Are humans animals? Do animals have souls?

[The GAmeTopians]

They've done a study on that matter at the Creation Museum, if you're interested.

https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/ ... the-flood/

They can't even argue the point without essentially conceding evolution in part has happened, AiG is about as serious a source as The Room is a good film

AiG is almost as bad as whale.to

[Shaggai]

I believe that the native's idea of animism is probably more true than the Christian anthropocentric idea.

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Fuck it, I'm going to start a Roman Pagan cult.

Has almost certainly been done.

[KAS SRD]

Feelin’ salty?!

Something else to be addressed is the ocean’s salinity. Current estimates put it at an average of 35 ppt (parts per thousand; i.e., 35 grams of salt per 1,000 grams of water), whereas freshwater is less than 0.5 ppt. Skeptics assume that it has taken millions and billions of years for the ocean to become this salty based on current rates. They presume the current salinity to be about the same as at the time of the Flood, since it happened around 4,400 years ago. But this is an unfounded assumption as Dr. Russell Humphreys has pointed out,

Every year, rivers and other sources dump over 450 million tons of sodium into the ocean. Only 27% of this sodium manages to get back out of the sea each year. As far as anyone knows, the remainder simply accumulates in the ocean. If the sea had no sodium to start with, it would have accumulated its present amount in less than 42 million years at today’s input and output rates. This is much less than the evolutionary age of the ocean, three billion years (emphasis original).2

There is more than one feasible scenario for the salinity of the ocean, but what follows is the most likely. First, it is possible that the water had salinity similar to that of freshwater before the Flood. Second, it is possible there was a lower salt concentration, similar to brackish water (0.5-30 ppt), during most of the Flood, and that the current salinity is a result of floodwater runoff from the continents, volcanism, and current deposition from rain and rivers. It is not likely the salinity was roughly the same during the inundation stages of the Flood as it is now. But even if it was, it would still not have been a problem for plants to survive. The main point is that skeptics cannot arbitrarily assume the floodwater salinity, since they were not there to measure it. Remember, the ultimate goal of most skeptics is to undermine the Scriptures. So the possibility is left open that the salinity of the floodwaters could have been much less than the ocean’s current salinity.

Sodium isn't the only salt in the ocean. In fact, it's more magnesium chloride, Potassium salts, and a few others. So dishonest you can see it FROM SPACE.

Besides, the pressure would've killed the trees. Face it, you're resorting to magic.

Hey, if your going to deny most of science and logic, why not deny the rest of it! Honestly though, that's what I've always found odd about Creationists. They accept science found the same way as the rest of it, but deny others despite there being no real diference except their strict, largely denounced view was against it.

[Scyobayrynn]

Funny enough scripture disagrees.

My response:

Actually scripture teaches that animals have a spirit - the breath of life - but humans are the ones who rule the earth and the animals. Animals are ignorant and do not have a soul (there is a difference between the soul of a human and the non-soul life of an animal).

At any rate, do you think animals have souls? Are humans animals?

Whose scripture?

Do we have a monopoly on the concept of spirit now?

Did we get all the franchises under one umbrella? Hot damn!

[Val Halla]

We are animals. We kill barbaricly, we don't care for other species, and we punish the weak.

[Kincoboh]

They've done a study on that matter at the Creation Museum, if you're interested.

https://answersingenesis.org/the-flood/ ... the-flood/

They can't even argue the point without essentially conceding evolution in part has happened, AiG is about as serious a source as The Room is a good film

Oh Hai Mark

[Soldati Senza Confini]

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Fuck it, I'm going to start a Roman Pagan cult.

Has almost certainly been done.

I'm going to start a Roman Pagan cult to the god Apollo.

There, happy?

[The GAmeTopians]

Has almost certainly been done.

I'm going to start a Roman Pagan cult to the god Apollo.

There, happy?

I'll join it, and expand it

[Olthar]

Are humans animals?

Yes.

Do animals have souls?

No.


Next!

[Dewhurst-Narculis]

Has almost certainly been done.

I'm going to start a Roman Pagan cult to the godApollo a Buddist Cinema filled with Yule Logs.

There, happy?

Fixed

[Kincoboh]

Has almost certainly been done.

I'm going to start a Roman Pagan cult to the god Apollo.

There, happy?

Please do! Make life more interesting. I love contemporary paganism.

[Olerand]

Has almost certainly been done.

I'm going to start a Roman Pagan cult to the god Apollo.

There, happy?

There are some Celtic neopagans that come and do some celebration in our region over the summer, and I once attended one, just to see.

Very nice people, very cute traditions. I approve of your efforts.

Thankfully they're not of the far-right variety who advocate for neopaganism.

[Benuty]

Are humans animals?

Yes.

Do animals have souls?

No.


Next!

You say that despite the fact you sapient horses excuse me..."Ponies" know better.

[Aethrys]

yes, humans are animals as they exhibit all of the traits requisite for an organism to be classified under kingdom animalia. No, animals most likely do not have souls because no evidence has been produced that supports the existence of souls.

[MERIZoC]

I believe that the native's idea of animism is probably more true than the Christian anthropocentric idea.

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Fuck it, I'm going to start a Roman Pagan cult.

I know UMN would join.

[United Marxist Nations]

As a materialist, I reject the notion of the soul.

[United Marxist Nations]

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Fuck it, I'm going to start a Roman Pagan cult.

I know UMN would join.

Speak of the devil, and the devil shall appear.

[MERIZoC]

I know UMN would join.

Speak of the devil, and the devil shall appear.

Goddamit, he's good.

[Scyobayrynn]

I'm going to start a Roman Pagan cult to the god Apollo.

There, happy?

Please do! Make life more interesting. I love contemporary paganism.

Contemporary Paganism is awful.

If youre going to start a pagan cult resurrect an old as best you can, big tent revival. We have enough crystals and Motivational Speakers, give me sword dancing and may poles and winter fires, and blood and songs.

Give me a pagan I can get drunk and fight with.


Can a backsliding Christian get some Odinists or classical Druids up in here, not you Earth religions I mean you who venerate the Ancestors. !Thats a party!

also relevant:
http://youtu.be/6RBP8_QSg-c

[Olthar]

Yes.


No.


Next!

You say that despite the fact you sapient horses excuse me..."Ponies" know better.

Ain't no pony ghosts I've ever seen. And if there was a pony afterlife, why have Celestia and Luna made themselves immortal?

[United Marxist Nations]

On the subject of an afterlife, fuck that; becoming the Matrix for me.

[Utceforp]

First question: Yes.

Second question: No, and neither do we.

[Benuty]

You say that despite the fact you sapient horses excuse me..."Ponies" know better.

Ain't no pony ghosts I've ever seen. And if there was a pony afterlife, why have Celestia and Luna made themselves immortal?

Their vanity exploited by Papa Legba for one.

I mean why else would they sacrifice an innocent mortal once every year?

[Kelinfort]

You say that despite the fact you sapient horses excuse me..."Ponies" know better.

Ain't no pony ghosts I've ever seen. And if there was a pony afterlife, why have Celestia and Luna made themselves immortal?

Because immortality is fucking awesome if you don't age?

[Benuty]

On the subject of an afterlife, fuck that; becoming the Matrix for me.

No thanks, I'd rather not live in a blue, and orange zone.