Boo To Age Restrictions

[Warkus]

People, i am 11 years old. And today i phoned St.Johns First Aid Course Centre in Whyalla(Australia) Guess what? You have to be 15 , which is a punch in the pants since i really interested in doing a first aid course. And personally someone who is 11 isn't a guaranteed intellcually insuperior to someone who is age 15. When i asked the reason for the restriction they claimed "Children under 15 should not be in control of someones life in a dangerous situation as they may not remember what to do or fall under the pressure" Pressure? Memory? Oh please i'm not exactly 2 here, it's not that hard to "handle the pressure" and remembering? Children have better memories than adults so i don't know what she was on about. Besides thats just my story, many children "under the right age" have been denied access to certain things, even though they are comeptant enough. Of course i understand about alcohol and ciggarettes and things like that.

But enough about me. Some age restrictions have either got to be lowered or abolished completly, it is tearing some possible important things from childrens lives. Back in the old day children hanged around their suburb with basically no restrictions to what they can do. Sure theirs some downs but theirs some ups too.

[Kobrania]

The reason for lack of restrictions in the past was mainly because parents were a lot stricter...and the fact you couldn't be sued for every mishap.

[Warkus]

The reason for lack of restrictions in the past was mainly because parents were a lot stricter...and the fact you couldn't be sued for every mishap.

Well, yes people can sue for basically anything now. But i don't mean something like this:

Example: Grizzly Bear Hunt! Any Age Allowed!

I mean:

Example: Basic Chemistry And Biology! Ages 8 And Up!

I don't mean getting rid of all age restrictions. Some restrictions are plain stupid and need to be lowered or abolished , while others make a point and should stay.

[Mean Feat]

People, i am 11 years old. And today i phoned St.Johns First Aid Course Centre in Whyalla(Australia) Guess what? You have to be 15 , which is a punch in the pants since i really interested in doing a first aid course.

St. John's isn't the only organization which can legally certify people for first aid. You might not have any choice in Wyalla, but it might be worth your while to see if some other organization will certify you at your age.

Another possibility is that you might be able to get the training without the certification. So you'd be confident of your own ability to do the right thing (at least not put the person at further risk, as incompetent 'first aid' can do) ... that should be all you're after, right? You don't need the certification for some job you're applying for, or to give you legal cover if something goes wrong. You just want to be able to save a life, amiright?

[Cennazluga]

People, i am 11 years old. And today i phoned St.Johns First Aid Course Centre in Whyalla(Australia) Guess what? You have to be 15 , which is a punch in the pants since i really interested in doing a first aid course.

St. John's isn't the only organization which can legally certify people for first aid. You might not have any choice in Wyalla, but it might be worth your while to see if some other organization will certify you at your age.

Yeah, do you have access to something like the Boy Scouts. IIRC, I was 11 when I did the First Aid merit badge course. And the next year, we completed the Emergency Preparedness badge, through which many boys became CPR certified.

[Allbeama]

Ahem. "Insuperior" is not a word. The word you want is "inferior".

[Daistallia 2104]

People, i am 11 years old. And today i phoned St.Johns First Aid Course Centre in Whyalla(Australia) Guess what? You have to be 15 , which is a punch in the pants since i really interested in doing a first aid course. And personally someone who is 11 isn't a guaranteed intellcually insuperior to someone who is age 15. When i asked the reason for the restriction they claimed "Children under 15 should not be in control of someones life in a dangerous situation as they may not remember what to do or fall under the pressure" Pressure? Memory? Oh please i'm not exactly 2 here, it's not that hard to "handle the pressure" and remembering? Children have better memories than adults so i don't know what she was on about. Besides thats just my story, many children "under the right age" have been denied access to certain things, even though they are comeptant enough. Of course i understand about alcohol and ciggarettes and things like that.

But enough about me. Some age restrictions have either got to be lowered or abolished completly, it is tearing some possible important things from childrens lives. Back in the old day children hanged around their suburb with basically no restrictions to what they can do. Sure theirs some downs but theirs some ups too.

I think maybe you should worry less about what first aid courses you can take, and concentrate on your school work. You appear to be failing English class...

[Mean Feat]

Ahem. "Insuperior" is not a word. The word you want is "inferior".

Something can be insuperable without being insuperior ? Damn our language sucks.

[Mean Feat]

People, i am 11 years old. And today i phoned St.Johns First Aid Course Centre in Whyalla(Australia) Guess what? You have to be 15 , which is a punch in the pants since i really interested in doing a first aid course.

St. John's isn't the only organization which can legally certify people for first aid. You might not have any choice in Wyalla, but it might be worth your while to see if some other organization will certify you at your age.

Yeah, do you have access to something like the Boy Scouts. IIRC, I was 11 when I did the First Aid merit badge course. And the next year, we completed the Emergency Preparedness badge, through which many boys became CPR certified.

From the Scouts website, about an upcoming event:

The first Scouts in Action Week will focus on first aid, and if you’re looking for a way to incorporate first aid into your program, it doesn’t get much easier than this!

