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by Meridiani Planum » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:33 am
by Fortschritte » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:35 am
Krumbia wrote:Nicos Anastasiades, doing a pretty good job through a pretty shit time in Cyprus. And who knows? The north and south might even reach a settlement under him.
Natalie Bennett, she's definitely my favourite of the big political leaders in the UK at the moment.
by The Seleucids (Ancient) » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:41 am
by Krumbia » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:35 am
Fortschritte wrote:Krumbia wrote:Nicos Anastasiades, doing a pretty good job through a pretty shit time in Cyprus. And who knows? The north and south might even reach a settlement under him.
Natalie Bennett, she's definitely my favourite of the big political leaders in the UK at the moment.
Isn't the role of President of Cyprus largely ceremonial? If so, that means that Anastasiades didn't really get Cyprus throwing the "shit times." But, correct me if I'm wrong, since my knowledge on Cypriot politics is a bit fuzzy.
by Fortschritte » Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:37 am
Krumbia wrote:Fortschritte wrote:
Isn't the role of President of Cyprus largely ceremonial? If so, that means that Anastasiades didn't really get Cyprus throwing the "shit times." But, correct me if I'm wrong, since my knowledge on Cypriot politics is a bit fuzzy.
The President of Cyprus is both the head of government and of state. His role is as ceremonial as Obama's, apart from the fact that Anastasiades actually has the support of the parliament as well as the government. To quote Wikipedia (I know), "Unique among member states of the European Union, the President of Cyprus possesses considerable power".
by Costa Fierro » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:24 pm
Calimera II wrote:Mmm. The US is the other, and maybe even bigger, reason.
It isn't that simple. Venezuela borders Colombia, and Colombia has some of the most violent cartels in the world. Some of those cartels crossed the border and settled in Venezuela. Moreover, the opposition's province (Miranda) is the most insecure of the country.(Image)
You are simplifying things waaaay to much.
And Colombia, Guatemala and lots of other countries in the northern part of South America are even more dangerous.
That's not true.
The Healthcare system was absolute crap in the 90's when only the rich had access to it.
Absolutely true. But this has more to do with Maduro than with Chavez.
This is a big lie.
Maduro saw a little bird in a chapel, while praying. And he ''felt'' the presence of Chavez. He never said that Chavez talked to him whatsoever. Here you have the original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsNTljd4DsU
Absolutely not true.
I am not here to defend Chavez.
by Estado Nacional » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:27 pm
Republic of Coldwater wrote:Estado Nacional wrote:
You're out of your mind if you think Ron Paul is a libertarian, he's a paleocon. Gary Johnson is an actual libertarian.
You mean he doesn't support free markets, legalizing marijuana, cutting back foreign interventions and ending unwarranted wiretapping?
That sounds quite Libertarian to me.
by Sentrhul Yurop » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:40 pm
by Sentrhul Yurop » Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:43 pm
Krumbia wrote:Nicos Anastasiades, doing a pretty good job through a pretty shit time in Cyprus. And who knows? The north and south might even reach a settlement under him.
The Conez Imperium wrote:Quintium wrote:
Because my head has been in the sand for too long. But I have realised now that if you keep your head in the sand and pretend that there aren't any problems, someone will come over and cut it off. Her solutions might not be perfect, but she's the only political leader in France at the moment who recognises the extent of the immigrant problem in France, and so she's the lesser evil.
Yes France does have an immigration problem but vilifying a religion is not a solution. Its a downright deplorable and abhorrent act. Yes keep her around as her opinions are different but please don't vote her into power.
by Anglo-California » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:03 pm
by Sentrhul Yurop » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:14 pm
by Mushet » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:54 pm
Estado Nacional wrote:I've been struggling to think of one, so I'll just go with whoever pisses off the left the most (that's open to interpretation).
by Ardoki » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:47 pm
Calimera II wrote:Costa Fierro wrote:
He's dead. And one of the primary reasons why Venezuela is in the crapper.
Mmm. The US is the other, and maybe even bigger, reason.Costa Fierro wrote:
Reducing poverty is one thing.
Reducing poverty from 50,0% to 31,9% is a really big thing. I think you forgot the failed 2002 Coup that was backed by the United States of America and Henrique Capriles. Thanks to that disastrous coup of the opposition millions of Venezuelans were plunged into poverty: 61,1%. I bet you are not aware of the fact that Chavez, back then, implemented pro-market reforms.Costa Fierro wrote: Crime? No. Crime increased under Chavez. Venezuela is now one of the most violent countries in the world, with Caracas one of the most violent cities.
