Abortion: Humane or not?

[Kelinfort]

Yes.

Next asinine question?

You don't seem to take this seriously. Also, it doesn't make any sense. You clearly didn't think about the question, you just wrote 'yes' to anger us.
Believe me, if you were a surviving case of abortion, and the doctors would tell you that, I don't think you would support it, if you claim to be a human with sentiments and brain.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: if my mother did not want me, then I would never have wanted to been born.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

by Redsection » Wed Jan 07, 2015 12:04 pm

simple question

what if you were aborted would you support it

what i mean bye this is if you were aborted tou wouldnt ever be here thus you would have never been able to support abortion and people can talk all they want if you listened in biology a cell is a living organism a complex living organism able to communicate with other cells
now think of yourself you made up of millions of cells and all these cells form to make an organism so practicaly you are nothging more than a blolb of cell so should you be able to be aborted

quote: 'blessed is the mind to small to think"

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Well it is unfortunate that that is what you think, as it is false. In fact, I was going to have a third sister before my mom made the very difficult decision to abort it as we would not have the means to take care of it. Guess what? I am not mad at her in the slightest. It was the correct choice, and hers to make.

Well, it was your sister's life, not your life.

Again, if it was mine, oh well. What does it matter? Asking me if I would care if I was aborted is an insipid question to begin with: I wouldn't be around to care in the first place.

[Mavorpen]

I didn't say that.
And, you didn't put any thought in this comeback. If having children would be illegal, human race would slowly fade up, and you know that.

Why don't you actually read what I posted. I'll wait for you to realize what's wrong with what you responded with.

[Larthinia]

Abortion is wrong and simply disgusting the fact that a woman would be allowed to kill her unborn child just because she doesn't want to deal with it is awful. If she makes a decision to have sex and get pregnant then she should have to raise it or turn it over to the state. There's condoms as well as birth control that people can use to avoid pregnancy if a woman gets pregnant it's because of her lack of responsibility.

Totally agreed.
This is also my opinion.

[Udinia]

Not my point, or intention.

You're obviously an intelligent person, I've read your posts in this thread and others. My point is that making inflammatory remarks in a debate isn't befitting of individuals of intellect, you have no need to resort to such low tactics. If the facts are on your side let them do their job.

I'm not resorting to "low tactics." I don't give a crap about your opinion about me. I have no idea who you are.

If you have anything interesting to say, say it. Otherwise this is a waste of my time.

You don't get it, fine. It's obvious that you're not interested in actually making your point to your opponent in a civil fashion. Keep doing what you're doing, see how far you get in having a debate that's actually productive in any manner.

I still wouldn't care, no. It would have been my mother's choice and if that is the choice she made, she had every right to do so. I fail to see why that is difficult to understand.

I don't think you wouldn't care. You easily say this, because you are not a surviving case of abortion. You are just a probably American guy sitting on the chair and debating this, with a mother who loves you.
If you would have been surviving abortion, and, later, you would find out, you wouldn't be so happy.

It would depend on what stage in the pregnancy the abortion occurred.

[Ashmoria]

I don't know what is so humane about killing a fetus. He is innocent, he didn't even get to live, and he is aborted. That is brutal, if you ask me. But, though, of course it depends on the circumstances. But, in general, I do not recommend making abortions.

its humane because its painless.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

Abortion is wrong and simply disgusting the fact that a woman would be allowed to kill her unborn child just because she doesn't want to deal with it is awful. If she makes a decision to have sex and get pregnant then she should have to raise it or turn it over to the state. There's condoms as well as birth control that people can use to avoid pregnancy if a woman gets pregnant it's because of her lack of responsibility.

Nope, having an abortion displays not a lack of responsibility but quite a lot of it.

This. But I guess my mother was just being irresponsible by making the difficult choice in not raising another child she couldn't financially support along with her other children.

[Larthinia]

I didn't say that.
And, you didn't put any thought in this comeback. If having children would be illegal, human race would slowly fade up, and you know that.

Why don't you actually read what I posted. I'll wait for you to realize what's wrong with what you responded with.

Done.
Also, I don't think making a grammatical mistake should be your comeback, except if you ran out of stupid ideas.

[Redsection]

as i said before
simple question

what if you were aborted would you support it

what i mean bye this is if you were aborted tou wouldnt ever be here thus you would have never been able to support abortion and people can talk all they want if you listened in biology a cell is a living organism a complex living organism able to communicate with other cells
now think of yourself you made up of millions of cells and all these cells form to make an organism so practicaly you are nothging more than a blolb of cell so should you be able to be aborted

quote: 'blessed is the mind to small to think

[Larthinia]

I don't know what is so humane about killing a fetus. He is innocent, he didn't even get to live, and he is aborted. That is brutal, if you ask me. But, though, of course it depends on the circumstances. But, in general, I do not recommend making abortions.

its humane because its painless.

Except that, it is NOT humane.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Abortion is wrong and simply disgusting the fact that a woman would be allowed to kill her unborn child just because she doesn't want to deal with it is awful. If she makes a decision to have sex and get pregnant then she should have to raise it or turn it over to the state. There's condoms as well as birth control that people can use to avoid pregnancy if a woman gets pregnant it's because of her lack of responsibility.

Why do we kill cattle just because we want to eat meat? Why do we kill someone who assault us under the fear they are going to kill us first? Why is that not awful?

Should a serial killer be allowed to live and kill me instead?

Condoms and birth control are not ignorant-proof and they are not 100% effective even if used correctly.

