What if: USSR won cold war, your life.

[Great endo]

i would trudge to secondary school as the embargo on the UK meant we had no fuel to drive, i would not have any TV as electricity would be expensive. i would walk to the center of the village to find a scarce resource: food, each night. i would also have no knowledge of the outside world as books are in short supply

[Marxist-Leninist Germany]

Would the war between the USSR and China be a cold war or a hot war?

It would probobly eventually escalate.

[Fratermonia]

It depends on what the USSR is by this point, what happened to New England, and whether or not I could still buy guns.

Presuming that that the USSR reverts back to the Leninist shithole it historically was, New England becomes a puppet state, and I cannot buy guns:
Probably lined up against the wall and shot for supporting a true worker's revolution against the bureaucratic Fascists who dare call themselves followers of Marx.

If I can buy guns, I can at least cause a small fuss before getting shot. I might even kill one or two of them.

And then eventually the USSR would collapse anyways because its system was directly antithetical to its professed ideology and nothing can survive that level of doublethink after absorbing an actually educated population.

[Sebastianbourg]

i would trudge to secondary school as the embargo on the UK meant we had no fuel to drive, i would not have any TV as electricity would be expensive. i would walk to the center of the village to find a scarce resource: food, each night. i would also have no knowledge of the outside world as books are in short supply

No, you'd be in the army probably under semi-forced labour or working with me at the Self-Sufficiency Office.

[Estva]

Life would suck.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

I would be living in a true paradise.

No capitalist worries, just the breeze of socialism.

URA!

That's realistic...I'm a social democrat myself, but please. I'm not so naive as to believe that the USSR surviving will create a problem free paradise . Hell, Stalinism is just as bad as fascism in my opinion.

The official name of Comrade Stalin's ideology is Socialism in One Country, not this "Stalinism" thing that is utilised in reductio ad Stalinum to demonise the class struggle & its prominent figures.
Furthermore, is he was evil, explain the amount of support he enjoys in Novorossiya, particularly old people from his time, Ukrainians, a number of Russian priests naming him saint, an Orthodox Calendar in his honour, amongst other things, mhm?

[Marxist-Leninist Germany]

That's realistic...I'm a social democrat myself, but please. I'm not so naive as to believe that the USSR surviving will create a problem free paradise . Hell, Stalinism is just as bad as fascism in my opinion.

The official name of Comrade Stalin's ideology is Socialism in One Country, not this "Stalinism" thing that is utilised in reductio ad Stalinum to demonise the class struggle & its prominent figures.

Can you demonize something that is demonstrably a horrible system? Calling something by a different name doesn't change what it is, unless of course l, for example, you actually believe that North Korea is a democratic republic of the people and not a iron fisted dictatorship.

[Southern Hampshire]

India was not Capitalist until 1991. They had their own agenda of semi-socialism.

To answer your question I would probably get a gun and kill some communists.

As a last stand, then?

Life under communism is last stand itself.

A bastion of freedom fighters is required.

[Estva]

That's realistic...I'm a social democrat myself, but please. I'm not so naive as to believe that the USSR surviving will create a problem free paradise . Hell, Stalinism is just as bad as fascism in my opinion.

The official name of Comrade Stalin's ideology is Socialism in One Country, not this "Stalinism" thing that is utilised in reductio ad Stalinum to demonise the class struggle & its prominent figures.

Actually, Stalin completely stole that line of thought from Bukharin and then pretended he had invented it once he had the opportunity to purge Bukharin and also got rid of Trotsky.

EDIT: Had originally put Trotsky, when it was actually Bukharin.

[Kubra]

As a last stand, then?

Life under communism is last stand itself.

A bastion of freedom fighters is required.

sure, but will these freedom fighters be capitalistic? Most internal dissent in the eastern bloc was not.

[Marxist-Leninist Germany]

Life under communism is last stand itself.

A bastion of freedom fighters is required.

sure, but will these freedom fighters be capitalistic? Most internal dissent in the eastern bloc was not.

Social democrats would likely be in the group as well.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

The official name of Comrade Stalin's ideology is Socialism in One Country, not this "Stalinism" thing that is utilised in reductio ad Stalinum to demonise the class struggle & its prominent figures.

Actually, Stalin completely stole that line of thought from Trotsky and then pretended he had invented it once he had the opportunity to purge Trots and also got rid of Bukharin.

Trots was a Zionist, Stalin opposed what he called "Jewish ultra-nationalism", thus Trots' removal.

