it both ways.
Either feminism is not the same thing as not being a sexist, or most women are in fact sexist.

This is the most fucked up logic that I've ever seen in my life. Christ, it even says in the title of that article you posted that "most believe in equality" which blows your claim of women being sexist to shit. How you read that and still decided to pose this weird logical conundrum is something that I'm never going to be able to wrap my head around. God damn.

So you're accepting that feminism isn't the same thing as not being a sexist then. That's good to hear.

[Ostroeuropa]

Well, I could point out that only 23% of women are feminists.
So you're kind of fucked here.
Which is it.
Are they not sexist and not feminist, or are they majority sexist?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 94917.html

You can't have it both ways.
Either feminism is not the same thing as not being a sexist, or most women are in fact sexist.

This is the most fucked up logic that I've ever seen in my life. Christ, it even says in the title of that article you posted that "most believe in equality" which blows your claim of women being sexist to shit. How you read that and still decided to pose this weird logical conundrum is something that I'm never going to be able to wrap my head around. God damn.

Basically, i'm pointing out that you cannot possibly be right.
I can still be right.
You definately aren't.

Either those women aren't actually egalitarian and are sexists.
Or, feminism isn't the same thing as not being a sexist and they actually are egalitarian.

Now i'm trying to find that study which shows something, so hold on.

[Ostroeuropa]

Here we go.

http://runsonmagic.com/2014/04/study-misogyny-sexism/

Basically those women claiming to support equality?
It's bollocks.
They oppose misogyny, but are totally on board with misandry.

[Keyboard Warriors]

This is the most fucked up logic that I've ever seen in my life. Christ, it even says in the title of that article you posted that "most believe in equality" which blows your claim of women being sexist to shit. How you read that and still decided to pose this weird logical conundrum is something that I'm never going to be able to wrap my head around. God damn.

Basically, i'm pointing out that you cannot possibly be right.
I can still be right.
You definately aren't.

Either those women aren't actually egalitarian and are sexists.
Or, feminism isn't the same thing as not being a sexist and they actually are egalitarian.

Now i'm trying to find that study which shows something, so hold on.

Basically, you're using weird semantical and logical gymnastics to extrapolate some sort of argument about how feminists are opposed to equality using the number 23. I'm not interested, but thanks anyway.

[Ostroeuropa]

Although there is a reliably positive association between hostile (HS) and benevolent sexism (BS), lay perceptions of this association have not been directly tested. I predicted that people perceive an illusory negative association between men’s HS and BS attitudes because lay theories expect men to have univalent attitudes toward women. In Study 1, I manipulated the target’s gender and responses on a subscale of the Ambivalent Sexism Inventory (high HS, low HS, high BS, or low BS). The low BS male target (compared to high BS male target) was judged to be higher on HS, less supportive of female professionals, less good of father and husband, and more likely to perpetrate domestic violence. [emphasis added] Ratings of the low BS male target were as equally negative as those of the high HS male target. In Study 2, low BS male targets were judged to be low in hostility towards women only if they explicitly stated that their low BS was motivated by egalitarian values, otherwise men’s low BS was assumed to indicate misogyny. Implications of the misconception of BS in men and future directions are discussed.

You can tell that the sexism against males is rampant even from the terms "Benevolent sexism" and such.
Not very benevolent for the males involved, is it.

So that's my source.
Gonna show yours, or not?

[Scomagia]

The current mainstream feminist movement is quite content with raising and dealing with issues of gender based discrimination, most of which circle around the idea that women are inherently weaker than men and need to be treated differently as such. Getting people to identify as feminists is far less important.

Source for most of them circling around that idea and not say, circling around the idea that males have to act a certain way or else they are defective. Oh. That's right. Blind faith and assertion.
I'd say that discrimination circles around the idea that women are entitled to special treatment. Not that they get treated that way.
But that they DEMAND to be treated that way. Most women are sexist. This should not shock you.


Oh, and here by the way is a good article about how SJW's are responsible for the rise of PUA's and redpillers.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/ra ... manceless/

You are quite fond of stereotypes, aren't ya? The truly amusing thing here is that the bolded statement is, in itself, sexist. Ah prejudice, thy name is Ostroeuropa.

