US/Cuba to Begin Talks

[Parti Ouvrier]

Seriously?

I mean, they've personally survived quite well for over half of a century now without anything like that, and have managed to blame the sufferings of the Cuban people on us in the process. What exactly are we offering as a carrot, here?

We released three spies, one of whom is a convicted murderer.

What did we get? 53 political prisoners released. But you know what? If those 53 go out tomorrow and start calling for an end to the Castro regime, they are going right back in jail.

Then the deal is broken and all the consequences that come with it, thus, they're not going to send them to jail. Cuba is very much negotiating from a position of weakness, how can you not see that?

[Communist Volkstrad]

So does any one know if they just lifted it because it didn't make since in the first place or if there's a hidden motive.

There's always an ulterior motive behind a country's actions.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Seriously?

I mean, they've personally survived quite well for over half of a century now without anything like that, and have managed to blame the sufferings of the Cuban people on us in the process. What exactly are we offering as a carrot, here?

We released three spies, one of whom is a convicted murderer.

What did we get? 53 political prisoners released. But you know what? If those 53 go out tomorrow and start calling for an end to the Castro regime, they are going right back in jail.

Wow, if only we had something that they could gain by not doing that, and lose if they did that.

Oh, wait.

Now we do.

[Parti Ouvrier]

So does any one know if they just lifted it because it didn't make since in the first place or if there's a hidden motive.

There's always an ulterior motive behind a country's actions.

Well, the timing is auspicious, Castro is on his deathbed (as is Cuban style socialism), and Obama is thinking about his legacy.

[Communist Volkstrad]

There's always an ulterior motive behind a country's actions.

Well, the timing is auspicious, Castro is on his deathbed and Obama is thinking about his legacy.

My point exactly.

[Rio Cana]

So does any one know if they just lifted it because it didn't make since in the first place or if there's a hidden motive.

There's always an ulterior motive behind a country's actions.

Commercially speaking, Florida will gain plenty and the following states of Texas, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi will also gain.

See this map and you shall see
https://www.welt-atlas.de/datenbank/kar ... -8-957.gif

[Communist Volkstrad]

There's always an ulterior motive behind a country's actions.

Commercially speaking, Florida will gain plenty and the following states of Texas, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi will also gain.

See this map and you shall see
https://www.welt-atlas.de/datenbank/kar ... -8-957.gif

I know we're getting something out of it. I was responding to the question asked. We aren't ending it just because it wasn't working, we're ending it because of that and the fact that we gain from it.

[Rio Cana]

So the question to ask, will the Florida to Cuba bridge or tunnel be built. Before the US and Cuba broke relations 56 years ago, there had always been talk of a Florida to Cuba bridge or tunnel connection.

The following story, fiction, writes how a tunnel might have been built.
http://www.changingthetimes.net/samples ... tunnel.htm

[Geilinor]

I just realized something. Better relations with Cuba could allow Cubans to move to America, so why are Cuban-Americans against this?

[Glorious KASSRD]

There's always an ulterior motive behind a country's actions.

Commercially speaking, Florida will gain plenty and the following states of Texas, Louisiana, Alabama and Mississippi will also gain.

See this map and you shall see
https://www.welt-atlas.de/datenbank/kar ... -8-957.gif

Texas gains too! This just keeps getting better.

[Kubra]

Dude, just drive across the border and stock up if you like vanilla Coke. $4 a can is ridiculous.

Not true. In NYC, you get it for the same $1 - $1.25 as other sodas.

Yeah, but that's stateside. We're talking canadian prices.

[Ripoll]

I believe that, until Cuba transitions into a free-market democracy, there should be no let up of sanctions.

Obama is making a really bad mistake.

So, promoting the free market by refusing the participation in a free market?

Fucking for virginity much?

Framing quote on my wall, absolutely fucking brilliant

[Herrebrugh]

So, promoting the free market by refusing the participation in a free market?