Stalin was also right in proposing an oblast in the USSR instead of Israel, as well as blatantly criticising its formation, because at the end of the day it led to a brutal Zionist entity that killed 1,5 million+ Palestinians (even a Jewish-Israeli professor, Ilan Pappé, acknowledged this fact) & helped NATO, GCC & fascist régimes elsewhere kill far more in the name of "anti-Communism, freedom & democracy". It also lead to the Zionist hand in arming terrorist groups like the FSA, whose ranks enjoy cannibalising & beheading Syrians.

You may not agree, however Stalin was right.
Edit 2: Lastly, if anything is to be concluded by observing Saudis, Zionists, FSA, ISIS, contras, or Mobutu in addition to Soeharto, or others like Pahlavi's SAVAK alone; it is more than enough to see that the anti-Communist movement is the barbarians on this world.

[Auroya]

As a last stand, then?

Life under communism is last stand itself.

A bastion of freedom fighters is required.

Debatable, really.

But in any case, if this state of affairs existed revolution may as well be impossible because the Soviets own basically everything.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Life under communism is last stand itself.

A bastion of freedom fighters is required.

Debatable, really.

But in any case, if this state of affairs existed revolution may as well be impossible because the Soviets own basically everything.

Its interesting that people always confuse personal property (your home, belongings, car, clothing, family stuff, etcetera) with private property (what Communism actually seeks to abolish, such as corporate entities)...

[Fratermonia]

demonise the class struggle & its prominent figures.
Furthermore, is he was evil, explain the amount of support he enjoys in Novorossiya, particularly old people from his time, Ukrainians, a number of Russian priests naming him saint, an Orthodox Calendar in his honour, amongst other things, mhm?

False consciousness. Same way Americans are firmly supportive of the corporations that constantly fuck them over and corrupt their government or peasants in the Russian Revolution fought on the side of the Whites.

[Estva]

Trots was a Zionist, Stalin opposed what he called "Jewish ultra-nationalism", thus Trots' removal.

Trots was a minority, and thus something Stalin could construe to be an enemy to the majority Russians. How, precisely, do you think Trots was a Zionist while simultaneously be a Communist and supporting the concept of world revolution?(Also, I was wrong, Stalin stole the idea from Bukharin, not Trots).

He supported the constant expansion of the USSR to include the whole world eventually. He was not a Zionist.

Stalin was also right in proposing an oblast in the USSR instead of Israel, as well as blatantly criticising its formation,

Stalin didn't care about the Jews and actively purged them.

because at the end of the day it led to a brutal Zionist entity that killed 1,5 million+ Palestinians

Source this from a neutral third party source, and please remove all military combatants and include only civilians.
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even a Jewish-Israeli professor, Ilan Pappé, acknowledged this fact) & helped NATO, GCC & fascist régimes elsewhere kill far more in the name of "anti-Communism, freedom & democracy".

Israel was only anti-communist because the USSR actively repressed Jews and the Jewish religion. Israel as a long history of socialist parties and communities, so they clearly are not some kind of fascist government.

You may not agree, however Stalin was right.

I suppose you agree with his execution of 14 million people.

It is also rather interesting that you completely de-railed what I said into a criticism of Israel just because I mentioned Trotsky.

[Estva]

Debatable, really.

But in any case, if this state of affairs existed revolution may as well be impossible because the Soviets own basically everything.

Its interesting that people always confuse personal property (your home, belongings, car, clothing, family stuff, etcetera) with private property (what Communism actually seeks to abolish, such as corporate entities)...

When private property is owned by the state, it is still private property.

[Bratislavskaya]

The official name of Comrade Stalin's ideology is Socialism in One Country, not this "Stalinism" thing that is utilised in reductio ad Stalinum to demonise the class struggle & its prominent figures.

Actually, Stalin completely stole that line of thought from Trotsky and then pretended he had invented it once he had the opportunity to purge Trots and also got rid of Bukharin.

No, I'm pretty sure Trotsky was about Permanent Revolution.

[Estva]

Actually, Stalin completely stole that line of thought from Trotsky and then pretended he had invented it once he had the opportunity to purge Trots and also got rid of Bukharin.

No, I'm pretty sure Trotsky was about Permanent Revolution.

I corrected myself earlier. Bukharin was who Stalin stole from.

[Nestre]

I probably wouldn't have been born, since neither my mom's family nor my dad are originally from California. But I like to think that they left and went to one of the remaining countries with a degree of capitalism. Britain is the most likely, I think.

[Marxist-Leninist Germany]

Debatable, really.

