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Postby Banderia » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:39 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
It really, really wasn't or isn't surprising. The only ones who had a surprise were the French, but at that point it was like pissing at the wind really, considering they gave them freedom but it didn't reach the news after the massacre.

So it seems that it was better if they did not abolished slavery. But than again you would still not have sympathies for French.

Didn't you just call me a racist just a post back? Pot, meet kettle. Also, nice work proving you also can't comprehend what I'm writing.

Yes, you are. I did not advocated genocide as you did stop mirroring other people upon yourself.

Oh no, I am not saying that the US intervened, I am saying Batista basically gave the island to American investors, which is different. The fact of the matter is that Batista is a pretty shitty example of how great Cuba was and I see people fapping about him constantly. He was an asshole, and Castro is too, but Castro is a nationalistic asshole so it was more palatable to the Cubans.

But dont you understand. Because of he "gave the island to the investors", the island became an economic powerhouse. Because of that Cubans had even a more salary than the Germans or French in their country. Castro destroyed all that and because of him there are more Cubans living in the US (before Castro that was vice versa).

Soldati senza confini wrote:What you never understood was that it was our problems to begin with. You just acted out of a knee-jerk reaction going "COMMUNISM IN OUR BACKYARD!" without looking at the situation. No, that was too complicated for your government, was it? Or was it because you are so self-interested you were thinking that Russia would invade your backyard any moment and bring Armageddon upon you? Don't lie now, because we can all go read history books.

You were and are still poor. That is because you are not capable of building an economy. Instead it was your government that asked us for assistance.

I would blame that on the Hispanic culture which was heavily under the docrtine of the Catholic Church. The Church was imposing that social egalitarianism was necesarly evil.

Oh no, not at all, except the CIA trained our death squads and funded a bunch of pricks under ARENA and even trained D'Aubuisson, you supported Somoza while the Sandinistas were trying to liberate the country from the Somoza dictatorship and we even have tons of evidence of the Iran-Contra affair, and the CIA also helped topple Allende by backing Pinochet's coup. That's nothing, right? Also, you helped nothing, many of these countries went ahead and solved their own issues without you anyways, who'd have thought?

The Sandinistian were brutal murders as well as they were killing everybody who diagreed with them. Not to mention they were corrupt. and there is no evidence whatsoever that the US supported this guy. ARENA is even today a legal party that even won election so they certainly always had support of the part of the population.

Allende was not a saint. He was not ellected by the majority of Chileans and even comiteed red terror and destroyed the economy. pinochet took hands on its own without to save his country.

Yea, and you also paid them peanuts while your companies had vast amounts of land in there and established powerful monopolies (United Fruit Company anyone?), again, stop acting like the world owes you shit, it doesn't.

That was the unresponsebility of your governments for not teaching you to be in favour of free enterprise. Instead you were always depended by the government and nobody is to blame why you always hated you own capitalistic elite. How can you expect to be rich when every rich enterpreur is by defaulth some evil person who "hold a latifundia"?

As for why am I in the United States? That's none of your business.

This must be very frustrated for you. Probably your parents had no choice but to illegall run to the US, the same country that supposedly destroyed your local community.

My point isn't to demonize the United States, is to make you realize that the United States doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone as soon as our interests are more important. We didn't give a flying shit back then during the Cold War, we don't give a fucking shit about what Cubans have to say about re-establishing relations because we didn't do it because of them to begin with. Sorry you don't think that way, but it's how our foreign policy works.

You elected representatives did, whether you accept that or not.

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Postby Banderia » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:40 pm

Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:
Banderia wrote:Apsolutely. The most Haitians like most Latins cannot run their countries, so it would probably be better for the Haitian people to be like Gaudalope, a part of France.

* Latinos, Latins were the people from the Ancient Latium who founded Rome.

Kindly fuck your colonialism and imperialism off.

I kindly fuck your poverty and constant demand for foreign aid.
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Postby Kubra » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:41 pm

dude str8 up skipped over my post and went on as if I haven't said a thing
Again ya'll, slavery was reinstated in the colonies, sources on the last page, this guy is willing to lie to make a point, so why bother arguing with him?

Banderia wrote:Allende was not a saint. He was not ellected by the majority of Chileans and even comiteed red terror and destroyed the economy. pinochet took hands on its own without to save his country.
I've always been in favour of the trot view of Allende, "should kept workers armed to the teeth"
Like look at this guy, he's saying it's bad to have a terror unless you're right wing
As far as I'm concerned, this sort of outlook is the reason every gusano in florida ought to have been offed if only Castro could have had the opportunity.
cuz it's ok to advocate massacre if you've got the right politics, mirite?
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Postby Benuty » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:42 pm

Banderia wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:* Latinos, Latins were the people from the Ancient Latium who founded Rome.