All Sections of Scouting (Joey Scouts to Rovers), including Leaders, will be able participate in a range of first aid programs that have been developed specifically for Scouting and which align with each Section’s Award Scheme. Groups will be encouraged to link with their local St John Ambulance Division who will assist by providing training, equipment, and even helping to set up mock emergencies to make the experience as realistic as possible. Groups might even like to invite St John Ambulance members along to a combined camp that has a first aid theme.

From St John's Ambulance (qld):

Scouts in Action Week – First Aid is a concept developed by John Parr, who has 35 years of Scouting experience in Victoria and Queensland. John approached Scouts Australia earlier this year (2009) after receiving funding from the Vodafone Australia Foundation’s World of Difference Program to dedicate a year of his life teaching 50,000 young Australians first aid skills through St John Ambulance Queensland. From that, the concept of a Scouts in Action Week was created.

It looks to me like the Scouts use St John's. For the certification anyway (the tests).

[Tagmatium]

Ahem. "Insuperior" is not a word. The word you want is "inferior".

Something can be insuperable without being insuperior ? Damn our language sucks.

Probably because they come from different roots.

[Mean Feat]

From the St. John's website, conditions of participating in a Senior First Aid course:

Prerequisite
Participants must be 14 years or older. Participants under 14 years must provide written permission to attend the course from their parent or legal guardian.

(If the link doesn't work, go to it's parent page St John's Queensland and click on 'read more' under 'book a First Aid course').

The first and second sentences contradict each other. The rule could be read either way.

Therefore, it is worth calling another office (Towoomba or Gold Coast) and seeing if you get a different answer. Or call the State office.

If you really want to throw your weight around like an adult, apply in writing.

[Mean Feat]

Ahem. "Insuperior" is not a word. The word you want is "inferior".

Something can be insuperable without being insuperior ? Damn our language sucks.

Probably because they come from different roots.

Oh come on. I don't get even a little laugh for that one ?

[Quelesh]

People, i am 11 years old. And today i phoned St.Johns First Aid Course Centre in Whyalla(Australia) Guess what? You have to be 15 , which is a punch in the pants since i really interested in doing a first aid course. And personally someone who is 11 isn't a guaranteed intellcually insuperior to someone who is age 15. When i asked the reason for the restriction they claimed "Children under 15 should not be in control of someones life in a dangerous situation as they may not remember what to do or fall under the pressure" Pressure? Memory? Oh please i'm not exactly 2 here, it's not that hard to "handle the pressure" and remembering? Children have better memories than adults so i don't know what she was on about. Besides thats just my story, many children "under the right age" have been denied access to certain things, even though they are comeptant enough. Of course i understand about alcohol and ciggarettes and things like that.

But enough about me. Some age restrictions have either got to be lowered or abolished completly, it is tearing some possible important things from childrens lives. Back in the old day children hanged around their suburb with basically no restrictions to what they can do. Sure theirs some downs but theirs some ups too.

I agree with you. Most age restrictions are completely arbitrary and counterproductive.

[Kingdom Brittania]

People, i am 11 years old. And today i phoned St.Johns First Aid Course Centre in Whyalla(Australia) Guess what? You have to be 15 , which is a punch in the pants since i really interested in doing a first aid course. And personally someone who is 11 isn't a guaranteed intellcually insuperior to someone who is age 15. When i asked the reason for the restriction they claimed "Children under 15 should not be in control of someones life in a dangerous situation as they may not remember what to do or fall under the pressure" Pressure? Memory? Oh please i'm not exactly 2 here, it's not that hard to "handle the pressure" and remembering? Children have better memories than adults so i don't know what she was on about. Besides thats just my story, many children "under the right age" have been denied access to certain things, even though they are comeptant enough. Of course i understand about alcohol and ciggarettes and things like that.

But enough about me. Some age restrictions have either got to be lowered or abolished completly, it is tearing some possible important things from childrens lives. Back in the old day children hanged around their suburb with basically no restrictions to what they can do. Sure theirs some downs but theirs some ups too.

You don't need to be sad. Inquire to your local boy scout's council and be one of us.

13 years old Boy Scout

[Tagmatium]

Ahem. "Insuperior" is not a word. The word you want is "inferior".

Something can be insuperable without being insuperior ? Damn our language sucks.

Probably because they come from different roots.

Oh come on. I don't get even a little laugh for that one ?

The internet is serious business.

Plus, I didn't know you'd made one...

[The Archiepelago]

People, i am 11 years old. And today i phoned St.Johns First Aid Course Centre in Whyalla(Australia) Guess what? You have to be 15 , which is a punch in the pants since i really interested in doing a first aid course. And personally someone who is 11 isn't a guaranteed intellcually insuperior to someone who is age 15. When i asked the reason for the restriction they claimed "Children under 15 should not be in control of someones life in a dangerous situation as they may not remember what to do or fall under the pressure" Pressure? Memory? Oh please i'm not exactly 2 here, it's not that hard to "handle the pressure" and remembering? Children have better memories than adults so i don't know what she was on about. Besides thats just my story, many children "under the right age" have been denied access to certain things, even though they are comeptant enough. Of course i understand about alcohol and ciggarettes and things like that.

