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Postby Creepoc Infinite » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:37 am

Transyl wrote:
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I don't think you understand some of the stuff you're talking about. Atheism needs no proof because it makes no claims, it's simply the rejection of theistic claims and beliefs. There are some Atheists who say things such as they know a god doesn't exist, but they don't given they can't prove it and it's as much a nonsensical statement as someone saying they know a god exists. Also, we know how the world was created and how life came to be, same with how the universe came to be.

Anyways, what exactly is the point of this thread OP?

Look, I don't understand the point in this thread either. Only thing thats really happening is pointless arguments about what the 'better' one is, Christianity or Atheism. Personally I don't care about Atheism or Christianity, I have my own religion just like everyone else does. The one who created this thread just likes to bitch about how much they hate Christianity and love Atheism, which in my point of view it sounds like he's a child looking for attention and something to do. Its pretty childish to argue about stuff you know nothing about. The creator of this thread has argued with me before, he was dissing on Atheism which now he is backing up? He makes no goddamn sense, before you start an argument, make sure you *know what your talking about, know what side you're on, and especially in religion discussions, don't go dissing on other peoples religions just because you don't like them.

I dissed atheism?
When the hell have I done that? Not that there's nothing about atheism to dis, but I don't remember talking about how stupid atheism is.
To me it's simple, not one religion is right, so someone's gonna be disappointed, they way I see it, it's more likely every one is gonna be disappointed. That being said, this world is too shitty to be some creation of god anyway.
I've never taken anything religious books had to say seriously. I've seen right through it since day one.
I'll admit, I've been able to fool myself otherwise before, but I get more pissed off and blindingly mad the more I think about ow deluded religious people are.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:38 am

Benuty wrote:I think this thread fills my monthly quota of straw.

That is for damn sure.


Meh, it's a petty discussion anyway.

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Postby Immoren » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:38 am

Benuty wrote:I think this thread fills my monthly quota of straw.

That is for damn sure.


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Postby Zottistan » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:38 am

Vazdaria wrote:Well Christians on Twitter seem to be happier than Atheists on Twitter (http://www.psmag.com/blogs/news-blog/on ... sts-60745/) and may by chance be healthier (http://www.minnpost.com/second-opinion/ ... r-atheists)

Perhaps this is why I've never met a nice atheist person. :unsure:

You can't have met very many, so.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:42 am

Creepoc Infinite wrote:
Transyl wrote:Look, I don't understand the point in this thread either. Only thing thats really happening is pointless arguments about what the 'better' one is, Christianity or Atheism. Personally I don't care about Atheism or Christianity, I have my own religion just like everyone else does. The one who created this thread just likes to bitch about how much they hate Christianity and love Atheism, which in my point of view it sounds like he's a child looking for attention and something to do. Its pretty childish to argue about stuff you know nothing about. The creator of this thread has argued with me before, he was dissing on Atheism which now he is backing up? He makes no goddamn sense, before you start an argument, make sure you *know what your talking about, know what side you're on, and especially in religion discussions, don't go dissing on other peoples religions just because you don't like them.

I dissed atheism?
When the hell have I done that? Not that there's nothing about atheism to dis, but I don't remember talking about how stupid atheism is.
To me it's simple, not one religion is right, so someone's gonna be disappointed, they way I see it, it's more likely every one is gonna be disappointed. That being said, this world is too shitty to be some creation of god anyway.
I've never taken anything religious books had to say seriously. I've seen right through it since day one.
I'll admit, I've been able to fool myself otherwise before, but I get more pissed off and blindingly mad the more I think about ow deluded religious people are.




See, you really don't want to be converted.

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Postby Transyl » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:43 am

Creepoc Infinite wrote:
Transyl wrote:Look, I don't understand the point in this thread either. Only thing thats really happening is pointless arguments about what the 'better' one is, Christianity or Atheism. Personally I don't care about Atheism or Christianity, I have my own religion just like everyone else does. The one who created this thread just likes to bitch about how much they hate Christianity and love Atheism, which in my point of view it sounds like he's a child looking for attention and something to do. Its pretty childish to argue about stuff you know nothing about. The creator of this thread has argued with me before, he was dissing on Atheism which now he is backing up? He makes no goddamn sense, before you start an argument, make sure you *know what your talking about, know what side you're on, and especially in religion discussions, don't go dissing on other peoples religions just because you don't like them.