Kindly fuck your colonialism and imperialism off.

I fuck your poverty.

Wow..so at your house or theirs?
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:42 pm

Banderia wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:* Latinos, Latins were the people from the Ancient Latium who founded Rome.

Kindly fuck your colonialism and imperialism off.

I fuck your poverty.

Funny that you act like that, given how for most of my lifespan, I was richer than a plurality or majority of people in Ukraine. :P
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Postby Degenerate Heart of HetRio » Wed Dec 17, 2014 6:43 pm

Benuty wrote:
Banderia wrote:I fuck your poverty.

Wow..so at your house or theirs?

I think his house would be better. I hope it's more chic and fits better his playboy taste. :P
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Postby Roski » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:01 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:* Latinos, Latins were the people who from the Ancient Latium who founded Rome.

Kindly fuck your colonialism and imperialism off.


I mean, is very telling when the first thing you see are pretty blatant hints of American Jingoism and blatant disregard of modern Foreign Relations.


I guess its time to backtrack (a tiny bit).

I'm not so much against it, I'm just for a much more different solution
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:06 pm

Banderia wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
It really, really wasn't or isn't surprising. The only ones who had a surprise were the French, but at that point it was like pissing at the wind really, considering they gave them freedom but it didn't reach the news after the massacre.

So it seems that it was better if they did not abolished slavery. But than again you would still not have sympathies for French.

Didn't you just call me a racist just a post back? Pot, meet kettle. Also, nice work proving you also can't comprehend what I'm writing.

Yes, you are. I did not advocated genocide as you did stop mirroring other people upon yourself.

Oh no, I am not saying that the US intervened, I am saying Batista basically gave the island to American investors, which is different. The fact of the matter is that Batista is a pretty shitty example of how great Cuba was and I see people fapping about him constantly. He was an asshole, and Castro is too, but Castro is a nationalistic asshole so it was more palatable to the Cubans.

But dont you understand. Because of he "gave the island to the investors", the island became an economic powerhouse. Because of that Cubans had even a more salary than the Germans or French in their country. Castro destroyed all that and because of him there are more Cubans living in the US (before Castro that was vice versa).

Soldati senza confini wrote:What you never understood was that it was our problems to begin with. You just acted out of a knee-jerk reaction going "COMMUNISM IN OUR BACKYARD!" without looking at the situation. No, that was too complicated for your government, was it? Or was it because you are so self-interested you were thinking that Russia would invade your backyard any moment and bring Armageddon upon you? Don't lie now, because we can all go read history books.

You were and are still poor. That is because you are not capable of building an economy. Instead it was your government that asked us for assistance.

I would blame that on the Hispanic culture which was heavily under the docrtine of the Catholic Church. The Church was imposing that social egalitarianism was necesarly evil.

Oh no, not at all, except the CIA trained our death squads and funded a bunch of pricks under ARENA and even trained D'Aubuisson, you supported Somoza while the Sandinistas were trying to liberate the country from the Somoza dictatorship and we even have tons of evidence of the Iran-Contra affair, and the CIA also helped topple Allende by backing Pinochet's coup. That's nothing, right? Also, you helped nothing, many of these countries went ahead and solved their own issues without you anyways, who'd have thought?

The Sandinistian were brutal murders as well as they were killing everybody who diagreed with them. Not to mention they were corrupt. and there is no evidence whatsoever that the US supported this guy. ARENA is even today a legal party that even won election so they certainly always had support of the part of the population.

Allende was not a saint. He was not ellected by the majority of Chileans and even comiteed red terror and destroyed the economy. pinochet took hands on its own without to save his country.

Yea, and you also paid them peanuts while your companies had vast amounts of land in there and established powerful monopolies (United Fruit Company anyone?), again, stop acting like the world owes you shit, it doesn't.

That was the unresponsebility of your governments for not teaching you to be in favour of free enterprise. Instead you were always depended by the government and nobody is to blame why you always hated you own capitalistic elite. How can you expect to be rich when every rich enterpreur is by defaulth some evil person who "hold a latifundia"?

As for why am I in the United States? That's none of your business.

This must be very frustrated for you. Probably your parents had no choice but to illegall run to the US, the same country that supposedly destroyed your local community.