It isn't that simple. Venezuela borders Colombia, and Colombia has some of the most violent cartels in the world. Some of those cartels crossed the border and settled in Venezuela. Moreover, the opposition's province (Miranda) is the most insecure of the country.Costa Fierro wrote:There's something seriously wrong when you country has 19,000 murders every year. It's got to the stage where the government hasn't bothered keeping track of statistics.
You are simplifying things waaaay to much. And Colombia, Guatemala and lots of other countries in the northern part of South America are even more dangerous.Costa Fierro wrote:It's got to the stage where the government hasn't bothered keeping track of statistics.
That's not true.
The Healthcare system was absolute crap in the 90's when only the rich had access to it.
Here you have some important statistics to show you how much it improved during Chavez presidency:Costa Fierro wrote:Lack of government funding,
Nope. False. Every year more money goes to healthcare:Costa Fierro wrote: chronic supply and equipment shortages and rolling blackouts will kind of do that.
Absolutely true. But this has more to do with Maduro than with Chavez.Costa Fierro wrote:But that's OK. He can continue to lead Venezuela through Nicolas Maduro, his slightly unhinged successor who sleeps beside Hugo's tomb some nights and is convinced Hugo appears as a little bird that speaks to him.
This is a big lie. Maduro saw a little bird in a chapel, while praying. And he ''felt'' the presence of Chavez. He never said that Chavez talked to him whatsoever. Here you have the original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsNTljd4DsUCosta Fierro wrote: Most of Venezuela's largest companies are state owned, including petroleum ones.
That's not true. Only the Energy, Education and Healthcare sectors are mostly state owned. In 2010 the Public Sector only represented 30% of GDP, while the private sector represented 70%. The private sector continues to be the most important in Venezuela.
Source (opposition newspaper): http://www.eluniversal.com/2010/07/19/e ... -c_1976614Costa Fierro wrote: And you know what Chavez did with all that new money? He rebuilt the military. Venezuela has hundreds of new tanks, he's outfitted the army with thousands of new assault rifles. There are new fighter jets, new surface to air missiles, new artillery pieces, new amphibious assault vehicles and new armored personnel carriers. He created an entirely new internal security force and outfitted them with firearms, equipment, armored vehicles and patrol cars. He spent billions of dollars on "upgrading" the Venezuelan military.
Absolutely not true. In 2010 Venezuela's military expenses only represented a tiny 5,14% of the total amount of South America's.
I am not here to defend Chavez. I am not Chavista and I dislike Maduro. A lot of Western Media groups however, continuously lies about the situation in Venezuela, Ecuador, Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil and Uruguay.. Simply because those nations want to be sovereign nations. Here you have an interesting article ''US funds political groups in Venezuela despite ban'': http://townhall.com/news/politics-elect ... n-n1863589
by Fortschritte » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:53 pm
by Ardoki » Tue Dec 16, 2014 7:57 pm
The Seleucids wrote:Merizoc wrote:…..Are you seriously vilifying him because he fought against a brutal, oppressive, racist regime?
Not at all, but one cannot deny he has blood on his hands.
Having blood on your hands =/= being a bad guy
On the other hand, two rights don't make up for one wrong.
Its how you look at it.
I wouldn't say he's bad, but i wouldn't say he's a hero either.
by Servinta » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:05 pm
Ardoki wrote:The Seleucids wrote:
Not at all, but one cannot deny he has blood on his hands.
Having blood on your hands =/= being a bad guy
On the other hand, two rights don't make up for one wrong.
Its how you look at it.
I wouldn't say he's bad, but i wouldn't say he's a hero either.
So you opposed Nelson Mandela fighting against a brutal, oppressive, racist, neo-nazi regime? You would have preferred he hadn't liberated South Africa?
by Ardoki » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:08 pm
by Servinta » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:11 pm
Ardoki wrote:Servinta wrote:
Technically he was a terrorist (for a short time) by our standards.
According to that logic Jews who defended themselves against the Nazis were terrorists.
In reality the apartheid government were the true terrorists. They used fear and violence to enforce their racist segregation system.
by Inquista » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:16 pm
by Servinta » Tue Dec 16, 2014 8:20 pm
Inquista wrote:Aung San Suu Kyi.
Even though I doubt the Burmese Junta will ammend their Constitution and allow her to run for President, atleast she will still hold considerable influence. It will be good to see freedom and democracy gradually brought to a country without further blood shed.
by Republic of Coldwater » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:52 pm
Estado Nacional wrote:Republic of Coldwater wrote:You mean he doesn't support free markets, legalizing marijuana, cutting back foreign interventions and ending unwarranted wiretapping?
That sounds quite Libertarian to me.
That's not what Libertarianism is, and Ron Paul doesn't really support free markets.
by Republic of Coldwater » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:55 pm
by Estado Nacional » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:15 pm
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