No Indictment for Eric Garner's Killer

[The United States of North Amerigo]

Offenses:
Resisting Arrest

Nope. He was never aggressive. The crime is very minor.

Shoving an Officer

Selling cigars illegally.

A minor crime.

Personally I thought this was justified, the officers were restraining him. Remember he's a big dude! He died in the process of officer's restraining him I don't think the officers meant to kill him.
By the way that's a headlock, not a chokehold.

What the fuck are you talking about? You're defending homicide.

He was resisting arrest, and he was being aggressive. You follow the officer's orders, it's in the constitution. That guy needs to learn how to respect authority, if he just listened then they could've gone to the station, talked about it, and he could've gotten out, and if he wanted to... sue the NYPD.

[Cetacea]

Nope. He was never aggressive. The crime is very minor.


A minor crime.

What the fuck are you talking about? You're defending homicide.

He was resisting arrest, and he was being aggressive. You follow the officer's orders, it's in the constitution. That guy needs to learn how to respect authority, if he just listened then they could've gone to the station, talked about it, and he could've gotten out, and if he wanted to... sue the NYPD.

he's not learning much of anything now

[The United States of North Amerigo]

He was resisting arrest, and he was being aggressive. You follow the officer's orders, it's in the constitution. That guy needs to learn how to respect authority, if he just listened then they could've gone to the station, talked about it, and he could've gotten out, and if he wanted to... sue the NYPD.

he's not learning much of anything now

Needed* Better?

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Nope. He was never aggressive. The crime is very minor.


A minor crime.

What the fuck are you talking about? You're defending homicide.

He was resisting arrest, and he was being aggressive. You follow the officer's orders, it's in the constitution. That guy needs to learn how to respect authority, if he just listened then they could've gone to the station, talked about it, and he could've gotten out, and if he wanted to... sue the NYPD.

So, if you fail one of the constitutional rights, you immediatly lose all others? Protection against police brutality, unlawful violence? The right to life? Those are not rights you lose when you fight an arrest. Police violence should be proportional, always. Choking him because he reisted arrest is not proportional.

[Geilinor]

He was resisting arrest, and he was being aggressive. You follow the officer's orders, it's in the constitution. That guy needs to learn how to respect authority, if he just listened then they could've gone to the station, talked about it, and he could've gotten out, and if he wanted to... sue the NYPD.

So, if you fail one of the constitutional rights, you immediatly lose all others? Protection against police brutality, unlawful violence? The right to life? Those are not rights you lose when you fight an arrest. Police violence should be proportional, always. Choking him because he reisted arrest is not proportional.

How else could he have been brought down? He was 350 pounds and six feet five inches tall.

[The United States of North Amerigo]

He was resisting arrest, and he was being aggressive. You follow the officer's orders, it's in the constitution. That guy needs to learn how to respect authority, if he just listened then they could've gone to the station, talked about it, and he could've gotten out, and if he wanted to... sue the NYPD.

So, if you fail one of the constitutional rights, you immediatly lose all others? Protection against police brutality, unlawful violence? The right to life? Those are not rights you lose when you fight an arrest. Police violence should be proportional, always. Choking him because he reisted arrest is not proportional.

Headlock* Also, if he cooperated none of this would've happened. No you don't lose all your rights, but he could have just been detained for a very short time and come back out without being jailed.

[Scomagia]

Unintentionally killing someone is still a crime. Or, at least, it's a crime for everyone but the police.

There is a much higher bar with the police because of the nature of the job. I wouldn't be surprised if the family will win the wrongful death suit. But even so, it doesn't make the cop guilty of murder.

No, but he ought to have been indicted for Manslaughter. This bullshit of the police killing people and then getting away with it because "it was an accident" is infuriating. Thankfully, people are taking a stand over it.

[Scomagia]

So, if you fail one of the constitutional rights, you immediatly lose all others? Protection against police brutality, unlawful violence? The right to life? Those are not rights you lose when you fight an arrest. Police violence should be proportional, always. Choking him because he reisted arrest is not proportional.

How else could he have been brought down? He was 350 pounds and six feet five inches tall.

TASER.

[The United States of North Amerigo]

How else could he have been brought down? He was 350 pounds and six feet five inches tall.

TASER.

HE would have died, the guy was obese!

[Cetacea]

So, if you fail one of the constitutional rights, you immediatly lose all others? Protection against police brutality, unlawful violence? The right to life? Those are not rights you lose when you fight an arrest. Police violence should be proportional, always. Choking him because he reisted arrest is not proportional.

How else could he have been brought down? He was 350 pounds and six feet five inches tall.

maybe tripping or grabbing a leg could have worked? - a hip toss?, restraining his arms from behind?

the guy was 350 pounds and apparently not a trained wrestler. There was more than one police officer

besides which he died after he was on thr ground and there was no further need to 'bring him down'

[Occupied Deutschland]

So, if you fail one of the constitutional rights, you immediatly lose all others? Protection against police brutality, unlawful violence? The right to life? Those are not rights you lose when you fight an arrest. Police violence should be proportional, always. Choking him because he reisted arrest is not proportional.

