US/Cuba to Begin Talks

[Buse]

Except we have actually found Nazi war criminals and thus it is a successful endeavour. The embargo is not. And I didn't know all liberals said Israel does not exist. Great unfounded generalization.

Not is not. Nobody knows what happened to dr. Mengele. Embargo is successuful, I explained in the previous site of this thread.

You're comparing policies that have worked to a useless policy.

So, nationalising property is useless policy?

[Buse]

How about you and all your anti-Cuba buddies move to Texas, secede from the Union, and make your own embargo? Then the rest of us can be done with the Cold War.

I am personally not anti-Cuban but anti-Castro. Unless you count everybody who is against the Cuban gov same as being against the nation. Which would be typicall liberal and for left-wingers also.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Except we have actually found Nazi war criminals and thus it is a successful endeavour. The embargo is not. And I didn't know all liberals said Israel does not exist. Great unfounded generalization.

Not is not. Nobody knows what happened to dr. Mengele. Embargo is successuful, I explained in the previous site of this thread.

You're comparing policies that have worked to a useless policy.

So, nationalising property is useless policy?

Nationalizing property can be useful, depending on what is it you're trying to achieve.

Embargo of an entire nation who doesn't need you to survive it's kind of stupid.

[Buse]

Nationalizing property can be useful, depending on what is it you're trying to achieve.

Embargo of an entire nation who doesn't need you to survive it's kind of stupid.

Nationalizing property per se is not something bad, bud when you nationalise something than you have to give the money to the previous owners. Castros mafia state did not do that and that is the problem.

from American side the embargo on Cuba does not have any influence on our economy, but it do on the Cuban. It helped the Cuban opposition.

[Degenerate Heart of HetRio]

Are you saying they are homosexual?

I recently learned this one.

In Portuguese we say casa do caralho ("home of random cock"), but it's used to remote or far away places in general.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Except we have actually found Nazi war criminals and thus it is a successful endeavour. The embargo is not. And I didn't know all liberals said Israel does not exist. Great unfounded generalization.

Not is not. Nobody knows what happened to dr. Mengele. Embargo is successuful, I explained in the previous site of this thread.

You're comparing policies that have worked to a useless policy.

So, nationalising property is useless policy?

That is one unknown amid numerous successful apprehensions. The only thing the American embargo has done is Jack up prices on otherwise cheap cigars. In otherwords, a general failure. It has done nothing to destabilize the regime.

[Buse]

Is it true that the Vatican diplomacy is the major architekt for this relaxing of US-Cuban relationship?

[Conserative Morality]

Is it true that the Vatican diplomacy is the major architekt for this relaxing of US-Cuban relationship?

I've heard the Pope has acted as a mediator

Wednesday's announcements follow more than a year of secret talks in Canada and at the Vatican, directly involving Pope Francis.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Is it true that the Vatican diplomacy is the major architekt for this relaxing of US-Cuban relationship?

You could say that.

The pope sent letters to both President Obama and Raul Castro to get together and talk. I am not sure why he thought it was necessary.

[Nazi Flower Power]

Is it true that the Vatican diplomacy is the major architekt for this relaxing of US-Cuban relationship?

You could say that.

The pope sent letters to both President Obama and Raul Castro to get together and talk. I am not sure why he thought it was necessary.

Maybe it's part of his efforts to help the poor, since the embargo is bad for the Cuban economy? Or just a general desire to promote peace and goodwill among mankind?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You could say that.

The pope sent letters to both President Obama and Raul Castro to get together and talk. I am not sure why he thought it was necessary.

Maybe it's part of his efforts to help the poor, since the embargo is bad for the Cuban economy? Or just a general desire to promote peace and goodwill among mankind?

Perhaps, it could be also that he was looking at it and he, knowing what happened with John Paul II and Fidel (he was there when they both talked back in the 90s) he wanted to put his weight in as Latin American. If anything the Castros and the Vatican have not had a good relationship since Castro tried to implement state atheism, but the Vatican remained popular given the fact that the population is majorly Catholic.

[Glorious KASSRD]

nationalized property
>all of sudden "comiteed atrocities"

lol

Yes. The thing is that all American citizens left the island. some would even dare to call it etnical cleanings.

Kicking out the citizens of the nations that want you dead? I would call that being not a complete idiot.

[Buse]

Is it true that the Vatican diplomacy is the major architekt for this relaxing of US-Cuban relationship?

You could say that.

The pope sent letters to both President Obama and Raul Castro to get together and talk. I am not sure why he thought it was necessary.

From what I read in the media Pope Francis intiated the wholw thing by sending the letters. Just wanted to hear the opinion of NSG liberals.

Interestingly how nobody mentions it while there is often topics of the ebul Church.

[Buse]

You could say that.

The pope sent letters to both President Obama and Raul Castro to get together and talk. I am not sure why he thought it was necessary.

