The Collapse of the Ruble?

[Valica]

DOWN WITH RUSSIA.
UP WITH DEMOCRACY.
EXPAND THE UNITED NATIONS.
EXPAND THE NORTH ATLANTIC TRADE ORGANIZATION.
EXPAND THE EUROPEAN UNION.
REACH FOR A ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT.

[United Marxist Nations]

It is a Great Power using the threat of military force to maintain a base in violation of international law, which fits my stipulation that the Great Powers are de facto immune from international law.

An incident from over 50 years ago is not relevant to how international politics and relations between countries happen today. And given that the ruble is pretty fucked, it would appear that Great Powers are not de facto immune from international law.

Ultimate sovereignty of Cuba was though, which was the term of the treaty.

A demonstrably false statement:

While on the one hand the United States recognizes the continuance of the ultimate sovereignty of the Republic of Cuba over the above described areas of land and water,...

The terms of the treaty are that the base belongs to the US for as long as it recognizes Cuba's sovereignty.

[Yorkopolis]

Get your tinfoil hats my friends, the Illuminati must be behind this collapse!

Personally, if you ask me, Russia brought it upon itself. They set the stage for the Ukrainian crisis and war, and now they're paying the price for endlessly violating the sovereignty of not just Ukraine, but also of Moldova, Georgia and Azerbaijan. I hope this will have consequences for Putin.

no really, us secretary of state john Kerry dropped by Riyadh and got them to increase oil production enough to get this to happen. it IS an international plot to destabilize Russia.

Well even if it was, Russia got what it's deserved for endlessly violating the sovereignty of several nations over the past 20 years.

[Weronus]

DOWN WITH RUSSIA.
UP WITH DEMOCRACY.
EXPAND THE UNITED NATIONS.
EXPAND THE NORTH ATLANTIC TRADE ORGANIZATION.
EXPAND THE EUROPEAN UNION.
REACH FOR A ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT.

Russia as a country doesn't have to go down to install democracy.

[Laerod]

An incident from over 50 years ago is not relevant to how international politics and relations between countries happen today. And given that the ruble is pretty fucked, it would appear that Great Powers are not de facto immune from international law.

A demonstrably false statement:

The terms of the treaty are that the base belongs to the US for as long as it recognizes Cuba's sovereignty.

That's not what the treaty says. I just proved that.

[The Nihilistic view]

I think it's mainly to do with the direction of oil prices. If they stay where they are or go lower then it's really not going to get any brighter in the short to medium term.

[Ashmoria]

no really, us secretary of state john Kerry dropped by Riyadh and got them to increase oil production enough to get this to happen. it IS an international plot to destabilize Russia.

Well even if it was, Russia got what it's deserved for endlessly violating the sovereignty of several nations over the past 20 years.

they did it because of crimea/Ukraine.

[United Marxist Nations]

The terms of the treaty are that the base belongs to the US for as long as it recognizes Cuba's sovereignty.

That's not what the treaty says. I just proved that.

In that case, wiki's article needs to change its wording.

[Valica]

DOWN WITH RUSSIA.
UP WITH DEMOCRACY.
EXPAND THE UNITED NATIONS.
EXPAND THE NORTH ATLANTIC TRADE ORGANIZATION.
EXPAND THE EUROPEAN UNION.
REACH FOR A ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT.

Russia as a country doesn't have to go down to install democracy.

Nothing revs up the democracy engine quite like a collapsing government of another flavor.

[United Marxist Nations]

Russia as a country doesn't have to go down to install democracy.

Nothing revs up the democracy engine quite like a collapsing government of another flavor.

Well, if that happens, it is most likely that my comrades would win, them being the biggest opposition and all.

[Valica]

Nothing revs up the democracy engine quite like a collapsing government of another flavor.

Well, if that happens, it is most likely that my comrades would win, them being the biggest opposition and all.

If anyone takes over after Putin's shitty regime, it should be capitalists or democratic socialists.