My point isn't to demonize the United States, is to make you realize that the United States doesn't give a flying fuck about anyone as soon as our interests are more important. We didn't give a flying shit back then during the Cold War, we don't give a fucking shit about what Cubans have to say about re-establishing relations because we didn't do it because of them to begin with. Sorry you don't think that way, but it's how our foreign policy works.

You elected representatives did, whether you accept that or not.


History wasn't on their side, that being said I think genocide is wrong nowadays. For an event of the past? I can evaluate and say that it is something that was inevitable, which it was and it isn't surprising looking at the situation of the period so no, I have no sympathies for the French back in that period. Would I have sympathy for the French nowadays if it happened? Yes, but France back then isn't the France of today. It's like saying I should have no compassion for Germans given they bred the Nazi party, but nice work at trying to frame me as a racist when you're being all parochial and thinking Latin America actually should be kissing the U.S. feet nowadays. I wonder who is more racist, the one who can see a historical event and say "yea, they had it coming" or the one who thinks that Latin Americans are below himself nowadays and we're "dirty wetbacks", hmmm....

Yea, who are the ones who started living here? Weren't they the ones who were better off when Batista started giving away business to the U.S.?

Did the government asked for assistance, or did the rich minority who had people in power did? I'll let you answer that one.

Oh no, Somoza wasn't given any support none whatsoever. ARENA was a legitimate party who was composed of the rich people who owned 75% of the land already. What the fuck do you think was going to happen if there was a poor man's revolution, like what happened with the FMLN? Also, let's not forget that El Salvadoran election of ARENA was under a lot of military coercion of voters (voter intimidation) and terror tactics to achieve the results it did.

Yea no, Allende was supported by the Chilean people and he won the election in 1970 via enough votes to get him in the presidency. The fact you're engaging in major revisionism and parochial rhetoric is hilarious though.

Umm... that's because a vast minority of people held a vast majority of the land. It's what we call an oligarchy. Try to keep up.

Lol @ the Catholic Church doing what? I mean, dude, come on, you're basically making it easy for me to dispute such claims given that the Catholic Church was pretty much against Liberation Theology and yet Liberation Theology components were taught. Good try though.

At this point I am sure you're trying to offend me which is cute, but I won't fall for it. Try to bait someone else to flame you.

WTF does your last paragraph has to do with fuck all anything I said in what you were replying? I'm not even sure if I should waste more time with you anymore. Overall your responses are tragically inconsistent with the reality of historical events during the Cold War and our intervention in Latin America. You have proved you not only fail at a basic understanding of the situation in several countries, you have also shown you choose to engage in historical revisionism when even Wikipedia shows you're wrong. Once you have more knowledge about history maybe we'll talk again, until then between you and historians who have studied this for years I know who to agree with.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:07 pm

Banderia wrote:
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:* Latinos, Latins were the people from the Ancient Latium who founded Rome.

Kindly fuck your colonialism and imperialism off.

I kindly fuck your poverty and constant demand for foreign aid.


Top lel.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:34 pm

Benuty wrote:
Banderia wrote:I fuck your poverty.

Wow..so at your house or theirs?


This proves without a doubt the next plan of America for world domination:

Surprise buttsex for all third-world countries. We shall send our most... "capable" operatives around the world so they can "fuck poverty", like all of them deserve.
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Postby Roski » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:35 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Benuty wrote:Wow..so at your house or theirs?


This proves without a doubt the next plan of America for world domination:

Surprise buttsex for all third-world countries. We shall send our most... "capable" operatives around the world so they can "fuck poverty".


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Postby Nakhi » Wed Dec 17, 2014 7:39 pm

Murkwood wrote:I believe that, until Cuba transitions into a free-market democracy, there should be no let up of sanctions.

Obama is making a really bad mistake.


We're free market and less free as people than many democracies, like Brazil. I do not think that it is a well-proven societal requirement to promote so-called free markets, as this would push Cuba to begin exploiting foreign 3rd world markets like Europe, America and the far East do.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:01 pm

Roski wrote:The only real talks we should be having is US Marines landing on the beaches.

I'm sorry, but I find these random dictatorships such as Iran and Cuba and Venezuela to be jokes, why don't we just finish them off one by one?


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Postby Roski » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:03 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Roski wrote:The only real talks we should be having is US Marines landing on the beaches.

I'm sorry, but I find these random dictatorships such as Iran and Cuba and Venezuela to be jokes, why don't we just finish them off one by one?


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A year or so
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Postby Constantinopolis » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:14 pm

Banderia wrote:I kindly fuck your poverty and constant demand for foreign aid.

