Ban on atheism

[In Gentem Et De Libris Scientiam]

Bad Christians:
KKK
King Leopold?
Spanish Inquisition
The Crusades
Those people that screw the indians and africans over?
Hitler
Pol Pot (screw the fact he is not Christian. He's Buddhist)
and lots more.

[Skinia]

hitler was catholic

He was raised Catholic but became atheist. Why would he be part of a religion that worships a Jew?

Ignorance.

[Bobpire]

I don't think you know about the "Pari de Pascal"...
It can be quite interesting for ya...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

No. Pascal's wager says "Hey believe in god because if he does exist and you don't believe in him, you're screwed."
Using that logic, you have to believe in every faith just in case it exists, but then you'll go to every hell anyway.

[Shallia]

hitler was catholic

He was raised Catholic but became atheist. Why would he be part of a religion that worships a Jew?

incorrect he remained catholic. it is wondered why considering he hated jews but he stayed catholic

[The Alma Mater]

hitler was catholic

He was raised Catholic but became atheist. Why would he be part of a religion that worships a Jew?

Because his ideology was very similar to Judaism ?
In addition, "not being christian" is not the same as "atheist".

[New Socialist South Africa]

hitler was catholic

He was raised Catholic but became atheist. Why would he be part of a religion that worships a Jew?

No. He was raised Catholic but became Occultist. He openly spoke about destroying Atheism.

[All Natural France]

Hitler - Catholic

Hitler was raised a catholic, but never defined as one real religion due to his materialistic desires and his dismissal of religion and insensitivity of religion, though some people agree he wasn't a atheist.

[Smoya]

Why are so many people here putting lists of evil people that were Atheist or Theist? It's all useless, and frankly doesn't prove a point.

[Scomagia]

0/10 for contribution.

The letters of your name are green so guess what that means?

I never claimed to be a mod, so I'm not sure what your point is. Posters can't criticize the lack of content in a post?

[Lunalia]

He was raised Catholic but became atheist. Why would he be part of a religion that worships a Jew?

incorrect he remained catholic. it is wondered why considering he hated jews but he stayed catholic

Incorrect, but I'm honestly not sure what you'd call the religion that Hitler and the SS invented.

[Archeuland and Baughistan]

I have found my source now:

"Virtually all of the 55 writers and signers of the United States Constitution of 1787 were members of Christian denominations. 29 were Anglicans, 16 to 18 were Calvinists, 2 were Methodists, 2 were Lutherans, 2 were Roman Catholic, 1 changed between Anglican and Quaker, and one was Deist."

Page 154, America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations

[All Natural France]

incorrect he remained catholic. it is wondered why considering he hated jews but he stayed catholic

Incorrect, but I'm honestly not sure what you'd call the religion that Hitler and the SS invented.

Still incorrect.

Hitler was raised a catholic, but never defined as one real religion due to his materialistic desires and his dismissal of religion and insensitivity of religion.

[Aelex]

I don't think you know about the "Pari de Pascal"...
It can be quite interesting for ya...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_Wager

No. Pascal's wager says "Hey believe in god because if he does exist and you don't believe in him, you're screwed."
Using that logic, you have to believe in every faith just in case it exists, but then you'll go to every hell anyway.

Not really. If you believe in only one, the three mono-theist faiths are so close that you can be sure to go to heaven anyway...

[New Socialist South Africa]

Why are so many people here putting lists of evil people that were Atheist or Theist? It's all useless, and frankly doesn't prove a point.

Because, as we all know, if one member of a particular group is a murderous killer all members of that group must be murderous killers, obviously.

[All Natural France]

I have found my source now:

"Virtually all of the 55 writers and signers of the United States Constitution of 1787 were members of Christian denominations. 29 were Anglicans, 16 to 18 were Calvinists, 2 were Methodists, 2 were Lutherans, 2 were Roman Catholic, 1 changed between Anglican and Quaker, and one was Deist."

Page 154, America's God and Country Encyclopedia of Quotations

I also found the Bible of threadjacking, which is in your hands. Best you get rid of it.
In otherwords, stop the threadjack.

[Pandeeria]

Atheism should be banned. We're all better off without it.

List of famous atheists
Hitler
Kim-Jong Un
Mao
Fidel Castro
Stalin
Che Guevara
Obama
Pol Pot

Hitler=christian
Kim-Jong Un=Kim-jong Unian
Pol pot=Buddhist
what did Che Guevara do?
Fidel Castros religion is disputed
Stalin was orthodox
Mao is.... disputed.


If i did a list of bad christians....... the internet would die. Oh and The vatican would have a bounty on my head.

Pol Pot was insanely atheist.

Joseph Stalin was Orthodox Christian in his early life. However by the time he went crazy, took power, and had all those mass purges, he was atheist and encouraged state atheism. Not for the sake of actual atheism, but for further increasing his power.

[Lunalia]

Why are so many people here putting lists of evil people that were Atheist or Theist? It's all useless, and frankly doesn't prove a point.

Someone was attempting to make a list of people who were evil and atheists, to prove that atheism should be banned, trying to demonstrate that there are no good atheists. Except most of the people on that list (possibly all) were not, in fact, atheists. So people are correcting the list, and responding in kind with more evil theists.

[Soviet Haaregrad]

has anyone else noticed alot of people are noting 'evil atheists' even though most of the people on the list have a religion of some sort. here are some evil theists.

Hitler - Catholic
Bin Laden - Muslim
Stalin - Georgian Orthodox
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (leader of I.S.) - Muslim
Castro - disputed (Catholic or Secular)

Just to name a few.

To be fair, Stalin was raised Orthodox and went to a seminary, but in his personal life was quite open and vocal in his support for atheism.
Hitler's religious views are virtually impossible to be certain of, given the number of contradictory statements and stances he took. Even if Hitler was an atheist, he made no attempt to make atheism the German Empire's official position and he certainly wasn't a Secular Humanist like most western atheists are.

