Abortion: Humane or not?

[Kelinfort]

People that give strangers rides home. Helping the elderly cross the street, holding doors for disabled people. Things we have no obligation to do, but do it anyway (sometimes), but don't necessarily make them happy.

If it didn't make us feel like we have done a good deed we wouldn't do it anyways.

Giving a ride home to a stranger, helping the elderly cross the street, and holding doors for disabled people are things that we do to make ourselves feel better. We do it because we want that gratitude, or to be acknowledged as good people by society. You don't do it because it is an obligation, you do it because it helps you feel good about yourself.

I hate to interrupt, but the topic is abortion.

[Redsection]

oh does any one know what a true abortion is anyways one of the first methods of this age was to plave a device inside of the patient which cuts up the fetus the then fetus would be sucked out into a metal dish i know a guy who witnissed this and also abortion is not safe and leads to other problems the woman that got the abortion went into shock due to the process the abortion performed in atlanta and the guy i know whos girlfriend did it is now pro life and a goodwill youth mentor a productive memeber of the community

[Udinia]

Redsection";p="23057890"]Here's the problem I have with that.

Prove that we are unintelligible blobs of cells. Also, prove that a cell's life is more important than a human's.

ok here is my answer to that a human is made of cell if you had no cells you wouldnt exist

Fully functional human > a non sentient cellular mass.

The mother is sentient and functional in society, an embro isn't. For most of the pregnancy the fetus hasn't any sentience to speak of.

[Larthinia]

Cal it bullshit. It was a very old documentary I don't remember.
I am not going to search the whole internet for the source, simply because an unknown person wants proof.

Good, then I'll discount what you say from here on out. If you're not reinforcing your view, then don't debate. That's the purpose of these threads.

I know very well what are the purposes of these kind of threads, my friend.
I am reinforcing my view as much as I can. I can't stay a whole night and search for that documentary, simply because I remembered it. It was just an example of how selfish some people are. And, also, you can claim it wasn't true, it's your right. But that doesn't mean selfishness is not spread through aborting mothers.

[Bilbo McSwagger]

They are not stupid answers, they are facts supported by also other people, which you think are stupid, because you can't face them.

No I think they're stupid because, well, these other people don't exist. You choose not to provide any evidence of these "facts." So naturally, I consider them as stupid as North Korea claiming they have Unicorns.

As I said earlier, I am not going to browse the whole internet for you, who don't even have a soul.

No one has souls. They don't exist. Why do you people have an obsession with that?

Shoes.

[Mavorpen]

oh does any one know what a true abortion is anyways one of the first methods of this age was to plave a device inside of the patient which cuts up the fetus the then fetus would be sucked out into a metal dish i know a guy who witnissed this and also abortion is not safe and leads to other problems the woman that got the abortion went into shock due to the process the abortion performed in atlanta and the guy i know whos girlfriend did it is now pro life and a goodwill youth mentor a productive memeber of the community

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

[Larthinia]

oh does any one know what a true abortion is anyways one of the first methods of this age was to plave a device inside of the patient which cuts up the fetus the then fetus would be sucked out into a metal dish i know a guy who witnissed this and also abortion is not safe and leads to other problems the woman that got the abortion went into shock due to the process the abortion performed in atlanta and the guy i know whos girlfriend did it is now pro life and a goodwill youth mentor a productive memeber of the community

They won't believe it, they want you to "reinforce your view".

[Mavorpen]

oh does any one know what a true abortion is anyways one of the first methods of this age was to plave a device inside of the patient which cuts up the fetus the then fetus would be sucked out into a metal dish i know a guy who witnissed this and also abortion is not safe and leads to other problems the woman that got the abortion went into shock due to the process the abortion performed in atlanta and the guy i know whos girlfriend did it is now pro life and a goodwill youth mentor a productive memeber of the community

They won't believe it, they want you to "reinforce your view".

Oh boo hoo. How dare people ask for evidence for claims.

Truly you are victims of grave injustices.

[Kelinfort]

Good, then I'll discount what you say from here on out. If you're not reinforcing your view, then don't debate. That's the purpose of these threads.

I know very well what are the purposes of these kind of threads, my friend.
I am reinforcing my view as much as I can. I can't stay a whole night and search for that documentary, simply because I remembered it. It was just an example of how selfish some people are. And, also, you can claim it wasn't true, it's your right. But that doesn't mean selfishness is not spread through aborting mothers.

You have google, and just as quickly as you would dismiss a source from Guttmacher, you still have to back up your claim. This is not 1980, this is 2015. You can find one and bring it here, I'll believe you. If you're just voicing your opinion, don't mask it as an actual argument.