[United Marxist Nations]

Well, if that happens, it is most likely that my comrades would win, them being the biggest opposition and all.

If anyone takes over after Putin's shitty regime, it should be capitalists or democratic socialists.

The biggest group is, of course, Putin's supporters; taking them out of the equation makes the CPRF the biggest group, with anywhere from 16-35%. After them, it's mostly nationalists.

So, if Putin's govt should fall, our Russian counterparts will likely shift toward the CP.

[Donbass Resistance]

Obvious Reasons:

1. Falling oil prices and OPEC not willing to decrease production to make them go back up to bankrupt small American oil companies.

2. America manipulating the stock market to decrease the ruble's value. America doesn't want to take Russia on militarily so they're using their beloved commitment-free method of war.

[Donbass Resistance]

Russia as a country doesn't have to go down to install democracy.

Nothing revs up the democracy engine quite like a collapsing government of another flavor.

Democracy is simply the last step of government before anarchy. That's why higher-order governments collapse into it. There's literally nothing for democracy to collapse into except total chaos.

[Arkolon]

Nothing revs up the democracy engine quite like a collapsing government of another flavor.

Democracy is simply the last step of government before anarchy. That's why higher-order governments collapse into it. There's literally nothing for democracy to collapse into except total chaos.

Anarchy =/= chaos, but I digress.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

Nothing revs up the democracy engine quite like a collapsing government of another flavor.

Well, if that happens, it is most likely that my comrades would win, them being the biggest opposition and all.

They've been preparing for this day for awhile...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqNv6jRb1lY

[Conserative Morality]

Well, if that happens, it is most likely that my comrades would win, them being the biggest opposition and all.

I don't trust Zyuganov. He seems more nationalist than internationalist.

[The Nihilistic view]

no really, us secretary of state john Kerry dropped by Riyadh and got them to increase oil production enough to get this to happen. it IS an international plot to destabilize Russia.

Well even if it was, Russia got what it's deserved for endlessly violating the sovereignty of several nations over the past 20 years.

Actually it got what it deserved for shitty monetary policy of the last year or so.

[Donbass Resistance]

Well, if that happens, it is most likely that my comrades would win, them being the biggest opposition and all.

I'm all for another Soviet Union. With a command economy the US would have no sway over Russia and we'd easily sweep the Western-backed junta from Kiev. Long live the Ukrainian SSR!

[Conserative Morality]

Well, if that happens, it is most likely that my comrades would win, them being the biggest opposition and all.

I'm all for another Soviet Union. With a command economy the US would have no sway over Russia and we'd easily sweep the Western-backed junta from Kiev. Long live the Ukrainian SSR!

Without international trade, Russia would be every bit as poor as its former holdings.

[Donbass Resistance]

I'm all for another Soviet Union. With a command economy the US would have no sway over Russia and we'd easily sweep the Western-backed junta from Kiev. Long live the Ukrainian SSR!

Without international trade, Russia would be every bit as poor as its former holdings.

And what is "wealth" to you? The cheap products from China that flood every store? The cardboard house and car that you're convinced are yours but which actually belong to your bank? The arrival of capitalism is what brought poverty.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

This is why you don't tie your currency to something as volatile as oil.

[Laerod]

Without international trade, Russia would be every bit as poor as its former holdings.

And what is "wealth" to you? The cheap products from China that flood every store? The cardboard house and car that you're convinced are yours but which actually belong to your bank? The arrival of capitalism is what brought poverty.

No.

[Laerod]

This is why you don't tie your currency to something as volatile as oil.

It's less the currency and more the economy, to be fair.

[The Liberated Territories]

DOWN WITH RUSSIA.
UP WITH DEMOCRACY.
EXPAND THE UNITED NATIONS.
EXPAND THE NORTH ATLANTIC TRADE ORGANIZATION.
EXPAND THE EUROPEAN UNION.
REACH FOR A ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT.

Take a chill pill, Phil.