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Postby Manisdog » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:01 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Manisdog wrote:
It's not good, think of the children who can view it with great ease


Who cares? If a parent has filters and controls, going to be pretty hard for an eleven or twelve year old to search for naughty images. A fourteen or fifteen year old is going to find a way around it whatever you do, I know from firsthand experience, but in a year or two, these "kids" will be able to legally have sex, so it hardly matters.


and thus it could possibly cause wide varieties of problems like teenage pregnancy etc
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:01 am

Manisdog wrote:
Indira wrote:
'Moral menace' Basically getting in the way of you telling other people that they should be as backwards as yourself.


No it could lead to sexual perversion and deviancy, it also is not a good thing even some feminists agree on it, it projects unhealthy mental image


Is this where you come out as openly bigotted against sexual practices involving consented adults?
No better than a homophobe?
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:01 am

Manisdog wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Who cares? If a parent has filters and controls, going to be pretty hard for an eleven or twelve year old to search for naughty images. A fourteen or fifteen year old is going to find a way around it whatever you do, I know from firsthand experience, but in a year or two, these "kids" will be able to legally have sex, so it hardly matters.


and thus cause wide varieties of problems like teenage pregnancy etc


Yes.
It's from watching people have sex that pregnancy happens.

Tell me, i'm betting you're also against sex ed, right?
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Postby Brillnuck » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:01 am

Seaxeland wrote:
Brillnuck wrote:Agreed.

Also, speaking of Porn, what do you think of The Great Porn Experiment?


The what?

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Indeed. In fact we should stop it at the source and make sex illegal. I see no potential for negative repercussions.


That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Without sex we can't reproduce, why do you want humanity to die out?

Indira wrote:
Just because you dislike something is no reason to ban it


It's not because I dislike it, it's because it's disgusting and immoral.

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Hahahahaha, oh wait, you're serious.

That's just sad.


You defend pornography? Now that is what's really sad here.


First, it's an experiment done by TED.
Second, Porn affects the brain.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:02 am

Seaxeland wrote:
Brillnuck wrote:Agreed.

Also, speaking of Porn, what do you think of The Great Porn Experiment?


The what?

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Indeed. In fact we should stop it at the source and make sex illegal. I see no potential for negative repercussions.


That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Without sex we can't reproduce, why do you want humanity to die out?

Indira wrote:
Just because you dislike something is no reason to ban it


It's not because I dislike it, it's because it's disgusting and immoral.

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Hahahahaha, oh wait, you're serious.

That's just sad.


You defend pornography? Now that is what's really sad here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSF82AwSDiU- the great porn experiment.
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Postby Indira » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:02 am

Manisdog wrote:
Indira wrote:
'Moral menace' Basically getting in the way of you telling other people that they should be as backwards as yourself.


No it could lead to sexual perversion and deviancy, it also is not a good thing even some feminists agree on it, it projects unhealthy mental image


'Sexual perversion and deviancy' Basically your right to police what other people do in the privacy of their own homes that doesn't actually HARM anyone.

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Postby Manisdog » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:02 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
Manisdog wrote:
and thus cause wide varieties of problems like teenage pregnancy etc


Yes.
It's from watching people have sex that pregnancy happens.

Tell me, i'm betting you're also against sex ed, right?


No sex ed comes under biology, nope I am not against it but it should be done in a modest way

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:03 am

Brillnuck wrote:
Seaxeland wrote:
The what?



That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Without sex we can't reproduce, why do you want humanity to die out?



It's not because I dislike it, it's because it's disgusting and immoral.



You defend pornography? Now that is what's really sad here.


First, it's an experiment done by TED.
Second, Porn affects the brain.


No shit?
So what.
It's not really up to you to regulate consenting adults sexual practices.
I bet if you have lots and lots of gay sex that affects the brain too.
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Postby The balkens » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:03 am

Why?

I thought British values were a little something more then banning porn?

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:03 am

Indira wrote:You know, this would make sense if the rules actually protected against something. (Like rape porn/child abuse/potentially fatal and fatal porn like snuff etc) But they don't seem to make any sense whatsoever.

Mostly because are already illegal and have been for decades.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:03 am

Manisdog wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Yes.
It's from watching people have sex that pregnancy happens.

Tell me, i'm betting you're also against sex ed, right?


No sex ed comes under biology, nope I am not against it but it should be done in a modest way

How do you define "modest"?
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Postby Brillnuck » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:03 am

Manisdog wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Yes.
It's from watching people have sex that pregnancy happens.

Tell me, i'm betting you're also against sex ed, right?


