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[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

So is it in hell

hell was not on her list

But it's near Sweden.

[Ethel mermania]

its cold in sweden

But I have family there.

its still cold there. i spent a bit of time in sweden i liked it, everyone spoke english and was very nice, its cold in sweden.

[Kannap]

Considering Australia, UK, or Canada. I hear they offer dual citizenship.

Rwanda and Sweden, my other choices, don't offer dual citizenship.

You should be fine if you apply for citizenship in those countries. You're going to have to explain your actions to a consular AND not apply for a government position in the UK, Canada, or Australia; so basically have it and be a normal human being. As long as you get into a political position of significant power the U.S. is assuming you are relinquishing your nationality.

And out of all places, why would you choose Rwanda?!

So I can hold AustralianORCanadianORBritish citizenship without giving up my America citizenship? And ah, what would be a good reason for the citizenship? I feel "because" won't cut it.

And I am oddly obsessed with Rwanda.

[Ethel mermania]

hell was not on her list

But it's near Sweden.

closer to sweden than canada anyway

[DesAnges]

I'm going to nitpick but Venezuela is a different continent.

I take it all of America as a single continent, really.

If we are going to be truly nitpicky, then we can say Venezuela is part of a different geopolitical group.

But it's not, though. North and South America are on different continental plates. It's geographic fact.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

You should be fine if you apply for citizenship in those countries. You're going to have to explain your actions to a consular AND not apply for a government position in the UK, Canada, or Australia; so basically have it and be a normal human being. As long as you get into a political position of significant power the U.S. is assuming you are relinquishing your nationality.

And out of all places, why would you choose Rwanda?!

So I can hold AustralianORCanadianORBritish citizenship without giving up my America citizenship? And ah, what would be a good reason for the citizenship? I feel "because" won't cut it.

And I am oddly obsessed with Rwanda.

I'm oddly obsessed with almost every country.

[Taigawa]

Yeah, you should be safe doing that anywhere on this continent except for Cuba, which we have sanctions against.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Yeah, you should be safe doing that anywhere on this continent except for Cuba, which we have sanctions against.

Mexico has sanctions on Cuba?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

You should be fine if you apply for citizenship in those countries. You're going to have to explain your actions to a consular AND not apply for a government position in the UK, Canada, or Australia; so basically have it and be a normal human being. As long as you get into a political position of significant power the U.S. is assuming you are relinquishing your nationality.

And out of all places, why would you choose Rwanda?!

So I can hold AustralianORCanadianORBritish citizenship without giving up my America citizenship? And ah, what would be a good reason for the citizenship? I feel "because" won't cut it.

And I am oddly obsessed with Rwanda.

They'll just ask you whether or not your intention was to relinquish U.S. Citizenship when you decided to become a citizen of the UK/Australia/Canada. If you reply that you were not the officer will just note that it wasn't your intention and that for all purposes you still retain U.S. Citizenship.

If you reply yes they will tell you to fill a questionnaire to ascertain your intent to relinquish. After that they'll make you sign another paper which confirms you are voluntarily relinquishing U.S. Citizenship, which will then be sent and approved by the Department of State.

[DesAnges]

But it's near Sweden.

closer to sweden than canada anyway

Hell is hot. Neither Sweden nor Canada are.

Your logic is flawed.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

I take it all of America as a single continent, really.

If we are going to be truly nitpicky, then we can say Venezuela is part of a different geopolitical group.

But it's not, though. North and South America are on different continental plates. It's geographic geological fact.

ftfy

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

closer to sweden than canada anyway

Hell is hot. Neither Sweden nor Canada are.

Your logic is flawed.

Yeah, maybe look on what we're talking about
It's gotta be near Sweden if we're talking about that specific region or the Nordic Countries.

[Immoren]

But it's near Sweden.

closer to sweden than canada anyway

I should someday visit Norway.

[Kannap]

So I can hold AustralianORCanadianORBritish citizenship without giving up my America citizenship? And ah, what would be a good reason for the citizenship? I feel "because" won't cut it.

And I am oddly obsessed with Rwanda.

They'll just ask you whether or not your intention was to relinquish U.S. Citizenship when you decided to become a citizen of the UK/Australia/Canada. If you reply that you were not the officer will just note that it wasn't your intention and that for all purposes you still retain U.S. Citizenship.