Maybe it's part of his efforts to help the poor, since the embargo is bad for the Cuban economy? Or just a general desire to promote peace and goodwill among mankind?

I would say it has to do that his holliness comes from Latin America which is indeed a good step what ge did (becaise of his motives).

On other hand he neglects the bad conditions of Christians in Syria and Bosnia which is bad. Especially that he is suposed in good connection with the argentine Croats.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You could say that.

The pope sent letters to both President Obama and Raul Castro to get together and talk. I am not sure why he thought it was necessary.

From what I read in the media Pope Francis intiated the wholw thing by sending the letters. Just wanted to hear the opinion of NSG liberals.

Interestingly how nobody mentions it while there is often topics of the ebul Church.

I was going to say it an knew about it since around 3 days ago, but I was waiting if someone else picked up on it before I was the one who said that.

[Buse]

Yes. The thing is that all American citizens left the island. some would even dare to call it etnical cleanings.

Kicking out the citizens of the nations that want you dead? I would call that being not a complete idiot.

So when Americans kicked out Indians it was good according to you.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Maybe it's part of his efforts to help the poor, since the embargo is bad for the Cuban economy? Or just a general desire to promote peace and goodwill among mankind?

I would say it has to do that his holliness comes from Latin America which is indeed a good step what ge did (becaise of his motives).

On other hand he neglects the bad conditions of Christians in Syria and Bosnia which is bad. Especially that he is suposed in good connection with the argentine Croats.

This clearly proves we need a Bosnian and Middle Eastern pope. *nods*

[Greater Miami Shores]

Not is not. Nobody knows what happened to dr. Mengele. Embargo is successuful, I explained in the previous site of this thread.


So, nationalising property is useless policy?

That is one unknown amid numerous successful apprehensions. The only thing the American embargo has done is Jack up prices on otherwise cheap cigars. In otherwords, a general failure. It has done nothing to destabilize the regime.

And trade, money $, loans, credits, tourists, and engagement by Canada and the EU nations have done nothing to destabilize the regime.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

That is one unknown amid numerous successful apprehensions. The only thing the American embargo has done is Jack up prices on otherwise cheap cigars. In otherwords, a general failure. It has done nothing to destabilize the regime.

And trade, money $, loans, credits, tourists, and engagement by Canada and the EU nations have done nothing to destabilize the regime.

It is foolish to keep doing something that isn't obviously working, for 50 years, over and over and expect different results. That is what the embargo is. Foolish.

[Buse]

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I was going to say it an knew about it since around 3 days ago, but I was waiting if someone else picked up on it before I was the one who said that.

Well nobody would mention it. It is not what liberals could bash the Church.

[Greater Miami Shores]

And trade, money $, loans, credits, tourists, and engagement by Canada and the EU nations have done nothing to destabilize the regime.

It is foolish to keep doing something that isn't obviously working, for 50 years, over and over and expect different results. That is what the embargo is. Foolish.

And trade, money $, loans, credits, tourists, and engagement by Canada and the EU nations have done nothing to destabilize the regime.
And this so called new approach that has not worked is foolish.

[Buse]

This clearly proves we need a Herzeg-BosnianBosnian and Middle Eastern pope. *nods*

Fixed (though the article is preety much biased).

During the last conclave I was in favout of him.

[Scomagia]

It is foolish to keep doing something that isn't obviously working, for 50 years, over and over and expect different results. That is what the embargo is. Foolish.

And trade, money $, loans, credits, tourists, and engagement by Canada and the EU nations have done nothing to destabilize the regime.
And this so called new approach that has not worked is foolish.

So what, you're mad because Canada and the EU don't blindly do what America does? They have no obligation not to trade with Cuba, not mention there's no reason for them not to trade with Cuba.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It is foolish to keep doing something that isn't obviously working, for 50 years, over and over and expect different results. That is what the embargo is. Foolish.

And trade, money $, loans, credits, tourists, and engagement by Canada and the EU nations have done nothing to destabilize the regime.
And this so called new approach that has not worked is foolish.

Can we just agree that this move at least is good on a foreign relations perspective to not make the United States look like sanctimonious pricks in Latin America? I mean, that's sort of what Francis has in mind, I'd think.

You have to remember the United States is being kept at arm's length by the Latin American nations in regards of Foreign Policy and hemispheric matters. This would only bolster our position in Latin America by proving we're willing to work with other nations politically, and not just economically. It's also a good thing at a security level, and Castro isn't getting out of the deal without a concession, so far there's already news he's going to open up the internet in Cuba.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

This clearly proves we need a Herzeg-BosnianBosnian and Middle Eastern pope. *nods*

Fixed (though the article is preety much biased).

During the last conclave I was in favout of him.

A pope from Ghana would be nice. It'd put them in the map and be quite refreshing in the fact it'd break from the line of succession only being taken by the West.