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Postby DesAnges » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:55 pm

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Of course not

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Postby 186DPIT84HK95BDKG » Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:57 pm

DesAnges wrote:
186DPIT84HK95BDKG wrote:In the social realm, appearances are the barometer of almost all our judgments.

Are you Russell Brand?

No. Why do you ask?
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Postby Kannap » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:07 pm

186DPIT84HK95BDKG wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Are you Russell Brand?

No. Why do you ask?


People typically ask questions to receive answers.
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Postby 186DPIT84HK95BDKG » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:19 pm

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186DPIT84HK95BDKG wrote:No. Why do you ask?


People typically ask questions to receive answers.

What I want to know is why he asked if I was Russell Brand.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:20 pm

186DPIT84HK95BDKG wrote:
Kannap wrote:
People typically ask questions to receive answers.

What I want to know is why he asked if I was Russell Brand.


Why's and why nots are unimportant in life.

What is important is determining what nation I can obtain dual citizenship in without forfeiting my American citizenship.
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Postby DesAnges » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:23 pm

Kannap wrote:
186DPIT84HK95BDKG wrote:What I want to know is why he asked if I was Russell Brand.


Why's and why nots are unimportant in life.

What is important is determining what nation I can obtain dual citizenship in without forfeiting my American citizenship.

Very, very few.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:24 pm

Kannap wrote:
186DPIT84HK95BDKG wrote:No. Why do you ask?


People typically ask questions to receive answers.


i leanred that from Kermit the frog.
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Postby 186DPIT84HK95BDKG » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:25 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kannap wrote:
People typically ask questions to receive answers.


i leanred that from Kermit the frog.

Amusing.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:26 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Why's and why nots are unimportant in life.

What is important is determining what nation I can obtain dual citizenship in without forfeiting my American citizenship.

Very, very few.


The more so issue is what nation I can obtain dual citizenship in without America revoking my citizenship.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:32 pm

Kannap wrote:
186DPIT84HK95BDKG wrote:What I want to know is why he asked if I was Russell Brand.


Why's and why nots are unimportant in life.

What is important is determining what nation I can obtain dual citizenship in without forfeiting my American citizenship.


You can get another citizenship through marriage without losing your American citizenship.

Generally, you can get another citizenship in another state, but a U.S. Consular will ask you upon entry whether your intent was to relinquish U.S. Citizenship or not, and that's a complicated process. However, you cannot get citizenship from countries that the U.S. is in hostilities with or has sanctions against.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:32 pm

Kannap wrote:
DesAnges wrote:Very, very few.


The more so issue is what nation I can obtain dual citizenship in without America revoking my citizenship.

Usually, you're born into it, say like me. I have a mother from Mexico who has a Mexican citizenship, yet I was born in America. I get citizenship from America and Mexico due to heritage.
I was originally going to get a Spanish Citizenship as well, but I was born was after my father's side moved to Puerto Rico.

You can get it with marriage or some other ways.
Though I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong though. Taking advice from me.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:35 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Why's and why nots are unimportant in life.

What is important is determining what nation I can obtain dual citizenship in without forfeiting my American citizenship.


You can get another citizenship through marriage without losing your American citizenship.

Generally, you can get another citizenship in another state, but a U.S. Consular will ask you upon entry whether your intent was to relinquish U.S. Citizenship or not, and that's a complicated process.


I have looked at things on the internet but they've been confusing.

I just want to apply to have dual citizenship in another nation without relinquishing my American citizenship. So, two citizenships.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:36 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Kannap wrote:
The more so issue is what nation I can obtain dual citizenship in without America revoking my citizenship.

Usually, you're born into it, say like me. I have a mother from Mexico who has a Mexican citizenship, yet I was born in America. I get citizenship from America and Mexico due to heritage.
I was originally going to get a Spanish Citizenship as well, but I was born was after my father's side moved to Puerto Rico.

You can get it with marriage or some other ways.


I have my birth certificate from Mexico still somewhere in the house.

I need to go to the Mexican Consulate and figure out whether or not the birth certificate is valid and also talk to the U.S. Consulate and see if by acquiring the Mexican citizenship which I'm supposed to have by birthright if I risk losing my U.S. Citizenship, they'll probably say no but better be safe than sorry.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:38 pm

Kannap wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
You can get another citizenship through marriage without losing your American citizenship.

Generally, you can get another citizenship in another state, but a U.S. Consular will ask you upon entry whether your intent was to relinquish U.S. Citizenship or not, and that's a complicated process.


I have looked at things on the internet but they've been confusing.

I just want to apply to have dual citizenship in another nation without relinquishing my American citizenship. So, two citizenships.


I'm a dual citizen myself (American and Salvadoran). Generally, for U.S. Citizenship your intent counts.

Relinquishing your citizenship has to be voluntary and it has to be filed that your intent was to relinquish your citizenship when you applied for citizenship in a foreign country, which usually requires a form to be filed in the U.S. Consulate office abroad. The only exception comes if we are in a conflict with the country you want to get citizenship on or you are trying to get a government position in the country you are applying on.

In the continent, you can pretty much get any citizenship you want except Cuban and Venezuelan I believe.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:40 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Usually, you're born into it, say like me. I have a mother from Mexico who has a Mexican citizenship, yet I was born in America. I get citizenship from America and Mexico due to heritage.
I was originally going to get a Spanish Citizenship as well, but I was born was after my father's side moved to Puerto Rico.