[Ashmoria]

oh does any one know what a true abortion is anyways one of the first methods of this age was to plave a device inside of the patient which cuts up the fetus the then fetus would be sucked out into a metal dish i know a guy who witnissed this and also abortion is not safe and leads to other problems the woman that got the abortion went into shock due to the process the abortion performed in atlanta and the guy i know whos girlfriend did it is now pro life and a goodwill youth mentor a productive memeber of the community

abortion is safer than bringing a pregnancy to term.

[Bilbo McSwagger]

oh does any one know what a true abortion is anyways one of the first methods of this age was to plave a device inside of the patient which cuts up the fetus the then fetus would be sucked out into a metal dish i know a guy who witnissed this and also abortion is not safe and leads to other problems the woman that got the abortion went into shock due to the process the abortion performed in atlanta and the guy i know whos girlfriend did it is now pro life and a goodwill youth mentor a productive memeber of the community

One time I saw a guy who witnessed an alien ufo crash. So aliens are real. Spread the word!

[Larthinia]

Anyway, I have to go now.
I wasted enough time with people that don't reinforce their views, but all they do is coming with shit comebacks, not actually presenting some good facts.
I thought you guys are intelligent beings you claim to be.

[Mavorpen]

Anyway, I have to go now.
I wasted enough time with people that don't reinforce their views, but all they do is coming with shit comebacks, not actually presenting some good facts.
I thought you guys are intelligent beings you claim to be.

So "intelligent beings" to you are people who believe things just because other people say them and don't engage in critical thinking?

Brilliant.

[The 502nd SS]

oh does any one know what a true abortion is anyways one of the first methods of this age was to plave a device inside of the patient which cuts up the fetus the then fetus would be sucked out into a metal dish i know a guy who witnissed this and also abortion is not safe and leads to other problems the woman that got the abortion went into shock due to the process the abortion performed in atlanta and the guy i know whos girlfriend did it is now pro life and a goodwill youth mentor a productive memeber of the community

One time I saw a guy who witnessed an alien ufo crash. So aliens are real. Spread the word!

Of course they are, do you really think we're alone in the universe?

[Kelinfort]

Anyway, I have to go now.
I wasted enough time with people that don't reinforce their views, but all they do is coming with shit comebacks, not actually presenting some good facts.
I thought you guys are intelligent beings you claim to be.

Really the best way to exit is to insult your opponents.

Want sources? Here you go.

Induced abortion in the U.S.: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_induced_abortion.html
Decline in abortion rates: http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/gpr/17/2/gpr170202.html
https://guttmacher.org/media/nr/2014/02/03/index.html
http://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-com ... some-women

Took me two fucking seconds.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

oh does any one know what a true abortion is? anyways one of the first methods of this age was to place a device inside of the patient which cuts up the fetus the then fetus would be sucked out into a metal dish. I know a guy who witnessed this. Also abortion is not safe and leads to other problems the woman that got the abortion went into shock due to the process. The abortion was performed in Atlanta and the guy i know whose girlfriend did it is now pro life and a goodwill youth mentor, a productive member of the community

Let this be the first and last time I have to correct your statement, okay?

Now, as for your anecdote, is there any proof that this happened and the year this happened? You say "first methods of this age" which leads me to believe it was when mechanical abortion was still in its infancy, which doesn't bode well for you given that this is 2015, not 1967.

[The 502nd SS]

Do y'all think it should be illegal to have more than one abortion?

[Mavorpen]

Do y'all think it should be illegal to have more than one abortion?

...Why?

[Redsection]

ok anti life people comebacks that are stupid like punctuation and grammer are stupid
oh and google this process this will show you the truth

Curettage: Removal of tissue with a curette from the wall of a cavity or another surface. For example, curettage may be done to remove skin cancer. After a local anesthetic numbs the area, the skin cancer is scooped out with a curette. Curettage may also be done in the uterus; dilation and curettage (D&C) refers to the dilation (widening) of the cervical canal to permit curettage of the endometrium, the inner lining of the uterus.

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/ ... ekey=10985

[The 502nd SS]

Do y'all think it should be illegal to have more than one abortion?

...Why?

To prevent abuse of abortion

There should be some kind of limit on the amount of abortions a women can.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Do y'all think it should be illegal to have more than one abortion?

Not really.

Now, I have moral and ethical issues with forced/pressured abortions (see China's one child policy) but I don't have an issue if it was the woman's choice.

[Ashmoria]

Do y'all think it should be illegal to have more than one abortion?

no

[Mavorpen]

...Why?

To prevent abuse of abortion

...Why?

[The 502nd SS]

Do y'all think it should be illegal to have more than one abortion?

Not really.

Now, I have moral and ethical issues with forced/pressured abortions (see China's one child policy) but I don't have an issue if it was the woman's choice.

While I'm against all abortions, since I can't win, I think there should be a limit at least.

[Ashmoria]

...Why?

To prevent abuse of abortion

There should be some kind of limit on the amount of abortions a women can.

so after a certain number of times she should be forced into having a baby? does forced breeding make more sense after you avoid it a few times?