Do you realize how hilarious that sounds coming from a guy with a NS country called "Banderia" and a Ukrainian flag? :rofl:
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Postby Toronina » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:19 pm

I get the feeling the Republican's won't let the embargo stop, just to spite Obama, then blame him for it.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:19 pm

Roski wrote:I'm sorry, but I find these random dictatorships such as Iran and Cuba and Venezuela to be jokes, why don't we just finish them off one by one?

Yeah, I mean, just look how awesome things turned out when the US tried to finish off the random dictatorship of Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Or when US airstrikes helped to topple Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

What could possibly go wrong? :roll:
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Postby Roski » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:21 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Roski wrote:I'm sorry, but I find these random dictatorships such as Iran and Cuba and Venezuela to be jokes, why don't we just finish them off one by one?

Yeah, I mean, just look how awesome things turned out when the US tried to finish off the random dictatorship of Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Or when US airstrikes helped to topple Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

What could possibly go wrong? :roll:


They worked completely.

Then some other fuckers got involved when we left.
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Postby Toronina » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:24 pm

Roski wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Yeah, I mean, just look how awesome things turned out when the US tried to finish off the random dictatorship of Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Or when US airstrikes helped to topple Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

What could possibly go wrong? :roll:


They worked completely.

Then some other fuckers got involved when we left.

It's mainly the US starting to clean up the place, but leave before it's fully fixed
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Postby Roski » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:26 pm

Toronina wrote:
Roski wrote:
They worked completely.

Then some other fuckers got involved when we left.

It's mainly the US starting to clean up the place, but leave before it's fully fixed


basically.

ALthough, I really do think we should treat our American comrades with better respect than some nations around the world.

That would be like if you treated your neighbors the same way you treated your co-workers in a different city.
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Postby Constantinopolis » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:27 pm

Roski wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:Yeah, I mean, just look how awesome things turned out when the US tried to finish off the random dictatorship of Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Or when US airstrikes helped to topple Libyan dictator Muammar Gaddafi.

What could possibly go wrong? :roll:

They worked completely.

Then some other fuckers got involved when we left.

That's called... not working.

If the political regime you installed can only remain in power as long as it has American firepower to threaten its opponents into submission, then it is weak, unstable, and doomed. A stable, normal country doesn't require foreign troops to defend its government.

Here's the lesson that would-be American imperialists really need to learn about the world:

You cannot make a country have a political or economic system that is not supported by any major political faction inside that country.

The key words there are "major political faction". You can make a country have a system that is not supported by the majority, as long as it is supported by a powerful, well-organized minority. But if you don't even have that? Forget it.
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Postby Roski » Wed Dec 17, 2014 8:34 pm

Constantinopolis wrote:
Roski wrote:They worked completely.

Then some other fuckers got involved when we left.

That's called... not working.

If the political regime you installed can only remain in power as long as it has American firepower to threaten its opponents into submission, then it is weak, unstable, and doomed. A stable, normal country doesn't require foreign troops to defend its government.

Here's the lesson that would-be American imperialists really need to learn about the world:

You cannot make a country have a political or economic system that is not supported by any major political faction inside that country.

The key words there are "major political faction". You can make a country have a system that is not supported by the majority, as long as it is supported by a powerful, well-organized minority. But if you don't even have that? Forget it.


The "majority" of cubans would likely prefer someone who isn't Castro.

I don't necessarily want a democratic replacement, I'd like someone who isn't like North Korea, even if they are leader for life.
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Postby Geilinor » Wed Dec 17, 2014 9:50 pm

Roski wrote:
Constantinopolis wrote:That's called... not working.

If the political regime you installed can only remain in power as long as it has American firepower to threaten its opponents into submission, then it is weak, unstable, and doomed. A stable, normal country doesn't require foreign troops to defend its government.

Here's the lesson that would-be American imperialists really need to learn about the world:

You cannot make a country have a political or economic system that is not supported by any major political faction inside that country.

The key words there are "major political faction". You can make a country have a system that is not supported by the majority, as long as it is supported by a powerful, well-organized minority. But if you don't even have that? Forget it.


The "majority" of cubans would likely prefer someone who isn't Castro.

I don't necessarily want a democratic replacement, I'd like someone who isn't like North Korea, even if they are leader for life.

Cuba has much saner leadership than North Korea does. You do realize that Raul Castro is more moderate than his brother and has already proven that?
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Postby The Kievan People » Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:03 am

Wow.

Obama just can't resist a concession can he?

Hopefully the Republicans can stop him before he negotiates away the nuclear arsenal or abolishes NATO or something.

I don't think we should compare him to Jimmy Carter anymore. It's not fair to Jimmy.

Wow.
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