[Bezkoshtovnya]

as i said before
simple question

what if you were aborted would you support it

what i mean bye this is if you were aborted tou wouldnt ever be here thus you would have never been able to support abortion and people can talk all they want if you listened in biology a cell is a living organism a complex living organism able to communicate with other cells
now think of yourself you made up of millions of cells and all these cells form to make an organism so practicaly you are nothging more than a blolb of cell so should you be able to be aborted

quote: 'blessed is the mind to small to think

And as someone also said before,

Yes. Next insipid question.

[Mavorpen]

Why don't you actually read what I posted. I'll wait for you to realize what's wrong with what you responded with.

Done.
Also, I don't think making a grammatical mistake should be your comeback, except if you ran out of stupid ideas.

There was no grammatical mistake.

I'll once again ask you to ACTUALLY read what I posted. Because you clearly still don't understand.

[Kelinfort]

as i said before
simple question

what if you were aborted would you support it

what i mean bye this is if you were aborted tou wouldnt ever be here thus you would have never been able to support abortion and people can talk all they want if you listened in biology a cell is a living organism a complex living organism able to communicate with other cells
now think of yourself you made up of millions of cells and all these cells form to make an organism so practicaly you are nothging more than a blolb of cell so should you be able to be aborted

quote: 'blessed is the mind to small to think

If my mother didn't want me, I don't want her

Simple enough, actually. She had the choice and chose not to. If she was forced to have me, I would feel much worse about her and myself.

[Bilbo McSwagger]

Well, the turtle would give up your life to save itself, too....

Exactly, it's self-interest in surviving.

I'm not saying lives are not important, but from a perspective of "I am important" then fuck yes my life is more important than anyone else's life.

Now, the obvious exception to that rule is children, I'd bite the bullet for one of my children, but that's still a very self-interested affair since I am ensuring my offspring live.

No such thing as altruism. Everything is done for selfish needs and desires. Everything is done because it brings you happiness in one form or another.

[Larthinia]

Well, the turtle would give up your life to save itself, too....

Exactly, it's self-interest in surviving.

I'm not saying lives are not important, but from a perspective of "I am important" then fuck yes my life is more important than anyone else's life.

Now, the obvious exception to that rule is children, I'd bite the bullet for one of my children, but that's still a very self-interested affair since I am ensuring my offspring live.

Then, if that exception is children, then why do abortions happen?

[Soldati Senza Confini]

as i said before
simple question

what if you were aborted would you support it

what i mean bye this is if you were aborted tou wouldnt ever be here thus you would have never been able to support abortion and people can talk all they want if you listened in biology a cell is a living organism a complex living organism able to communicate with other cells
now think of yourself you made up of millions of cells and all these cells form to make an organism so practicaly you are nothging more than a blolb of cell so should you be able to be aborted

quote: 'blessed is the mind to small to think

Here's the problem I have with that.

Prove that we are unintelligible blobs of cells. Also, prove that a cell's life is more important than a human's.

[Larthinia]

Exactly, it's self-interest in surviving.

I'm not saying lives are not important, but from a perspective of "I am important" then fuck yes my life is more important than anyone else's life.

Now, the obvious exception to that rule is children, I'd bite the bullet for one of my children, but that's still a very self-interested affair since I am ensuring my offspring live.

No such thing as altruism. Everything is done for selfish needs and desires. Everything is done because it brings you happiness in one form or another.

Exactly.

[Mavorpen]

Exactly, it's self-interest in surviving.

I'm not saying lives are not important, but from a perspective of "I am important" then fuck yes my life is more important than anyone else's life.

Now, the obvious exception to that rule is children, I'd bite the bullet for one of my children, but that's still a very self-interested affair since I am ensuring my offspring live.

Then, if that exception is children, then why do abortions happen?

Because abortions have nothing to do with children. They deal with fetuses.

[Larthinia]

Then, if that exception is children, then why do abortions happen?

Because abortions have nothing to do with children. They deal with fetuses.

Which are basically children....

[Mavorpen]

Because abortions have nothing to do with children. They deal with fetuses.

Which are basically children....

Nope. Offspring? Sure. "Children" is a term biologically referring to offspring from birth to puberty.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Exactly, it's self-interest in surviving.

I'm not saying lives are not important, but from a perspective of "I am important" then fuck yes my life is more important than anyone else's life.

Now, the obvious exception to that rule is children, I'd bite the bullet for one of my children, but that's still a very self-interested affair since I am ensuring my offspring live.

Then, if that exception is children, then why do abortions happen?

Because a fetus =/= a child.

I'm okay with abortion, I think infanticide is totally wrong. But a fetus is not a child. It has the potential to be one, but it's not a child, clearly.

[Udinia]

Why don't you actually read what I posted. I'll wait for you to realize what's wrong with what you responded with.

Done.
Also, I don't think making a grammatical mistake should be your comeback, except if you ran out of stupid ideas

Stop it.

Exactly, it's self-interest in surviving.

I'm not saying lives are not important, but from a perspective of "I am important" then fuck yes my life is more important than anyone else's life.

Now, the obvious exception to that rule is children, I'd bite the bullet for one of my children, but that's still a very self-interested affair since I am ensuring my offspring live.

No such thing as altruism. Everything is done for selfish needs and desires. Everything is done because it brings you happiness in one form or another.

That's false, humans do things for others all the time that don't necessarily bring them happiness.

[Redsection]

if you say you wouldnt care if you were aborted you must be suicidal or souless it dosent matter if a child is born poor all that matters is that you love a child its half of the person that has it so it would be like killing half of you