But enough about me. Some age restrictions have either got to be lowered or abolished completly, it is tearing some possible important things from childrens lives. Back in the old day children hanged around their suburb with basically no restrictions to what they can do. Sure theirs some downs but theirs some ups too.

Well it always use to annoy me when i was your age. I'm 19 but look younger o I still have the people who do like free samples at stores ask where my mom is.I just show them the Class Ring and it works. Haha. But good luck to you in the future.

[Lunatic Goofballs]

In Connecticut, you have to be at least 16 to operate a motor vehicle(a multi-ton conglomeration of steel and glass) on public roads with thousands of other people in any weather at any time of day or night without restriction. However, you have to be 18 to operate a deli slicer because you might cut off your thumb.

[Tokos]

In Connecticut, you have to be at least 16 to operate a motor vehicle(a multi-ton conglomeration of steel and glass) on public roads with thousands of other people in any weather at any time of day or night without restriction. However, you have to be 18 to operate a deli slicer because you might cut off your thumb.

It's probably not the same people making each law.

If it is, then they are retarded, though.

[Risottia]

I think maybe you should worry less about what first aid courses you can take, and concentrate on your school work. You appear to be failing English class...

Absolutely so.
Which, I'm afraid, would prevent the OP from learning from manuals and books about the proper procedures, or writing a proper report.

[Greed and Death]

People, i am 11 years old. And today i phoned St.Johns First Aid Course Centre in Whyalla(Australia) Guess what? You have to be 15 , which is a punch in the pants since i really interested in doing a first aid course. And personally someone who is 11 isn't a guaranteed intellcually insuperior to someone who is age 15. When i asked the reason for the restriction they claimed "Children under 15 should not be in control of someones life in a dangerous situation as they may not remember what to do or fall under the pressure" Pressure? Memory? Oh please i'm not exactly 2 here, it's not that hard to "handle the pressure" and remembering? Children have better memories than adults so i don't know what she was on about. Besides thats just my story, many children "under the right age" have been denied access to certain things, even though they are comeptant enough. Of course i understand about alcohol and ciggarettes and things like that.

But enough about me. Some age restrictions have either got to be lowered or abolished completly, it is tearing some possible important things from childrens lives. Back in the old day children hanged around their suburb with basically no restrictions to what they can do. Sure theirs some downs but theirs some ups too.

I was certified in first aid through the boy scouts when I was 8.

[Risottia]

I was certified in first aid through the boy scouts when I was 8.

I'm afraid that the OPer is looking for an higher degree of certification.

[Reimu]

I daresay someone in danger would feel a lot better with an adult applying the first aid than a child. Face it, age barriers exist for a reason.

[Greed and Death]

I was certified in first aid through the boy scouts when I was 8.

I'm afraid that the OPer is looking for an higher degree of certification.

No it was about as high of a certification as you can get without getting an emergency medical Tech certification.
And I am actually licensed to certify people now.

[Ifreann]

Pressure? Memory? Oh please i'm not exactly 2 here, it's not that hard to "handle the pressure" and remembering?

How would you know how easy it is to handle the pressure? I'm not trying to be a dick, but if you haven't experienced it then you can't know how easy it would be.

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The reason for lack of restrictions in the past was mainly because parents were a lot stricter...and the fact you couldn't be sued for every mishap.

Ignorance too. Child molesters didn't just appear in the last 10-15 years, they've been around forever. But people didn't have access to 24/7 news so they didn't hear about it until it happened locally. And then they figured it for a one in a million thing. After all, they'd never heard of it happening before. Today you'd be hard pressed to find a parent who'd happily leave their child alone with a priest they don't know personally.

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I mean:

Example: Basic Chemistry And Biology! Ages 8 And Up!

That's a suggestion, not a restriction.

In Connecticut, you have to be at least 16 to operate a motor vehicle(a multi-ton conglomeration of steel and glass) on public roads with thousands of other people in any weather at any time of day or night without restriction. However, you have to be 18 to operate a deli slicer because you might cut off your thumb.

A metal box on wheels powered by explosions is obviously far safer than a deli slicer.

[Celtica and Neotopia]

Today you'd be hard pressed to find a parent who'd happily leave their child alone with a priest they don't know personally.

That's not necessarily a good thing, of course.

But on topic, the reason given doesn't seem very sensible. You don't get put "in control of someone's life" because you know first aid. If someone near you has a heart attack, is choking, breaks a bone, etc. then you're forced into the situation. Knowing first aid tends to be a very big help in those cases.

Some age limits are for convenience. There's certainly people under 16 who could be very responsible about driving cars, but testing would be quite a massive and costly operation so its much easier to just draw the line somewhere.

In this case, this doesn't apply. As I said, the reason they gave you isn't a good one. If it's about competence, it should become fairly obvious if you're not competent to learn first aid within the first few classes, regardless of age.

Movie ratings are similar. While their intent is good, problems arise when they're no longer taken as mere advice. A lot of media is rated a classification higher than it should be in my opinion, but regardless of that it's simply terrible when parents hang to ratings as the gospel (not taking their child's actual maturity into account, merely clinging onto their statistic of days alive) or worse, when it's written into law. When it comes to ratings, Australia's a whole 'nother world anyway.