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How the heck did Hitler come to power?

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Lied well but the Germans did NOT love him
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How the heck did Hitler come to power?

Postby Sociomarketist Yugoslavia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:52 pm

How the heck did Hitler come to power?

I suppose like any politician. He could lie well, got into power and then he fixed the German economy and the Germans loved him for it and allowed him to stay the dictator.

Your thoughts?
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:53 pm

He played to the Christian anti-Semitism that had been growing in Germany for quite some time. Your OP could be a bit more fleshed out, by the way.
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Postby -Shie- » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:53 pm

Television wasn't invented so millions of people weren't disgusted by his physical ugliness. He came through power with the radio and the propaganda tools of his time. After visual media became so popular a person as ugly as Adolf Hitler would have no chance at becoming a leader. It was the perfect time for him.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:54 pm

It was both what Mav said and the fact he was charismatic.

He knew how to play the crowd on his favor. Even if he was an obvious mad man.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:54 pm

The right message at the right time.

I had a great-aunt who met him once. She said he was interesting and you would have never guessed he would do what he did.....
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:56 pm

-Shie- wrote:Television wasn't invented so millions of people weren't disgusted by his physical ugliness.


This may surprise you, but Hitler was considered the "handsome face" of the German Ultranationalist völkisch movement, and his visage was prominently featured on election campaign posters. Compare and contrast him to his co-conspirator of the Munich coup, Erich Ludendorff.

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Postby Bezombia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:56 pm

He was democratically elected.

If you mean why, then the answer is he knew how to talk. Anyone who knows what to say can get whatever they want.
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Postby -Shie- » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:57 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:It was both what Mav said and the fact he was charismatic.

He knew how to play the crowd on his favor. Even if he was an obvious mad man.
He wouldn't have lasted long today with his long narrow head shape and non-symmetrical facial hair.
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Postby Dernia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:57 pm

He was voted in of course how else like any politician he campaigned and won.
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Postby -Shie- » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:57 pm

Bezombia wrote:He was democratically elected.

If you mean why, then the answer is he knew how to talk. Anyone who knows what to say can get whatever they want.

He's lucky that all he had to do was talk.
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Postby Ohioan Territory » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:57 pm

Germany was a shithole. Everybody was poor & embarrassed after a loss in World War I. Shit economy. Not much of a military.

By using a scapegoat (non-Aryans), eliminating other political foes, use nationalistic tactics, and undermining the German people, Hitler could easily take power.

Oh, yeah, he persuaded Hindenburg for a spot of power, as well.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:58 pm

This is really more of a google question, since the answer isn't very subjective.

But your poll is off. He was very popular, and it was really more of a belief that he would restore Germany to greatness rather than a belief that he was necessary to protect Germany that lead to him being elected.

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Postby Scyobayrynn » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:58 pm

Mavorpen wrote:He played to the Christian anti-Semitism that had been growing in Germany for quite some time. Your OP could be a bit more fleshed out, by the way.

Why is it that on NSG every single evil in the last 2000 years is connected to Christians no matter how contrived the connection is?
Your statement is base and remedial, it simplifies Hitler and his parties rise to power to such an astounding degree that it turn it to fiction all for the sake of giving you the ability to indict Christianity for yet another thing.
Seriously its fucking exhausting, and insulting.
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Postby -Shie- » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:58 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
-Shie- wrote:Television wasn't invented so millions of people weren't disgusted by his physical ugliness.


This may surprise you, but Hitler was considered the "handsome face" of the German Ultranationalist völkisch movement, and his visage was prominently featured on election campaign posters. Compare and contrast him to his co-conspirator of the Munich coup, Erich Ludendorff.

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Show me a source right now damn it.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:59 pm

Scyobayrynn wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:He played to the Christian anti-Semitism that had been growing in Germany for quite some time. Your OP could be a bit more fleshed out, by the way.

Why is it that on NSG every single evil in the last 2000 years is connected to Christians no matter how contrived the connection is?
Your statement is base and remedial, it simplifies Hitler and his parties rise to power to such an astounding degree that it turn it to fiction all for the sake of giving you the ability to indict Christianity for yet another thing.
Seriously its fucking exhausting, and insulting.

Ok.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:59 pm

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:00 pm

Scyobayrynn wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:He played to the Christian anti-Semitism that had been growing in Germany for quite some time. Your OP could be a bit more fleshed out, by the way.

Why is it that on NSG every single evil in the last 2000 years is connected to Christians no matter how contrived the connection is?
Your statement is base and remedial, it simplifies Hitler and his parties rise to power to such an astounding degree that it turn it to fiction all for the sake of giving you the ability to indict Christianity for yet another thing.
Seriously its fucking exhausting, and insulting.


Wut.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:01 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Scyobayrynn wrote:Why is it that on NSG every single evil in the last 2000 years is connected to Christians no matter how contrived the connection is?
Your statement is base and remedial, it simplifies Hitler and his parties rise to power to such an astounding degree that it turn it to fiction all for the sake of giving you the ability to indict Christianity for yet another thing.
Seriously its fucking exhausting, and insulting.


Wut.

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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:01 pm

-Shie- wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
This may surprise you, but Hitler was considered the "handsome face" of the German Ultranationalist völkisch movement, and his visage was prominently featured on election campaign posters. Compare and contrast him to his co-conspirator of the Munich coup, Erich Ludendorff.

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Show me a source right now damn it.


A source for what? That Ludendorff was way uglier than Hitler?
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Postby Scomagia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:02 pm

He appealed to the antisemitism popular at the time by using the Jews as a scapegoat for Germany's economic troubles.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:02 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Scyobayrynn wrote:Why is it that on NSG every single evil in the last 2000 years is connected to Christians no matter how contrived the connection is?
Your statement is base and remedial, it simplifies Hitler and his parties rise to power to such an astounding degree that it turn it to fiction all for the sake of giving you the ability to indict Christianity for yet another thing.
Seriously its fucking exhausting, and insulting.

Ok.

So the atheists should be blamed? That was already tried in another thread, it got locked. And it is true that European anti-Semitism is very much the product of centuries of Christian bigotry. Mavorpen actually has a point there.
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Postby -Shie- » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:02 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:You have the greatest source of information in history at your fingertips. Why don't you look it up?

I'm busier than you, that's why I don't look it up. Hitler was claimed to be the handsome face of his time as a candidate. I can justify any argument I made today with logic and evidence and I have done it. The same better be done for me or you're wasting my time and your time.
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Postby Ardavia » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:03 pm

He was a smooth talker who used the situation in Germany (Inflation, the feeling of humiliation from the Versailles treaty, and so on) to his favour and was elected into power.

Then he took measures to ensure that he stayed in power. He also provided jobs (Autobahn construction, factories, etc) for the population, and had an excellent propaganda machine working for him.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:05 pm

Scyobayrynn wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:He played to the Christian anti-Semitism that had been growing in Germany for quite some time. Your OP could be a bit more fleshed out, by the way.

Why is it that on NSG every single evil in the last 2000 years is connected to Christians no matter how contrived the connection is?
Your statement is base and remedial, it simplifies Hitler and his parties rise to power to such an astounding degree that it turn it to fiction all for the sake of giving you the ability to indict Christianity for yet another thing.
Seriously its fucking exhausting, and insulting.


:blink: So he wasn't anti-Semitic?
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Postby West Cambridgeshire » Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:05 pm

He offered revenge.

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