You can get it with marriage or some other ways.


I have my birth certificate from Mexico still somewhere in the house.

I need to go to the Mexican Consulate and figure out whether or not the birth certificate is valid and also talk to the U.S. Consulate and see if by acquiring the Mexican citizenship which I'm supposed to have by birthright if I risk losing my U.S. Citizenship, they'll probably say no but better be safe than sorry.

I have some work to do on Shakespeare(reenactment), so I'll respond in a bit.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:42 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I have looked at things on the internet but they've been confusing.

I just want to apply to have dual citizenship in another nation without relinquishing my American citizenship. So, two citizenships.


I'm a dual citizen myself (American and Salvadoran). Generally, for U.S. Citizenship your intent counts.

Relinquishing your citizenship has to be voluntary and it has to be filed that your intent was to relinquish your citizenship when you applied for citizenship in a foreign country, which usually requires a form to be filed in the U.S. Consulate office abroad. The only exception comes if we are in a conflict with the country you want to get citizenship on or you are trying to get a government position in the country you are applying on.

In the continent, you can pretty much get any citizenship you want except Cuban and Venezuelan I believe.


Considering Australia, UK, or Canada. I hear they offer dual citizenship.

Rwanda and Sweden, my other choices, don't offer dual citizenship.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:44 pm

Kannap wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'm a dual citizen myself (American and Salvadoran). Generally, for U.S. Citizenship your intent counts.

Relinquishing your citizenship has to be voluntary and it has to be filed that your intent was to relinquish your citizenship when you applied for citizenship in a foreign country, which usually requires a form to be filed in the U.S. Consulate office abroad. The only exception comes if we are in a conflict with the country you want to get citizenship on or you are trying to get a government position in the country you are applying on.

In the continent, you can pretty much get any citizenship you want except Cuban and Venezuelan I believe.


Considering Australia, UK, or Canada. I hear they offer dual citizenship.

Rwanda and Sweden, my other choices, don't offer dual citizenship.


its cold in sweden
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:45 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Considering Australia, UK, or Canada. I hear they offer dual citizenship.

Rwanda and Sweden, my other choices, don't offer dual citizenship.


its cold in sweden

So is it in hell
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Postby DesAnges » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:45 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Kannap wrote:
I have looked at things on the internet but they've been confusing.

I just want to apply to have dual citizenship in another nation without relinquishing my American citizenship. So, two citizenships.


I'm a dual citizen myself (American and Salvadoran). Generally, for U.S. Citizenship your intent counts.

Relinquishing your citizenship has to be voluntary and it has to be filed that your intent was to relinquish your citizenship when you applied for citizenship in a foreign country, which usually requires a form to be filed in the U.S. Consulate office abroad. The only exception comes if we are in a conflict with the country you want to get citizenship on or you are trying to get a government position in the country you are applying on.

In the continent, you can pretty much get any citizenship you want except Cuban and Venezuelan I believe.

I'm going to nitpick but Venezuela is a different continent.
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Postby Kannap » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:46 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kannap wrote:
Considering Australia, UK, or Canada. I hear they offer dual citizenship.

Rwanda and Sweden, my other choices, don't offer dual citizenship.


its cold in sweden


But I have family there.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:46 pm

Kannap wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'm a dual citizen myself (American and Salvadoran). Generally, for U.S. Citizenship your intent counts.

Relinquishing your citizenship has to be voluntary and it has to be filed that your intent was to relinquish your citizenship when you applied for citizenship in a foreign country, which usually requires a form to be filed in the U.S. Consulate office abroad. The only exception comes if we are in a conflict with the country you want to get citizenship on or you are trying to get a government position in the country you are applying on.

In the continent, you can pretty much get any citizenship you want except Cuban and Venezuelan I believe.


Considering Australia, UK, or Canada. I hear they offer dual citizenship.

Rwanda and Sweden, my other choices, don't offer dual citizenship.


You should be fine if you apply for citizenship in those countries. You're going to have to explain your actions to a consular AND not apply for a government position in the UK, Canada, or Australia; so basically have it and be a normal human being. As long as you get into a political position of significant power the U.S. is assuming you are relinquishing your nationality.

And out of all places, why would you choose Rwanda?!
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Postby Anollasia » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:46 pm

Why the hell do I keep getting atheist/antitheist videos in my YouTube suggestions, like ''John Cleese despises Christianity'' or ''Christians get smashed into tiny idiotic shards by English Atheists''', when all I do is listen to music? :blink:

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Postby Ethel mermania » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:46 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
its cold in sweden

So is it in hell


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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:47 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Soldati senza confini wrote:
I'm a dual citizen myself (American and Salvadoran). Generally, for U.S. Citizenship your intent counts.

Relinquishing your citizenship has to be voluntary and it has to be filed that your intent was to relinquish your citizenship when you applied for citizenship in a foreign country, which usually requires a form to be filed in the U.S. Consulate office abroad. The only exception comes if we are in a conflict with the country you want to get citizenship on or you are trying to get a government position in the country you are applying on.

In the continent, you can pretty much get any citizenship you want except Cuban and Venezuelan I believe.

I'm going to nitpick but Venezuela is a different continent.


I take it all of America as a single continent, really.

If we are going to be truly nitpicky, then we can say Venezuela is part of a different geopolitical group.
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