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Postby Lunatic Goofballs » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:25 am

Ifreann wrote:
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:In Connecticut, you have to be at least 16 to operate a motor vehicle(a multi-ton conglomeration of steel and glass) on public roads with thousands of other people in any weather at any time of day or night without restriction. However, you have to be 18 to operate a deli slicer because you might cut off your thumb.

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A metal box on wheels powered by explosions is obviously far safer than a deli slicer.


When you put it like that, I'm convinced. :)
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Postby Bluth Corporation » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:48 am

If you can't understand why age restrictions are generally a good idea, you're not mature enough to be the exception. And those exceptions do exist, but you're not one of them.
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Postby Warkus » Mon Jan 11, 2010 1:59 pm

I'm not sure everyone sees my point, i'm not talking about letting 11 year olds fly rockets, just some basic lowerings in some things . Some things have ridiculous age restrictions, some have restrictions that are needed.


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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:36 pm

Boo to age restrictions.
HOORAY BEER!

*bonus points to who knows that beer commercial :P*

and age restrictions suck. makes you break the rules because you have to wait for it...

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Postby Dazchan » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:36 pm

I can see why a first aid course should have age restrictions.

Being a teacher, I know quite a few 11 year olds, and most of them wouldn't by physically able to give CPR correctly - they wouldn't be able to do the compressions hard enough, and the ones that could do it hard enough wouldn't be able to keep it up for a prolonged period.
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Postby Buffett and Colbert » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:38 pm

Deal with it.
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Postby EvilDarkMagicians » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:40 pm

Buffett and Colbert wrote:Deal with it.


^This.
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:40 pm

Dazchan wrote:I can see why a first aid course should have age restrictions.

Being a teacher, I know quite a few 11 year olds, and most of them wouldn't by physically able to give CPR correctly - they wouldn't be able to do the compressions hard enough, and the ones that could do it hard enough wouldn't be able to keep it up for a prolonged period.


they teach some of the CPR steps to 11 year old Boy Scouts as a part to rank up. Why bother here?

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Postby Parthenon » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:56 pm

Heres an idea, grow up...

An 11 year old doesn't have the muscular development to roll an unconscious adult on their side let alone the ability to understand the implications of improper treatment... Be rational and dial 911 in an emergency.
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:58 pm

Parthenon wrote:Heres an idea, grow up...

An 11 year old doesn't have the muscular development to roll an unconscious adult on their side let alone the ability to understand the implications of improper treatment... Be rational and dial 911 in an emergency.

who said anything about adults? what if one of his friends hurt themselves out somewhere and no one is around that can help but him?
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Postby Parthenon » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:03 pm

Lackadaisical2 wrote:
Parthenon wrote:Heres an idea, grow up...

An 11 year old doesn't have the muscular development to roll an unconscious adult on their side let alone the ability to understand the implications of improper treatment... Be rational and dial 911 in an emergency.

who said anything about adults? what if one of his friends hurt themselves out somewhere and no one is around that can help but him?

In medical emergencies doing nothing can very well be better than doing the wrong thing or improperly performing a step. If an emergency does require a person to perform an action the 911 operator will give instructions over the phone until help arrives.


Also: What the fuck is an 11 year old doing unsupervised?
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Postby Call to power » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:04 pm

I personally think we should actually start enforcing age restrictions like for instance getting rid of squeeky 12 year olds from the internet like so many clogged pores under waves of clearasil
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Postby Lackadaisical2 » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:33 pm

Parthenon wrote:
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Parthenon wrote:Heres an idea, grow up...

An 11 year old doesn't have the muscular development to roll an unconscious adult on their side let alone the ability to understand the implications of improper treatment... Be rational and dial 911 in an emergency.

who said anything about adults? what if one of his friends hurt themselves out somewhere and no one is around that can help but him?

In medical emergencies doing nothing can very well be better than doing the wrong thing or improperly performing a step.

Agreed, clearly the kid needs some medical training.
If an emergency does require a person to perform an action the 911 operator will give instructions over the phone until help arrives.

Presuming they're out in the bush or something? No cell phone for whatever reason, besides, in this case, it certainly wouldn't hurt for the kid to have some basic understanding of what should be done anyway.

Also: What the fuck is an 11 year old doing unsupervised?

Hell if I know :P
But usually before 15 kids aren't under constant watch of their parents.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:57 pm

Daistallia 2104 wrote:I think maybe you should worry less about what first aid courses you can take, and concentrate on your school work. You appear to be failing English class...


Considering the state of education in South Australia let alone Yallah, I'm not surprised it is this poor.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:59 pm

Mean Feat wrote:From the St. John's website, conditions of participating in a Senior First Aid course:

Prerequisite
Participants must be 14 years or older. Participants under 14 years must provide written permission to attend the course from their parent or legal guardian.


(If the link doesn't work, go to it's parent page St John's Queensland and click on 'read more' under 'book a First Aid course').

The first and second sentences contradict each other. The rule could be read either way.

Therefore, it is worth calling another office (Towoomba or Gold Coast) and seeing if you get a different answer. Or call the State office.

If you really want to throw your weight around like an adult, apply in writing.


Check what it Saint Johns South Australia says not Queensland.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:01 pm

Parthenon wrote:Also: What the fuck is an 11 year old doing unsupervised?


Masturbating.
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Postby Blouman Empire » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:03 pm

Warkus wrote:People, i am 11 years old. And today i phoned St.Johns First Aid Course Centre in Whyalla(Australia).


:o :o :o :o :o

Dude, I'm from Y-town, well not from Windalla but I did live there for over 10 years.