[Ostroeuropa]

Source for most of them circling around that idea and not say, circling around the idea that males have to act a certain way or else they are defective. Oh. That's right. Blind faith and assertion.
I'd say that discrimination circles around the idea that women are entitled to special treatment. Not that they get treated that way.
But that they DEMAND to be treated that way. Most women are sexist. This should not shock you.


Oh, and here by the way is a good article about how SJW's are responsible for the rise of PUA's and redpillers.
http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/ra ... manceless/

You are quite fond of stereotypes, aren't ya? The truly amusing thing here is that the bolded statement is, in itself, sexist. Ah prejudice, thy name is Ostroeuropa.

Not really. Most men are sexist too.
You think acknowledging sexism is sexist. Nope.

Suppose it were true Scomagia, that most women were sexists.
How could it possibly be sexist to point this out?
That's right, it couldn't be. So you're talking bollocks. You're just refusing to acknowledge that women as a class have some nefarious things about the way they conduct themselves, because women are obviously angels and incapable of such a thing.
That's pretty sexist of you, ironically.
It's that kind of attitude that makes it so women aren't seen as able to make it in the cutthroat world of business and such, because they're just too innocent for it.
Nope. They're just as shitty as men are. At least I acknowledge it.

[Scomagia]

You are quite fond of stereotypes, aren't ya? The truly amusing thing here is that the bolded statement is, in itself, sexist. Ah prejudice, thy name is Ostroeuropa.

Not really. Most men are sexist too.
You think acknowledging sexism is sexist. Nope.

Suppose it were true Scomagia, that most women were sexists.
How could it possibly be sexist to point this out?
That's right, it couldn't be. So you're talking bollocks. You're just refusing to acknowledge that women as a class have some nefarious things about the way they conduct themselves, because women are obviously angels and incapable of such a thing.
That's pretty sexist of you, ironically.

I'm talking bollocks? I'm not the one making blatant, sweeping statements like "Most women and men are sexist". It's horseshit and until you offer up some evidence, it'll remain horseshit.

Nice strawman, by the by. I love when inferior debaters take what I say and pervert it into what they want me to have said.

[Ostroeuropa]

Not really. Most men are sexist too.
You think acknowledging sexism is sexist. Nope.

Suppose it were true Scomagia, that most women were sexists.
How could it possibly be sexist to point this out?
That's right, it couldn't be. So you're talking bollocks. You're just refusing to acknowledge that women as a class have some nefarious things about the way they conduct themselves, because women are obviously angels and incapable of such a thing.
That's pretty sexist of you, ironically.

I'm talking bollocks? I'm not the one making blatant, sweeping statements like "Most women and men are sexist". It's horseshit and until you offer up some evidence, it'll remain horseshit.

Nice strawman, by the by. I love when inferior debaters take what I say and pervert it into what they want me to have said.

Society is sexist. Are you suggesting it's a minority of people causing all these systemic problems? Don't be naive.
It isn't a strawman. It's me pointing out you are engaging in sexism.
It's because of people like you that women aren't seen as capable in the cutthroat world of business and such, they're just too innocent.
Nope, they're as shitty as men are.
So while pretending to defend women, you're actually just causing all the problems they complain about, and also propping up the problems they cause for males.
You and them are sexists in cahoots.
The bad thing is you think you are egalitarian.
Coupled with most women being in favor of benevolent sexism such as yours, and you've got a recipe for a clusterfuck. (See study above.)

[Scomagia]

I'm talking bollocks? I'm not the one making blatant, sweeping statements like "Most women and men are sexist". It's horseshit and until you offer up some evidence, it'll remain horseshit.

Nice strawman, by the by. I love when inferior debaters take what I say and pervert it into what they want me to have said.

Society is sexist. Are you suggesting it's a minority of people causing all these systemic problems? Don't be naive.
It isn't a strawman. It's me pointing out you are engaging in sexism.
It's because of people like you that women aren't seen as capable in the cutthroat world of business and such, they're just too innocent.
Nope, they're a shitty as men are.
So while pretending to defend women, you're actually just causing all the problems they complain about, and also propping up the problems they cause for males.
You and them are sexists in cahoots.
The bad thing is you think you are egalitarian.
Coupled with most women being in favor of benevolent sexism such as yours, and you've got a recipe for a clusterfuck. (See study above.)

