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What is the one thing you'd change in history?

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Postby -Shie- » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:26 pm

I would stop the first human birth.
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Postby United Kingdom of Poland » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:30 pm

wipe out the entire soviet government and military leaders about 3-4 hours before the Prague spring started.
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Postby Solaray » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:32 pm

Prevent the assassination of Franz Ferdinand, probably.

I mean, there are some others too, but this seems the most important that comes to mind.
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Skwar
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Postby Skwar » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:40 pm

Make the Canadians join the American Revolution. :hug:

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Postby Solaray » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:45 pm

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And hurray for a short, cruel, painful life.

Eh, who cares? You wouldn't know the difference.

Such a casual brush off for essentially dooming humanity. As if I needed further proof that primitivism is one of the most vile ideologies in existence.
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Postby Toronina » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:46 pm

Sabotage Hitler's campaign.
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Postby Toronina » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:49 pm

-Shie- wrote:I would stop the first human birth.

So cause a paradox?
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Postby Kubra » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:15 pm

Assassinate Karl Marx as a child, to prove the the inexorable motion of world history towards unchangeable ends
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Postby Toronina » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:18 pm

Kubra wrote:Assassinate Karl Marx as a child, to prove the the inexorable motion of world history towards unchangeable ends

Why Karl Marx, why not someone who actually caused damage?
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Postby MC United » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:27 pm

There was an SF book I once read called "Lest Darkness Fall". A bloke from the 20th century found himself sent back in time to the 6th century in the Roman Empire. Ended up preventing the Dark Ages. One of his throw-away ideas at the end was to sway Justinian to conquer Arabia.

That's what I'd do. No Dark Ages, no al-Qaeda, no ISIS.
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Postby Kubra » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:29 pm

Toronina wrote:
Kubra wrote:Assassinate Karl Marx as a child, to prove the the inexorable motion of world history towards unchangeable ends

Why Karl Marx, why not someone who actually caused damage?
Precisely because I insist that damage is going to occur anyways
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Postby The Vermin Confederation of Mossflower » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:42 pm

I'd tell Hitler and the German High Command to crush the BEF at Dunkirk, capturing thousands of Allied soldiers and putting Britain and thus also the Free French out of the war.

Assuming there are no limits to how I could change history, I'd have the Stalin die in the middle of the German invasion,throwing the USSR into chaos and seeing that state dissolved a whole 50 years early. Having Mosley take charge of the UK would be great too.
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Postby Nuverikstan » Tue Dec 09, 2014 11:43 pm

Either have the US join Germany in World War 1 right from the get go. Which would result in the British Empire being split between America and Germany. Or I would have Texas stay independent, while at the same time miraculously becoming a secondary power.
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Postby Toronina » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:17 am

The Vermin Confederation of Mossflower wrote:I'd tell Hitler and the German High Command to crush the BEF at Dunkirk, capturing thousands of Allied soldiers and putting Britain and thus also the Free French out of the war.

Assuming there are no limits to how I could change history, I'd have the Stalin die in the middle of the German invasion,throwing the USSR into chaos and seeing that state dissolved a whole 50 years early. Having Mosley take charge of the UK would be great too.

So you would basically commend genocide and set the path for a Nazi World?
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Postby The Vermin Confederation of Mossflower » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:23 am

Toronina wrote:
The Vermin Confederation of Mossflower wrote:I'd tell Hitler and the German High Command to crush the BEF at Dunkirk, capturing thousands of Allied soldiers and putting Britain and thus also the Free French out of the war.

Assuming there are no limits to how I could change history, I'd have the Stalin die in the middle of the German invasion,throwing the USSR into chaos and seeing that state dissolved a whole 50 years early. Having Mosley take charge of the UK would be great too.

So you would basically commend genocide and set the path for a Nazi World?


There was and would be no such genocide, and Hitler never dreamed of conquering the world. Nazi Germany would probably dominate the international playing field, but not much more than that.

But it would save the world and most importantly Europe from the continuing degradation and degeneration which it must now seemingly and endlessly suffer. Not to mention we'd finally have a true worker's paradise and a state for once truly concerned with the well-being of it's own citizenry.
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Postby Narland » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:24 am

Independent Nation of Columbia/Country of Oregon

The Provisional Government of 1843 had decided to work for a model of independence with the American, British, Russian, Spanish, French, and Indian populations instead of agreeing to be divided between U.S and Canada, and (a very big and) they managed to stay independent.

It would have been a significant portion of British Columbia (west of the Continental Divide up to 54'40"N lat, the States of Oregon, Washington, Idaho, and parts of Montana, and Wyoming (west of the Continental Divide), bounded on the south by the 42 parallel, and the Pacific Ocean, about as big as France and Germany combined.

What kind of culture would have developed? Being a Pacific Rim nation, how would their alleigences be different than that of US, Canada, and GB? How strong would its economy be? Lots of interesting questions.
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Postby Sternberg » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:25 am

I would have liked to have seen what might have happened had Rome remained the SPQR and not an Imperial power, if the system of government had remained with the Senate and the tribunes, not the imperatorii that rose up in the wake of the Triumvirate's collapse.

True, the cracks in Republican society were beginning to show, but I would wonder what could have occurred if one or more patricians in the Senate chose to focus on repairing burning bridges, rather then ... well, you know what happened ...
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Kalbana
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Postby Kalbana » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:25 am

I would go and shoot Gavrilo Princip

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Switzelbottom
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Postby Switzelbottom » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:30 am

Kill hitler nuff said

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Postby Republic of Coldwater » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:32 am

I'd show Robert E. Lee and show his mistakes at Gettysburg, so he could win the battle and ensure that the CSA secedes.

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Postby Great Franconia and Verana » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:32 am

Make the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada survive the 1993 Election, so we would not be stuck with these Reform takeover Tories.

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Postby L Ron Cupboard » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:36 am

I would save the Library of Alexandria from being destroyed.
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Postby West Aurelia » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:37 am

I'd prevent the birth of Justin Bieber.
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Postby Toronina » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:53 am

The Vermin Confederation of Mossflower wrote:
Toronina wrote:So you would basically commend genocide and set the path for a Nazi World?


There was and would be no such genocide, and Hitler never dreamed of conquering the world. Nazi Germany would probably dominate the international playing field, but not much more than that.

But it would save the world and most importantly Europe from the continuing degradation and degeneration which it must now seemingly and endlessly suffer. Not to mention we'd finally have a true worker's paradise and a state for once truly concerned with the well-being of it's own citizenry.

So now we got a Holocaust denier. I'm not going to even bother.
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Postby Servica » Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:57 am

I would introduce science and technology to the egalitarian hunter-gatherers of the Mesolithic, so neither religion nor social stratification finds a place in the world. :geek:
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