But in any case, if this state of affairs existed revolution may as well be impossible because the Soviets own basically everything.

Its interesting that people always confuse personal property (your home, belongings, car, clothing, family stuff, etcetera) with private property (what Communism actually seeks to abolish, such as corporate entities)...

So family businuesses would remain unaffected?

[Brillnuck]

As a last stand, then?

Life under communism is last stand itself.

A bastion of freedom fighters is required.

I'd most likely join the freedom fighters. The USSR wasn't really a workers paradise.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Trots was a Zionist, Stalin opposed what he called "Jewish ultra-nationalism", thus Trots' removal.

Trots was a minority, and thus something Stalin could construe to be an enemy to the majority Russians. How, precisely, do you think Trots was a Zionist while simultaneously be a Communist and supporting the concept of world revolution?(Also, I was wrong, Stalin stole the idea from Bukharin, not Trots).

He supported the constant expansion of the USSR to include the whole world eventually. He was not a Zionist.

Stalin was also right in proposing an oblast in the USSR instead of Israel, as well as blatantly criticising its formation,

Stalin didn't care about the Jews and actively purged them.

because at the end of the day it led to a brutal Zionist entity that killed 1,5 million+ Palestinians

Source this from a neutral third party source, and please remove all military combatants and include only civilians.
(

even a Jewish-Israeli professor, Ilan Pappé, acknowledged this fact) & helped NATO, GCC & fascist régimes elsewhere kill far more in the name of "anti-Communism, freedom & democracy".

Israel was only anti-communist because the USSR actively repressed Jews and the Jewish religion. Israel as a long history of socialist parties and communities, so they clearly are not some kind of fascist government.

You may not agree, however Stalin was right.

I suppose you agree with his execution of 14 million people.

It is also rather interesting that you completely de-railed what I said into a criticism of Israel just because I mentioned Trotsky.

You mentioned Trots, I explained the main ideological reason behind Stalin's opposition to him, or at least, one of the main reasons.

My source about the Palestine casualties? I just mentioned it in my post. Do you not know of Israeli professor Ilan Pappé's works?

Israel's elites were opposed to communism, because they did not want to be dethroned from their wealth over the toiling of the masses. Furthermore, it is also true, that Israel busted up their kibbutzim moreover forced them to privatise, with occasional use of force too.

USSR had no qualms with Jews, rather it had qualms with Zionism. Lenin, Stalin amongst others criticised how Zionism seeks to be another version of existing far-right forms of nationalism.

Lenin's 1905 Pamphlet to the Jews is one such critique. I have others on Stalin's as well that I will telegraph you as soon as I re-retrieve the links again (& references to books).

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Its interesting that people always confuse personal property (your home, belongings, car, clothing, family stuff, etcetera) with private property (what Communism actually seeks to abolish, such as corporate entities)...

So family businuesses would remain unaffected?

So long as they treat their workers fairly, yes.

Like Bashar & Hafez's Syria, or Muammar's Libya, traditional Arab family bazaars, soukhs etc were left alone.

[Estva]

You mentioned Trots, I explained the main ideological reason behind Stalin's opposition to him, or at least, one of the main reasons.

Stalin did not have any real ideological conflict with Trotsky, other than I believe Stalin was more of a Bukharinite than a Trostkyist.

My source about the Palestine casualties? I just mentioned it in my post. Do you not know of Israeli professor Ilan Pappé's works?

No, I don't, that's why I asked you to source it.

Israel's elites were opposed to communism, because they did not want to be dethroned from their wealth over the toiling of the masses.

One of Israel's longest ruling parties was quasi-socialist.

Furthermore, it is also true, that Israel busted up their kibbutzim moreover forced them to privatise, with occasional use of force too.

For some of them, I'm sure that probably happened, but that was also most likely because they had quite a few paramilitaries. These kibbutzim also still exist.

USSR had no qualms with Jews, rather it had qualms with Zionism. Lenin, Stalin amongst others criticized how Zionism seeks to be another version of existing far-right forms of nationalism.

When Stalin took power, the NKVD was about 30% Jewish. When he was finished with it, it had less than 7% of its workers be of Jewish heritage. Jews, like all non-Russians and non-Georgians under Stalin, were presecuted on the basis of their ethnicity.

Lenin's 1905 Pamphlet to the Jews is one such critique. I have others on Stalin's as well that I will telegraph you as soon as I re-retrieve the links again (& references to books).

Go ahead. Because Trotsky was never a Zionist.