It is a strawman because I flat never said anything about the innocence of women. Grow the fuck up and stop attacking arguments that haven't actually been made.

Actually, I don't give a damn what you do. I remember now why you were on my block-list, and I think you're going to stay there. Have fun attacking strawmen. It's what you're good at.

[Ostroeuropa]

Society is sexist. Are you suggesting it's a minority of people causing all these systemic problems? Don't be naive.
It isn't a strawman. It's me pointing out you are engaging in sexism.
It's because of people like you that women aren't seen as capable in the cutthroat world of business and such, they're just too innocent.
Nope, they're a shitty as men are.
So while pretending to defend women, you're actually just causing all the problems they complain about, and also propping up the problems they cause for males.
You and them are sexists in cahoots.
The bad thing is you think you are egalitarian.
Coupled with most women being in favor of benevolent sexism such as yours, and you've got a recipe for a clusterfuck. (See study above.)

It is a strawman because I flat never said anything about the innocence of women. Grow the fuck up and stop attacking arguments that haven't actually been made.

Actually, I don't give a damn what you do. I remember now why you were on my block-list, and I think you're going to stay there. Have fun attacking strawmen. It's what you're good at.

Sure. You just denied they were doing anything wrong and attacked someone as sexist for suggesting they were. (Just like the study says.)
Totes different than arguing innocence.

[Alyakia]

Have you any sources which show the majority percentage of women demanding that men act a certain way?

Have you any sources which show that the majority percentage of women feel they are entitled to special treatment?

Have you any sources which show that the majority percentage of women demand special treatment?

Have you any sources to suggest that most women are sexist?

Have you any sources to suggest why I should not be shocked?


Cool. Here's a good article about the new McLaren F1 car.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/31146330

Well, I could point out that only 23% of women are feminists.
So you're kind of fucked here.
Which is it.
Are they not sexist and not feminist, or are they majority sexist?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/1 ... 94917.html

You can't have it both ways.
Either feminism is not the same thing as not being a sexist, or most women are in fact sexist.
SO I provided my source and you didn't, just threw a demand for sources back at me.
I think it's clear you are an ideologue who doesn't care what's actually true.

Here is a good article, which, among other things, explains that women are, in fact, disadvantaged in our society.

(Also, the idea that women and men are both responsible for upholding gender roles is not a new one, nor does it disprove feminism. It's also known as "internalized misogyny", which is a bad term but still refers to a worthwhile concept.)

I'm not denying women have some disadvantages.
I'm denying they have it worse than men.
And i'm denying a gynocentric narrative will fix those disadvantages for women, which are a result of misandry, not misogyny.
Most of the complaints in that study are about money.
That's because it's not a womans job to earn money in our society. Whining about how they aren't given as much money ignores that they have lots of shit paid for for them.
It's a white person complaining that blacks pick more cotton than they do, and ignoring where it ends up.
And whining about how they aren't seen as good cotton pickers, and this hurts their self-esteem.
Well, theres a way to fix that you know.
Stop enslaving black people.

That's an extreme example obviously. But none of what you showed actually demonstrates oppression. Only that men are seen as workhorses and women are not.

And that's before you get into the fact that 18-30, males earn less than females.
The paygap is a result of bygone eras. You can't expect women above 30 to benefit from policies enacted now. They lack the socioeconomic means to benefit from the changes.
But what you can expect is the endless whining of feminists to make the CURRENT pay gap even larger by privileging females even more.

So your article is completely off the mark.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E2%80%9CW ... %9D_effect

This shows clearly that the feminist narrative is completely ass backwards. Misogyny isn't the problem.
In fact, by endlessly braying "YOU JUST HATE WOMEN!!!" they are making the problem worse by consistently implying the solution to womens problems is to care more about women.
It isn't.
That's the cause of their problems. The way to fix them would be to say "Women are adults and don't require your affectionate protection, but that man over there is in dire straights and could use your assistance."
But will they do it? Will they fuck.

would it blow your mind were i tell you that, yes, most men and women do indeed hold sexist views? even about their own sex?