Fucking for virginity much?

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Framing quote on my wall, absolutely fucking brilliant :clap: :clap: :clap:

:bow: :bow: :bow:

A tip: using more than a few smilies makes you look very young. Too young to be visiting this site. Beside which it is simply regarded as spam.

[Buse]

Isn't that treason from Obama? Castro did much harm to America.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Isn't that treason from Obama? Castro did much harm to America.

How in the world is it treason to end a fruitless 50 year endeavor?

[Buse]

Isn't that treason from Obama? Castro did much harm to America.

How in the world is it treason to end a fruitless 50 year endeavor?

Castro nationalised the assets of American citisens and comiteed an expulsion of Americans from the Cuba. Crimes such these never wanish especially as the perpetrator is still alive.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

How in the world is it treason to end a fruitless 50 year endeavor?

Castro nationalised the assets of American citisens and comiteed an expulsion of Americans from the Cuba. Crimes such these never wanish especially as the perpetrator is still alive.

And this lingering resentment in the form of an embargo has changed nothing so why keep it up?

[Teemant]

Castro nationalised the assets of American citisens and comiteed an expulsion of Americans from the Cuba. Crimes such these never wanish especially as the perpetrator is still alive.

And this lingering resentment in the form of an embargo has changed nothing so why keep it up?

It has. The Castro regime is paying high price because of the embargo.

[Conserative Morality]

And this lingering resentment in the form of an embargo has changed nothing so why keep it up?

It has. The Castro regime is paying high price because of the embargo.

I can assure you, it's not the regime or its elites that are suffering.

[Benuty]

And this lingering resentment in the form of an embargo has changed nothing so why keep it up?

It has. The Castro regime is paying high price because of the embargo.

Yeah.....screw those people who are different from us because they overthrew the US mafia backed dictator we had in power!

[Bezkoshtovnya]

It has. The Castro regime is paying high price because of the embargo.

I can assure you, it's not the regime or its elites that are suffering.

This.

[Buse]

And this lingering resentment in the form of an embargo has changed nothing so why keep it up?

Yes it dod. It keept Cuba poor as a reminder that it would never be developed as prior to the revolution. Due to the santions Rauls was forced to allow free enterprise on kinor steps. It gave also hope to the Cuban opposition.

But what is here about are principals. The Cuban gov comiteed atrocities on Americans and it isjust treason to collaborate with it. Obama is acting like Vidkun Quisling.

[Benuty]

And this lingering resentment in the form of an embargo has changed nothing so why keep it up?

Yes it dod. It keept Cuba poor as a reminder that it would never be developed as prior to the revolution. Due to the santions Rauls was forced to allow free enterprise on kinor steps. It gave also hope to the Cuban opposition.

But what is here about are principals. The Cuban gov comiteed atrocities on Americans and it isjust treason to collaborate with it. Obama is acting like Vidkun Quisling.

Frankly I do not know why the US is even catering to people who are butthurt about Batista losing, and their kids who probably haven't even been to Cuba.

[Teemant]

It has. The Castro regime is paying high price because of the embargo.

Yeah.....screw those people who are different from us because they overthrew the US mafia backed dictator we had in power!

Did I say that I support dictatorship? When was the last time that Cuba had free and fair elections? You don't know what Cuban people want. Currently they have no right to say what they want because they will be punished by regime then.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

And this lingering resentment in the form of an embargo has changed nothing so why keep it up?

Yes it dod. It keept Cuba poor as a reminder that it would never be developed as prior to the revolution. Due to the santions Rauls was forced to allow free enterprise on kinor steps. It gave also hope to the Cuban opposition.

But what is here about are principals. The Cuban gov comiteed atrocities on Americans and it isjust treason to collaborate with it. Obama is acting like Vidkun Quisling.

It's been 50 years.

What the fuck is there about this other than getting a huge defiant hardon? That's literally what you're suggesting, the cause muh fulins we should keep it.