I dissed atheism?
When the hell have I done that? Not that there's nothing about atheism to dis, but I don't remember talking about how stupid atheism is.
To me it's simple, not one religion is right, so someone's gonna be disappointed, they way I see it, it's more likely every one is gonna be disappointed. That being said, this world is too shitty to be some creation of god anyway.
I've never taken anything religious books had to say seriously. I've seen right through it since day one.
I'll admit, I've been able to fool myself otherwise before, but I get more pissed off and blindingly mad the more I think about ow deluded religious people are.

How are religious people deluded? And how in the fuck can you say that no religion is right, it seems your argument to me is pretty pathetic. Think the way you want though, can't stop you from that, but one things for sure you need to get your fucking facts right. You also need to stop hating on Christianity and realize that you can't just hate on certain religions just because you don't agree with them. I can tell that you know nothing about what your talking about, and you made this thread just to argue about and try to make your 'point'. But all your doing is making yourself look like a hater and an idiot who obviously needs to learn something for once.
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Postby Creepoc Infinite » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:51 am

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Creepoc Infinite wrote:I dissed atheism?
When the hell have I done that? Not that there's nothing about atheism to dis, but I don't remember talking about how stupid atheism is.
To me it's simple, not one religion is right, so someone's gonna be disappointed, they way I see it, it's more likely every one is gonna be disappointed. That being said, this world is too shitty to be some creation of god anyway.
I've never taken anything religious books had to say seriously. I've seen right through it since day one.
I'll admit, I've been able to fool myself otherwise before, but I get more pissed off and blindingly mad the more I think about ow deluded religious people are.




See, you really don't want to be converted.

Yes I can.
It's harder to put my thoughts into words than you think. Especially when i'm not thinking clearly.
I can be converted, there is a possibility that I can change my mind about religion, I actively resist it sometimes.
But I want to be converted based mostly on my need to have more to my character than there already is. And I want to be right on every view I have, so if I'm wrong about atheism, then by all means, fuck atheism let me find something that is objectively true.
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Postby Vazdaria » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:53 am

Perhaps Theists (Specifically Christians) are also more generous (http://atheism-analyzed.blogspot.com/20 ... iving.html) than Atheists. :unsure:
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Postby Creepoc Infinite » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:53 am

Transyl wrote:
Creepoc Infinite wrote:I dissed atheism?
When the hell have I done that? Not that there's nothing about atheism to dis, but I don't remember talking about how stupid atheism is.
To me it's simple, not one religion is right, so someone's gonna be disappointed, they way I see it, it's more likely every one is gonna be disappointed. That being said, this world is too shitty to be some creation of god anyway.
I've never taken anything religious books had to say seriously. I've seen right through it since day one.
I'll admit, I've been able to fool myself otherwise before, but I get more pissed off and blindingly mad the more I think about ow deluded religious people are.

How are religious people deluded? And how in the fuck can you say that no religion is right, it seems your argument to me is pretty pathetic. Think the way you want though, can't stop you from that, but one things for sure you need to get your fucking facts right. You also need to stop hating on Christianity and realize that you can't just hate on certain religions just because you don't agree with them. I can tell that you know nothing about what your talking about, and you made this thread just to argue about and try to make your 'point'. But all your doing is making yourself look like a hater and an idiot who obviously needs to learn something for once.

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Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I said deluded because that is the word that best describes what frustrates me about religion.
It doesn't make logical sense. And if people think it does, the frustrates the hell out of me
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Vashtanaraada wrote:Apatheism!

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Postby Transyl » Wed Dec 03, 2014 10:58 am

Creepoc Infinite wrote:
Transyl wrote:How are religious people deluded? And how in the fuck can you say that no religion is right, it seems your argument to me is pretty pathetic. Think the way you want though, can't stop you from that, but one things for sure you need to get your fucking facts right. You also need to stop hating on Christianity and realize that you can't just hate on certain religions just because you don't agree with them. I can tell that you know nothing about what your talking about, and you made this thread just to argue about and try to make your 'point'. But all your doing is making yourself look like a hater and an idiot who obviously needs to learn something for once.