[Shallia]

incorrect he remained catholic. it is wondered why considering he hated jews but he stayed catholic

Incorrect, but I'm honestly not sure what you'd call the religion that Hitler and the SS invented.

"Hitler's architect Albert Speer believed he had "no real attachment" to Catholicism, but that he had never formally left the Church." so technically still catholic

[Rapanatcha]

Only Christians realize that murder is bad: Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill.”

15:13 “That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death

Please explain if I don't understand but doesn't those two statement kind of contradict each other ? I mean you do not murder unless they don't agree with you then it's ok ?

[The Alma Mater]

No. Pascal's wager says "Hey believe in god because if he does exist and you don't believe in him, you're screwed."
Using that logic, you have to believe in every faith just in case it exists, but then you'll go to every hell anyway.

Not really. If you believe in only one, the three mono-theist faiths are so close that you can be sure to go to heaven anyway...

Unless one of the other faiths is correct of course.
Or unless you picked the right faith, but the god in question is "not amused" by your worship "just for the shot at heaven".

[Eastern Equestria]

What is your definition of free will?

In the context of the current discussion? I'd define free will as the alleged human capacity to make truly free and individual moral decisions, in which the only thing affecting our decision would be the allegedly objective morality of Christianity, with no pre-existing conditions leading up to our minds choosing one in particular.

The absence of pre-existing factors which would effect our choices is a loaded condition. By that definition there's obviously no such thing as free will.

In those terms, I say free will does not exist in the sense that no person is entirely responsible of their actions, thoughts or emotions, and thus it cannot be honestly argued that the existence of evil in our world is merely a matter of a deity granting humans "free will", and humans knowingly and freely choosing to do evil.

If a deity had granted us with free will then obviously it was his intention for us to use it accordingly. Otherwise he would have simply created us to be compleletely compliant with his alleged wishes. Which is part of the reason why I'm an atheist. Even if said God did exist,
I'd never lend my undying faith to such a counterintuitive entity.

Back to free will, just because the choices we make can be explained by our experiences and conditioning, does not mean that we were not in control of making those choices.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

One of my friends came forward and told me he was an atheist. I asked him why he was an atheist and he said, "I prayed to God for help, but he never helped me." That's no reason to disbelieve in God. Do you atheists seriously think he will help you with everything. Creator put you on earth to fix your mistakes. He won't solve the problems you caused. And stop blaming him for taking away people you care about. It's not his fault you failed or lost someone.

Those who disbelieve in God are what I call 'clouded minds'. You don't realise you are one until you are freed from corruption. I know from experience. I was once a disbeliever and then came to realise that people are not educated on who God actually is and how religion and science can coexist.

Atheism should be banned because it is very wrong. I seriously think these atheists should read the Bible! I hate it when some kids these days say that they are atheist, it is absolutely WRONG.

Every Christian knows Atheists have no morals because they think they can ignore God’s Holy Bible. Some of them even deny the existence of Hell! They murder, steal and rape all the time as if there is no tomorrow. It is no coincidence that most criminals are Atheists. It is time to stop all this! It is a known fact that Atheists like nothing more but killing unborn children (abortion) and defenseless elders (euthanasia).

Christians know that life begins BEFORE conception: Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.”

Only Christians realize that murder is bad: Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill.”

There can be only one conclusion! Atheism has to be outlawed, just like the Bible tells us: 2nd Chronicles 15:13 “That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman”.

Okay first off let's get this out of the way:

Atheists lack a belief in God for several reasons.

Also, you just shot your own argument in the foot if you are a Christian: A god which is tauted to be omnipotent, omnisapient, and omnibenevolent would help one of his children.

Hence, although some people might think this is heretical, I actually don't believe God is all these things.

Clouded minds? For having a different opinion? Talk about some high horse parochial bullshit. You do realize that you came to this realization on your own that you actually believed in God. Other people think differently, and other people's desires are to enjoy the world as is and be freed of "pseudo-intellectual baggage" such as a faith-conceived deity.

Atheists have read the bible, many times over. Atheists are even more educated than Christians on our own book. Which to be perfectly frank should be pitiful.

This is a splendid strawman. Atheists have no morals. Really? Do you even know what you're speaking of? Atheists have morals and ethics, just like Christians. Difference is they don't depend on some deity to punish them. And abortion and euthanasia are perfectly legal and consensual procedures that a patient CHOOSES and has been in practice for thousands of years.

Christians don't know that. Scientists do. And even then abortion is generally done before the baby develops fully (before the third trimester). Also, ironically, the conception of life before being born is only something modern Christians taut. Christians before our time and before the advent of embriology were even less invested in this. They just thought that the fetus was nothing, and that what's in the womb isn't human until they are born. Now with the advent of embriology and our discoveries on early births and viability there's even a more blurred line between humanity and non-humanity.

Christians know that, but they don't think about it when they kill someone (yes, Christian individuals at any time can and have killed people, let's not play stupid here).

Nice, a Christian who follows the Old Testament. What's next, you're going to make us bash our enemies' babies' heads against rocks?

[Crysuko]

Only Christians realize that murder is bad: Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill.”

15:13 “That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death

Please explain if I don't understand but doesn't those to statement kind of contradict each other ? I mean you do not murder unless they don't agree with you then it's ok ?

i'd best get used to it, the bible is full of contradictions like this

[The Black Forrest]

Hitler - Catholic

Hitler was raised a catholic, but never defined as one real religion due to his materialistic desires and his dismissal of religion and insensitivity of religion.

Sooooo?.......Stalin and Hitler did what they did because of their assumed conversions to atheism?