Headlock* ...

Considering the cause of his death was compression of the neck from Pantaleo’s chokehold and “the compression of [Garner’s] chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police..." I'd say 'choking' is an entirely accurate statement.

[The United States of North Amerigo]

How else could he have been brought down? He was 350 pounds and six feet five inches tall.

maybe tripping or grabbing a leg could have worked? - a hip toss?, restraining his arms from behind?

the guy was 350 pounds and apparently not a trained wrestler. There was more than one police officer

besides which he died after he was on the* ground and there was no further need to 'bring him down'

Have you ever tried to trip a fat person?

[Geilinor]

How else could he have been brought down? He was 350 pounds and six feet five inches tall.

TASER.

He had heart problems which contributed to his death and that is not a good mix, so he still would likely have died.

[Sibirsky]

Nope. He was never aggressive. The crime is very minor.


A minor crime.

What the fuck are you talking about? You're defending homicide.

He was resisting arrest, and he was being aggressive. You follow the officer's orders, it's in the constitution. That guy needs to learn how to respect authority, if he just listened then they could've gone to the station, talked about it, and he could've gotten out, and if he wanted to... sue the NYPD.

He was not resisting and was not aggressive.

Fuck authority. Authority killed a man over $5.95 in taxes.

And you are defending this idiocy.

[The United States of North Amerigo]

Headlock* ...

Considering the cause of his death was compression of the neck from Pantaleo’s chokehold and “the compression of [Garner’s] chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police..." I'd say 'choking' is an entirely accurate statement.

He had Asthma... People with asthma are hospitalized for temperature changes to quickly

[The United States of North Amerigo]

He was resisting arrest, and he was being aggressive. You follow the officer's orders, it's in the constitution. That guy needs to learn how to respect authority, if he just listened then they could've gone to the station, talked about it, and he could've gotten out, and if he wanted to... sue the NYPD.

He was not resisting and was not aggressive.

Fuck authority. Authority killed a man over $5.95 in taxes.

And you are defending this idiocy.

"Not resisting and being aggressive" Hah, he shoved the officer... I watched the film paying attention especially to Eric and his actions.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Considering the cause of his death was compression of the neck from Pantaleo’s chokehold and “the compression of [Garner’s] chest and prone positioning during physical restraint by police..." I'd say 'choking' is an entirely accurate statement.

He had Asthma... People with asthma are hospitalized for temperature changes to quickly

Yet his cause of death wasn't temperature changes, was it?

[Scomagia]

TASER.

He had heart problems which contributed to his death and that is not a good mix, so he still would likely have died.

Source for "likely"? Besides, a TASER is unlikely to result in death for most people. Since the police couldn't have known at the time that he had a heart condition, a TASER induced death would have been more understandable. What the police did instead, though, could easily kill a perfectly healthy person. There's a reason TASERs have been introduced, you know.

[Cetacea]

maybe tripping or grabbing a leg could have worked? - a hip toss?, restraining his arms from behind?

the guy was 350 pounds and apparently not a trained wrestler. There was more than one police officer

besides which he died after he was on the* ground and there was no further need to 'bring him down'

Have you ever tried to trip a fat person?

yes I have:) its actually not that hard, a kick to the back of the knee or a tackle about the ankles (not always the best option) - I'm hoping Police are taught those kind of things.

[Sibirsky]

He was not resisting and was not aggressive.

Fuck authority. Authority killed a man over $5.95 in taxes.

And you are defending this idiocy.

"Not resisting and being aggressive" Hah, he shoved the officer... I watched the film paying attention especially to Eric and his actions.

I watched the video. He did not lay a hand on anyone.

[The United States of North Amerigo]

Have you ever tried to trip a fat person?

yes I have:) its actually not that hard, a kick to the back of the knee or a tackle about the ankles (not always the best option) - I'm hoping Police are taught those kind of things.

Police are not taught hand to hand combat.

[The United States of North Amerigo]

He had heart problems which contributed to his death and that is not a good mix, so he still would likely have died.

Source for "likely"? Besides, a TASER is unlikely to result in death for most people. Since the police couldn't have known at the time that he had a heart condition, a TASER induced death would have been more understandable. What the police did instead, though, could easily kill a perfectly healthy person. There's a reason TASERs have been introduced, you know.

Tazers are still lethal instruments, just less lethal. If you have heart problems and you are tazed then you die, you just die. No it would not have been more understandable as people have been accusing the officer of murdering the guy because he used a tazer on a fat person.

[Scomagia]

yes I have:) its actually not that hard, a kick to the back of the knee or a tackle about the ankles (not always the best option) - I'm hoping Police are taught those kind of things.

Police are not taught hand to hand combat.

They are taught basic hand to hand combat.

[The United States of North Amerigo]

"Not resisting and being aggressive" Hah, he shoved the officer... I watched the film paying attention especially to Eric and his actions.

I watched the video. He did not lay a hand on anyone.

Oh, it just looked like it... Regardless he should have listened to the cop.

[The United States of North Amerigo]

Police are not taught hand to hand combat.

They are taught basic hand to hand combat.

You live in CANADA!