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I said deluded because that is the word that best describes what frustrates me about religion.
It doesn't make logical sense. And if people think it does, the frustrates the hell out of me

So what your saying is you think every religion makes no sense right, only because it frustrates you? Oh that makes it all different..not. Thats not a good reasoning to go against all religions And if you really don't have any other reasons why religion does not make any sense to you, then you really don't need to be arguing about it. And I can tell you're really getting pissed off, just remember you're the one who created this discussion, and the one who is choosing to argue. If you can't take the heat, then get the fuck out of the kitchen dude. Don't start something you can't finish.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:00 am

Creepoc Infinite wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:


See, you really don't want to be converted.

Yes I can.
It's harder to put my thoughts into words than you think. Especially when i'm not thinking clearly.
I can be converted, there is a possibility that I can change my mind about religion, I actively resist it sometimes.
But I want to be converted based mostly on my need to have more to my character than there already is. And I want to be right on every view I have, so if I'm wrong about atheism, then by all means, fuck atheism let me find something that is objectively true.


Problem is as long as your worshiping at the altar of Dawkins, there is literally nothing that can convince you.

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Postby Zottistan » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:01 am

Transyl wrote:
Creepoc Infinite wrote: :eyebrow:
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I said deluded because that is the word that best describes what frustrates me about religion.
It doesn't make logical sense. And if people think it does, the frustrates the hell out of me

So what your saying is you think every religion makes no sense right, only because it frustrates you? Oh that makes it all different..not. Thats not a good reasoning to go against all religions And if you really don't have any other reasons why religion does not make any sense to you, then you really don't need to be arguing about it. And I can tell you're really getting pissed off, just remember you're the one who created this discussion, and the one who is choosing to argue. If you can't take the heat, then get the fuck out of the kitchen dude. Don't start something you can't finish.

That isn't what they said. They said it didn't make sense, and it frustrated them when people think it does make sense.
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Postby Aequusia » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:03 am

I'm a Deist, and I'm fine with both Christians and Atheists. Though, I do believe the Antitheists are just as radical as some of the religious nutjobs they oppose.

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Postby Creepoc Infinite » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:04 am

Transyl wrote:
Creepoc Infinite wrote: :eyebrow:
Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I said deluded because that is the word that best describes what frustrates me about religion.
It doesn't make logical sense. And if people think it does, the frustrates the hell out of me

So what your saying is you think every religion makes no sense right, only because it frustrates you? Oh that makes it all different..not. Thats not a good reasoning to go against all religions And if you really don't have any other reasons why religion does not make any sense to you, then you really don't need to be arguing about it. And I can tell you're really getting pissed off, just remember you're the one who created this discussion, and the one who is choosing to argue. If you can't take the heat, then get the fuck out of the kitchen dude. Don't start something you can't finish.

You know fucking well that that's not an argument I make for religions not being true.
Religions don't make any logical sense to me, so when people claim it does, that frustrates me.
It's ONE OF the reasons I have little patience for religious arguments.

And I'm only pissed off right now because if an unrelated discussion I was having with my teacher about why I'm not doing their class work (nothing to do with this site)
And that other guy claiming I know nothing about religion and know nothing about the details, and me being narcisistic or whatever.

Sorry but every damn time someone calls me full of myself, arrogant or narcisistic, it is so damn annoying because of how many times people say that about me when it's not true.
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Postby Transyl » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:06 am

I'm a Wiccan, and I am neutral towards other religions. But one things I cannot stand is when Atheists, and certain religions try to say that they're better or that they have the 'correct' beliefs. Whenever I see people like that, I immediately get pissed off because there is no 'correct' religion or belief and such.
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Atheism is preferable to Christianity as it allows us to use reason and science to learn about our world, rather than novels such as the bible.
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Postby Creepoc Infinite » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:07 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Creepoc Infinite wrote:Yes I can.
It's harder to put my thoughts into words than you think. Especially when i'm not thinking clearly.
I can be converted, there is a possibility that I can change my mind about religion, I actively resist it sometimes.
But I want to be converted based mostly on my need to have more to my character than there already is. And I want to be right on every view I have, so if I'm wrong about atheism, then by all means, fuck atheism let me find something that is objectively true.