No sex ed comes under biology, nope I am not against it but it should be done in a modest way

People should be able to have sex for enjoyment.
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Postby Laerod » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:04 am

Manisdog wrote:
Brillnuck wrote:Porn isn't sex.

Porn is just a film genre you can say. It isn't sex.


It's not good, think of the children who can view it with great ease

There aren't any. If they can see it, they'll do it online and avoid whatever filters are already in place. If it's storebought, they're not allowed in, much less allowed to buy anything.

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Postby Indira » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:04 am

Manisdog wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Who cares? If a parent has filters and controls, going to be pretty hard for an eleven or twelve year old to search for naughty images. A fourteen or fifteen year old is going to find a way around it whatever you do, I know from firsthand experience, but in a year or two, these "kids" will be able to legally have sex, so it hardly matters.


and thus it could possibly cause wide varieties of problems like teenage pregnancy etc


Teenage pregnancy is caused by teenagers practising unsafe sex. And that comes from not porn but bad sex education and poor education in how to say no. The first is an educational issue, the second is a parenting one. Again, basic parenting failure

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Postby Manisdog » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:04 am

Ok I am finding this really creepy so i am going to eject, this is like the best the British government has done and there is an outcry here,
I am not able to understand how are you supporting porn

goodbye
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:05 am

Manisdog wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Who cares? If a parent has filters and controls, going to be pretty hard for an eleven or twelve year old to search for naughty images. A fourteen or fifteen year old is going to find a way around it whatever you do, I know from firsthand experience, but in a year or two, these "kids" will be able to legally have sex, so it hardly matters.


and thus it could possibly cause wide varieties of problems like teenage pregnancy etc


Funny thing is, viewing porn probably decreased the likelihood of me doing stupid stuff like that growing up. It provided an outlet. Teen pregnancy has actually been going down anyways.

You're just making shit up.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:05 am

Manisdog wrote:Ok I am finding this really creepy so i am going to eject, this is like the best the British government has done and there is an outcry here,
I am not able to understand how are you supporting porn

goodbye


You're trying to force your way into peoples sex lives without their consent, and WE'RE the creeps.

Ok.
Whatever.
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Postby Brillnuck » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:05 am

Indira wrote:
Manisdog wrote:
and thus it could possibly cause wide varieties of problems like teenage pregnancy etc


Teenage pregnancy is caused by teenagers practising unsafe sex. And that comes from not porn but bad sex education and poor education in how to say no. The first is an educational issue, the second is a parenting one. Again, basic parenting failure

Exactly. People shouldn't have kids if they cannot look after them. It's a parenting and educational problem. Sex has its good side you know.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:06 am

Manisdog wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
Yes.
It's from watching people have sex that pregnancy happens.

Tell me, i'm betting you're also against sex ed, right?


No sex ed comes under biology, nope I am not against it but it should be done in a modest way

"Modest" sex ed, read America's, leads to astonishingly high rates of teen pregnancy, while more "open" classes, such as those taught in Europe, lead to lower rates of teen pregnancy. British teen pregnancy rates are largely attributed to insufficient sex ed content and delivery, and other cultural problems such as underage drinking and substance abuse.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:06 am

Manisdog wrote:Ok I am finding this really creepy so i am going to eject, this is like the best the British government has done and there is an outcry here,
I am not able to understand how are you supporting porn

goodbye


Are you by any chance related to Mushrooms?

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Postby The balkens » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:06 am

Manisdog wrote:Ok I am finding this really creepy so i am going to eject, this is like the best the British government has done and there is an outcry here,
I am not able to understand how are you supporting porn

goodbye


Maybe because people *Shock* Like looking at fuck.

any kind of of fuck.

*Gasp*

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:06 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Manisdog wrote:Ok I am finding this really creepy so i am going to eject, this is like the best the British government has done and there is an outcry here,
I am not able to understand how are you supporting porn

goodbye


Are you by any chance related to Mushrooms?

No, he's just an Anglophobe.
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Postby The balkens » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:07 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Are you by any chance related to Mushrooms?

No, he's just an Anglophobe.


quite.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:08 am

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The Grey Wolf wrote:
Are you by any chance related to Mushrooms?

No, he's just an Anglophobe.


Which is pretty fucking hysterical, because he's projecting anglican prudishness to get back at the anglicans for infecting his culture... against anglicans who have pretty much moved on from that shit.

He's over here, waving a bible at us for being nude in "public" and telling us we're heathen barbarians.
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Postby Skinia » Tue Dec 02, 2014 7:08 am

Well isn't this just stupid, needlessly resource-consuming and infringing on the privacy of consenting adults. What's got Britain's knickers in a twist?
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