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by Sphermenia » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:29 pm
by Celritannia » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:31 pm
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by Immoren » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:37 pm
Celritannia wrote:New Hampshire Republic wrote:
I knew the Christmas Tree thing, but I didn't know the stuff about the gods. That's interesting.
I found this actually, if you are interested.
Interestingly, all these Gods were born of Virgins, on the 25th and were Sun God/Gods of the Sun.
Although Buddha is never proclaimed to be a God, he never said he was, and there is no evidence to say he was a God at all.
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Celritannia » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:41 pm
Immoren wrote:Celritannia wrote:
I found this actually, if you are interested.
Interestingly, all these Gods were born of Virgins, on the 25th and were Sun God/Gods of the Sun.
Although Buddha is never proclaimed to be a God, he never said he was, and there is no evidence to say he was a God at all.
Wasn't this debunked last time this was brought up?
I can't find it..
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by Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:42 pm
Celritannia wrote:New Hampshire Republic wrote:
I knew the Christmas Tree thing, but I didn't know the stuff about the gods. That's interesting.
I found this actually, if you are interested.
Interestingly, all these Gods were born of Virgins, on the 25th and were Sun God/Gods of the Sun.
Although Buddha is never proclaimed to be a God, he never said he was, and there is no evidence to say he was a God at all.
by Immoren » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:43 pm
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by Ripoll » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:53 pm
toke jopic
by Murkwood » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:55 pm
Degenerate Heart of HetRio wrote:Murkwood, I'm surprised you're not an anti-Semite and don't mind most LGBT rights because boy, aren't you a constellation of the worst opinions to have about everything? o_o
Benuty wrote:I suppose Ken Ham, and the league of Republican-Neocolonialist-Zionist Catholics will not be pleased.
Soldati senza confini wrote:Did I just try to rationalize Murkwood's logic? Please shoot me.
by Ripoll » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:55 pm
by Celritannia » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:55 pm
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by The Rich Port » Mon Dec 01, 2014 2:57 pm
by Ripoll » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:01 pm
by The Rich Port » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:03 pm
Ripoll wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
Religion is about as peaceful as guns are.
Religion builds happy and sustainable communities that interpret gospel to better their lives and give a deeper meaning ingrained in what they do. People who commit crimes in the name or religion are fundamentally bad people and what they believe led them to do what they did is almost always in contradiction of how the religious base interprets liturgy. People can take anything into extremes and make what they're representing look evil, misconstrued, or unethical.
The problem are genuinely awful people, not religious beliefs or institutional religions.
by Immoren » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:10 pm
discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there
by The Rich Port » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:12 pm
by Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:12 pm
Celritannia wrote:Then I do apologise for linking a false piece of information.
If someone could link an accurate mythological list of deities born on the 25th of December, it would be most helpful.
As I understand, Sol was definitely born on this date.
There is this one that seems to have further external links.
But I think this one is more interesting at another reason why we celebrate sun Gods in december, during the harsh winter months, rather than deities being born on the 25th.
by Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:16 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Immoren wrote:
Depends on religion, doesn't it?
I dunno.
All religions have the same logical and philosophical problems by their very definition.
It all goes back to the question of whether morality can be objective without a god.
I think it can, but only if humanity makes a concerted effort to do so, and that concerted effort has yet to take place explicitly because of theism.
by Celritannia » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:16 pm
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Celritannia wrote:Then I do apologise for linking a false piece of information.
If someone could link an accurate mythological list of deities born on the 25th of December, it would be most helpful.
As I understand, Sol was definitely born on this date.
There is this one that seems to have further external links.
But I think this one is more interesting at another reason why we celebrate sun Gods in december, during the harsh winter months, rather than deities being born on the 25th.
Well that's easy, its the Winter solstice, dawning of a new year. A lot of those deities aren't born on December 25 but rather the Winter Solstice. Catholic Church moved the celebration of Christ's birth to December 25 to make converting the Pagans much easier.
Religion is nothing if not political.
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by Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:17 pm
The Rich Port wrote:Immoren wrote:
Depends on religion, doesn't it?
I dunno.
All religions have the same logical and philosophical problems by their very definition.
It all goes back to the question of whether morality can be objective without a god.
I think it can, but only if humanity makes a concerted effort to do so, and that concerted effort has yet to take place explicitly because of theism.
by The Smith Protectorate » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:18 pm
Creepoc Infinite wrote:Bunkeranlage wrote:
I'll just leave this here:
"It was my science that drove me to the conclusion that the world was much more complicated than can be explained by science... it was only through the supernatural that I can understand the the mystery of existence"
- Allan Rex Sandage, astronomer
Ah, I know this quote.
Different people with different upbringings will come to different conclusions.
Supernatural is not science. Supernatural is not nature. If it isn't part of nature, than it doesn't exist in our reality. So either this quote I was a poor choice of words, or he is full of shit.
As for the universe being too complicated to be explained by science. That only speaks for our CURRENT understanding.
Science is not static, it is constantly gaining new information.
by Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:18 pm
Celritannia wrote:Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
Well that's easy, its the Winter solstice, dawning of a new year. A lot of those deities aren't born on December 25 but rather the Winter Solstice. Catholic Church moved the celebration of Christ's birth to December 25 to make converting the Pagans much easier.
Religion is nothing if not political.
Indeed it is. And Elitist, After all, those who were literate could read the bible, no one else could.
by The Cobalt Sky » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:19 pm
by The Rich Port » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:20 pm
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:The Rich Port wrote:
I dunno.
All religions have the same logical and philosophical problems by their very definition.
It all goes back to the question of whether morality can be objective without a god.
I think it can, but only if humanity makes a concerted effort to do so, and that concerted effort has yet to take place explicitly because of theism.
If humanity were to make an effort at creating objective morality it would defeat the purpose. Any morality humanity would create would be subjective not objective.
Even if all of humanity agreed it would still be subjective.
by The Smith Protectorate » Mon Dec 01, 2014 3:21 pm
Tarsonis Survivors wrote:Celritannia wrote:
I found this actually, if you are interested.
Interestingly, all these Gods were born of Virgins, on the 25th and were Sun God/Gods of the Sun.
Although Buddha is never proclaimed to be a God, he never said he was, and there is no evidence to say he was a God at all.
Yeah that source is crap.
Krishna born July 19.
Buddha born April or May 8 (depending on tradition)
Horus was born in July/ August.
Mithras has no real birthday that is known.
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