Problem is as long as your worshiping at the altar of Dawkins, there is literally nothing that can convince you.

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuhhh FACEmotherfuckingPALM
I worship Dawkins?
Not really dude. I simply agree with him on many things. I still acknowledge he's a mysoginist along with any other flaws he may have.
Same goes for other atheists, and philosophers.

I've been told it worship Friedrich Nietzche by a former Christian friend of mine. You saying I worship Dawkins is just as laughably insulting and ridiculous.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:08 am

Creepoc Infinite wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Problem is as long as your worshiping at the altar of Dawkins, there is literally nothing that can convince you.

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuhhh FACEmotherfuckingPALM
I worship Dawkins?
Not really dude. I simply agree with him on many things. I still acknowledge he's a mysoginist along with any other flaws he may have.
Same goes for other atheists, and philosophers.

I've been told it worship Friedrich Nietzche by a former Christian friend of mine. You saying I worship Dawkins is just as laughably insulting and ridiculous.


It's a figure of speech dude.

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Postby Creepoc Infinite » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:09 am

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Creepoc Infinite wrote:Uuuuuuuuuuuuuhhh FACEmotherfuckingPALM
I worship Dawkins?
Not really dude. I simply agree with him on many things. I still acknowledge he's a mysoginist along with any other flaws he may have.
Same goes for other atheists, and philosophers.

I've been told it worship Friedrich Nietzche by a former Christian friend of mine. You saying I worship Dawkins is just as laughably insulting and ridiculous.


It's a figure of speech dude.

Yeah I know, I realized that as I posted the... Post.
But I don't know what you were saying exactly either
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:10 am

Transyl wrote:I'm a Wicca, and I am neutral towards other religions. But one things I cannot stand is when Atheists, and certain religions try to say that they're better or that they have the 'correct' beliefs. Whenever I see people like that, I immediately get pissed off because there is no 'correct' religion or belief and such.



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Postby Transyl » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:11 am

Creepoc Infinite wrote:
Transyl wrote:So what your saying is you think every religion makes no sense right, only because it frustrates you? Oh that makes it all different..not. Thats not a good reasoning to go against all religions And if you really don't have any other reasons why religion does not make any sense to you, then you really don't need to be arguing about it. And I can tell you're really getting pissed off, just remember you're the one who created this discussion, and the one who is choosing to argue. If you can't take the heat, then get the fuck out of the kitchen dude. Don't start something you can't finish.

You know fucking well that that's not an argument I make for religions not being true.
Religions don't make any logical sense to me, so when people claim it does, that frustrates me.
It's ONE OF the reasons I have little patience for religious arguments.

And I'm only pissed off right now because if an unrelated discussion I was having with my teacher about why I'm not doing their class work (nothing to do with this site)
And that other guy claiming I know nothing about religion and know nothing about the details, and me being narcisistic or whatever.

Sorry but every damn time someone calls me full of myself, arrogant or narcisistic, it is so damn annoying because of how many times people say that about me when it's not true.

I kind of agree with the fact that you most likely know nothing about religion, and if you do then you just choose to ignore the information and continue with calling them illogical. And you do sound like your narcissistic , due to the fact that you feel like your correct about everything you say and you thinking Atheism is logical. If this isn't arguing, then it must be a debate. And if you really are pissed, just remember you created this discussion.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:12 am

Creepoc Infinite wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
It's a figure of speech dude.

Yeah I know, I realized that as I posted the... Post.
But I don't know what you were saying exactly either


As long as you are thoroughly convinced that belief in god is delusional, any argument for that will be seen as a symptom of that delusion.

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Postby Zottistan » Wed Dec 03, 2014 11:12 am

Transyl wrote:I'm a Wicca, and I am neutral towards other religions. But one things I cannot stand is when Atheists, and certain religions try to say that they're better or that they have the 'correct' beliefs. Whenever I see people like that, I immediately get pissed off because there is no 'correct' religion or belief and such.

Of course there's a correct set of religious beliefs.

We just don't know which ones.
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