If you reply yes they will tell you to fill a questionnaire to ascertain your intent to relinquish. After that they'll make you sign another paper which confirms you are voluntarily relinquishing U.S. Citizenship, which will then be sent and approved by the Department of State.

So do I go to the UK/Aussie/Canadian Embassy/Consulate to do this or a certain American government building?

Do you need a passport to get into an embassy or consulate, since they are the land of the nation they represent, and not American land.

[DesAnges]

But it's not, though. North and South America are on different continental plates. It's geographic geological fact.

ftfy

Valid point.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

They'll just ask you whether or not your intention was to relinquish U.S. Citizenship when you decided to become a citizen of the UK/Australia/Canada. If you reply that you were not the officer will just note that it wasn't your intention and that for all purposes you still retain U.S. Citizenship.

If you reply yes they will tell you to fill a questionnaire to ascertain your intent to relinquish. After that they'll make you sign another paper which confirms you are voluntarily relinquishing U.S. Citizenship, which will then be sent and approved by the Department of State.

So do I go to the UK/Aussie/Canadian Embassy/Consulate to do this or a certain American government building?

Do you need a passport to get into an embassy or consulate, since they are the land of the nation they represent, and not American land.

They don't generally ask you until you step into a consulate since the presumption that you want to retain U.S. Citizenship is established as a de facto thing, meaning that even if you get your UK/Aussie/Canadian citizenship the assumption is that no, you don't want to lose your U.S. citizenship.

When you go to a consular officer they are going to ask you though. You deal directly with the Consulate of the United States for your U.S. Citizenship things, whereas you deal with the UK/Aussie/Canadian Embassy/Consulate for your legal matters in those countries as an immigrant of those countries.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

Deliciously fried steak is deliciously fried.

[Kannap]

So do I go to the UK/Aussie/Canadian Embassy/Consulate to do this or a certain American government building?

Do you need a passport to get into an embassy or consulate, since they are the land of the nation they represent, and not American land.

They don't generally ask you until you step into a consulate since the presumption that you want to retain U.S. Citizenship is established as a de facto thing, meaning that even if you get your UK/Aussie/Canadian citizenship the assumption is that no, you don't want to lose your U.S. citizenship.

When you go to a consular officer they are going to ask you though. You deal directly with the Consulate of the United States for your U.S. Citizenship things, whereas you deal with the UK/Aussie/Canadian Embassy/Consulate for your legal matters in those countries.

All of that confused me.

[Kannap]

Deliciously fried steak is deliciously fried.

Lies, it is yummily baked.

[The Grim Reaper]

They don't generally ask you until you step into a consulate since the presumption that you want to retain U.S. Citizenship is established as a de facto thing, meaning that even if you get your UK/Aussie/Canadian citizenship the assumption is that no, you don't want to lose your U.S. citizenship.

When you go to a consular officer they are going to ask you though. You deal directly with the Consulate of the United States for your U.S. Citizenship things, whereas you deal with the UK/Aussie/Canadian Embassy/Consulate for your legal matters in those countries.

All of that confused me.

You arrange your new citizenship first. Once you have received citizenship in the new country of choice, you contact the US government to make known you intention to retain the US citizenship.

[Ethel mermania]

closer to sweden than canada anyway

Hell is hot. Neither Sweden nor Canada are.

Your logic is flawed.

It woln't be the first time.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

All of that confused me.

You arrange your new citizenship first. Once you have received citizenship in the new country of choice, you contact the US government to make known you intention to retain the US citizenship.

I need to learn how to simplify things like you do

[Taigawa]

Yeah, you should be safe doing that anywhere on this continent except for Cuba, which we have sanctions against.

Mexico has sanctions on Cuba?

No, US does and has since I believe the '60's.

[Ethel mermania]

All of that confused me.

You arrange your new citizenship first. Once you have received citizenship in the new country of choice, you contact the US government to make known you intention to retain the US citizenship.

No no no, you can not have a dual American citizenship easily. It is certainly doable but Check with the state dept first, they will tell her.

[Kannap]

All of that confused me.

You arrange your new citizenship first. Once you have received citizenship in the new country of choice, you contact the US government to make known you intention to retain the US citizenship.

Okay then