Guess what? You have to be 15 , which is a punch in the pants since i really interested in doing a first aid course. And personally someone who is 11 isn't a guaranteed intellcually insuperior to someone who is age 15. When i asked the reason for the restriction they claimed "Children under 15 should not be in control of someones life in a dangerous situation as they may not remember what to do or fall under the pressure" Pressure? Memory? Oh please i'm not exactly 2 here, it's not that hard to "handle the pressure" and remembering? Children have better memories than adults so i don't know what she was on about. Besides thats just my story, many children "under the right age" have been denied access to certain things, even though they are comeptant enough. Of course i understand about alcohol and ciggarettes and things like that.


I'm surprised the cadets do actually have to be 15 at least. I swear

But enough about me. Some age restrictions have either got to be lowered or abolished completly, it is tearing some possible important things from childrens lives. Back in the old day children hanged around their suburb with basically no restrictions to what they can do. Sure theirs some downs but theirs some ups too.


Yes some age restrictions do seem ridiculous and simply arbitrary some reasons because the government placed it in to make it seem that they are doing something while others are placed in for good reasons.
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Postby JuNii » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:13 pm

Lunatic Goofballs wrote:In Connecticut, you have to be at least 16 to operate a motor vehicle(a multi-ton conglomeration of steel and glass) on public roads with thousands of other people in any weather at any time of day or night without restriction. However, you have to be 18 to operate a deli slicer because you might cut off your thumb.

:blink:


again, the point is made.

how many car accidents are reported daily? weekly? monthy?

how many Deli Slicer accidents are also reported for the same time period. :p
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Postby Laos Refugees » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:16 pm

You're right, age restrictions are terrible! We should change it so parents can bottle-feed babies vodka!

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Postby Warkus » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:22 pm

Blouman Empire wrote:
Parthenon wrote:Also: What the fuck is an 11 year old doing unsupervised?


Masturbating.

Indeed.
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Postby Risottia » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:33 pm

greed and death wrote:
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greed and death wrote:I was certified in first aid through the boy scouts when I was 8.


I'm afraid that the OPer is looking for an higher degree of certification.

No it was about as high of a certification as you can get without getting an emergency medical Tech certification.

Weird. Nothing between a boy-scout grade and professional certification? Huge gap, I'd guess.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:40 pm

Risottia wrote:
greed and death wrote:
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greed and death wrote:I was certified in first aid through the boy scouts when I was 8.


I'm afraid that the OPer is looking for an higher degree of certification.

No it was about as high of a certification as you can get without getting an emergency medical Tech certification.

Weird. Nothing between a boy-scout grade and professional certification? Huge gap, I'd guess.

There is the AED {Automated external defibrillator}certification. But the AED didn't exist when I was in the scouts.
Most of the adults today just learn CPR. in the scouts I learned CPR, how to splint broken bones and how to make a tourniquet.
the only time I learned more first aid wise was in the combat lifer saver program in the army. and that was stuff like boarder line professional stuff like giving IV's, J tube insertion(collapsed airway.), and such.
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Postby Risottia » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:47 pm

greed and death wrote:
Risottia wrote:
greed and death wrote:
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greed and death wrote:I was certified in first aid through the boy scouts when I was 8.


I'm afraid that the OPer is looking for an higher degree of certification.

No it was about as high of a certification as you can get without getting an emergency medical Tech certification.

Weird. Nothing between a boy-scout grade and professional certification? Huge gap, I'd guess.

There is the AED {Automated external defibrillator}certification. But the AED didn't exist when I was in the scouts.
Most of the adults today just learn CPR. in the scouts I learned CPR, how to splint broken bones and how to make a tourniquet.
the only time I learned more first aid wise was in the combat lifer saver program in the army. and that was stuff like boarder line professional stuff like giving IV's, J tube insertion(collapsed airway.), and such.


Holy shit. I'd never guessed that the US scouts taught such things. Impressive.
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Postby Greed and Death » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:51 pm

Risottia wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Risottia wrote:
greed and death wrote:
Risottia wrote:
greed and death wrote:I was certified in first aid through the boy scouts when I was 8.


I'm afraid that the OPer is looking for an higher degree of certification.

No it was about as high of a certification as you can get without getting an emergency medical Tech certification.

Weird. Nothing between a boy-scout grade and professional certification? Huge gap, I'd guess.

There is the AED {Automated external defibrillator}certification. But the AED didn't exist when I was in the scouts.
Most of the adults today just learn CPR. in the scouts I learned CPR, how to splint broken bones and how to make a tourniquet.
the only time I learned more first aid wise was in the combat lifer saver program in the army. and that was stuff like boarder line professional stuff like giving IV's, J tube insertion(collapsed airway.), and such.


Holy shit. I'd never guessed that the US scouts taught such things. Impressive.


Well if your out in the woods and the scout leader(adult) breaks his leg, you have to know how to get him back to civilization. So I think that sort of training is needed in the scouts.
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Postby Iniika » Mon Jan 11, 2010 4:54 pm

Warkus wrote:
Kobrania wrote:The reason for lack of restrictions in the past was mainly because parents were a lot stricter...and the fact you couldn't be sued for every mishap.

Well, yes people can sue for basically anything now. But i don't mean something like this:

Example: Grizzly Bear Hunt! Any Age Allowed!

I mean:

Example: Basic Chemistry And Biology! Ages 8 And Up!

I don't mean getting rid of all age restrictions. Some restrictions are plain stupid and need to be lowered or abolished , while others make a point and should stay.


Or maybe some age restrictions are stupid because you are too young to fully comprehend their reasoning.

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