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Sebastianbourg
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:35 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Alizeria wrote:It's hard to say with New Zealand as we only just had an election, but I honestly suspect that National will scrape in with a fourth term in 2017.

Labour is still going to take a long time to recover from its internal problems, especially given their shocking result in September and I can't imagine Winston Peters will still be around in 2017 which will lose the left a valuable coalition partner (let's face it, Winston won't go into coalition with John Key).

Admittedly Andrew Little looks like a very effective opposition leader, and could well get Labour into the 30% range by 2017 making it a much closer election but unless John Key gets hit by a bus, or unless there is a real scandal which manages to taint him (the 'Dirty Politics' stuff won't because the only people who care are the people who already oppose Mr. Key) I think that they will narrowly gain a fourth term.


I can actually see Labour winning government in 2017, although not by a large majority. It will definitely need to be with the Greens and whichever batshit left-wing party rises in the next three years following the demise of both the Internet Party and Mana. New Zealand Prime Ministers generally do not last beyond three terms, if recent history is to be believed.

Little seems like a best bet for 2017, if he manages to avoid being a complete and utter moron like his predecessors. Time will tell.

I love you Kiwis but wtf were you guys smoking when you let Kim Dotcom in?

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:36 am

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Valaran wrote:
My last shred of credibility I considered giving for your argument was lost right about then .

He lost all his credibility in the second page.



I gave him the benefit of the doubt.... not for any good reason, but just because I guess.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:36 am

Valaran wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:He lost all his credibility in the second page.



I gave him the benefit of the doubt.... not for any good reason, but just because.

I just wanted to have a bit of fun.

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Costa Fierro
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:37 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:He can. His popularity on the global level in some people (including myself is increasing). Of course, if he decides to hit back, all he needs to do from there, is arm his supporters here in the West. Its simple.


To do what exactly? Violently overthrow democratically elected governments and shoot dead political opponents?
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Postby Valaran » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:38 am

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Valaran wrote:

I gave him the benefit of the doubt.... not for any good reason, but just because.

I just wanted to have a bit of fun.



That's the crux of it really.
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Postby United facist States of America » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:40 am

Sebastianbourg wrote:Why hasn't the Swedish person replied? What does the Feminist Initiative propose?

They propose that women should get more seats in Parliament ( they already have more then 50% ) they also believe that everyone in Parliament right now is either Sexist or racist ( which is just plain ridicolous ). They also say that Sweden is a patriarchy ( Even though more then half of the People in Parliament are women).
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Postby Empire of Vlissingen » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:41 am

Netherlands a centre right coalittion of PVV, CDA and VVD.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:42 am

Sebastianbourg wrote:I love you Kiwis but wtf were you guys smoking when you let Kim Dotcom in?


I'm not entirely sure. We were probably on the same drugs America was when it elected Bush Jr.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:43 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:I love you Kiwis but wtf were you guys smoking when you let Kim Dotcom in?


I'm not entirely sure. We were probably on the same drugs America was when it elected Bush Jr.

Drug addiction is a family thing then.

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Postby New Chalcedon » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:43 am

Empire of Vlissingen wrote:Netherlands a centre right coalittion of PVV, CDA and VVD.


No coalition that includes Geert Wilders can reasonably be called "center-right".
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:44 am

United facist States of America wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:Why hasn't the Swedish person replied? What does the Feminist Initiative propose?

They propose that women should get more seats in Parliament ( they already have more then 50% ) they also believe that everyone in Parliament right now is either Sexist or racist ( which is just plain ridicolous ). They also say that Sweden is a patriarchy ( Even though more then half of the People in Parliament are women).

But they have no chances of getting any seats in the Riksdag, right?

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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:45 am

New Chalcedon wrote:
Empire of Vlissingen wrote:Netherlands a centre right coalittion of PVV, CDA and VVD.


No coalition that includes Geert Wilders can reasonably be called "center-right".

Pro-immigrant, left I'd say. :p

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Postby Valaran » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:46 am

Sebastianbourg wrote:
New Chalcedon wrote:
No coalition that includes Geert Wilders can reasonably be called "center-right".

Pro-immigrant, left I'd say. :p



Strictly anarcho-communist or juche would have my view.
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Postby Bandwagon » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:47 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
It is my belief, that we shalt have a Sixth French Republic, run by myself, others in such a revolutionary government, as well as the masses themselves in an economic direct-democracy Qadhafi style; with a Communist economy, a Traditionalist socio-cultural outlook, an anti-Revisionist platform, an environmentalist platform, a transparency anti-corruption platform, a Pluralist platform (ensuring peaceful co-existence between all religions, ethnicities, races, irreligious in our country, utilising Syria's model as inspiration), a Left-wing Nationalist platform; with a staunch foreign policy that runs along the lines of anti-Capitalism, anti-Zionism, anti-Fascism, anti-Nazism, anti-Banderites, anti-Uribism, anti-Apartheid (believe it or not, some nations like Morocco or Israel still practise it), anti-McCarthyism, anti-Hedonism, anti-Liberalism, anti-Conservatism, anti-Libertarianism, anti-Mercantilism, anti-Social Darwinism, anti-Imperialism, anti-Colonialism, anti-Ottomanism, anti-Takfirism in addition to anti-Globalisation. Such a Sixth Republic's economics might be a blend of Central Planning (State regulates economy in addition to means of production, organises five-year period guidelines, etcetera), Project Cybersyn, with Localised Planning (revolutionary popular committees run by all peasants & workers; masses own means of production). The State would not touch personal property (your homes, personal belongings, electronics, food, cars, etcetera), however will abolish private property (corporations, conglomerates, private sector financial mobster banks, etcetera). Nationalisation of all domestic in addition to foreign assets would ensue to prioritise people over profits, to utilise these assets for the benefit of the masses by throwing it all into redistribution of wealth, land reforms, socio-economic public programmes, raising living standards, whilst also reduce income inequality altogether.

So you want us to live under Putin's command. Ok. Why do you think that Putin and Assad are left wing?
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:47 am

Valaran wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:Pro-immigrant, left I'd say. :p



Strictly anarcho-communist or juche would have my view.

He said Noam Chomsky is his idol about a week ago.

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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:48 am

Bandwagon wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
It is my belief, that we shalt have a Sixth French Republic, run by myself, others in such a revolutionary government, as well as the masses themselves in an economic direct-democracy Qadhafi style; with a Communist economy, a Traditionalist socio-cultural outlook, an anti-Revisionist platform, an environmentalist platform, a transparency anti-corruption platform, a Pluralist platform (ensuring peaceful co-existence between all religions, ethnicities, races, irreligious in our country, utilising Syria's model as inspiration), a Left-wing Nationalist platform; with a staunch foreign policy that runs along the lines of anti-Capitalism, anti-Zionism, anti-Fascism, anti-Nazism, anti-Banderites, anti-Uribism, anti-Apartheid (believe it or not, some nations like Morocco or Israel still practise it), anti-McCarthyism, anti-Hedonism, anti-Liberalism, anti-Conservatism, anti-Libertarianism, anti-Mercantilism, anti-Social Darwinism, anti-Imperialism, anti-Colonialism, anti-Ottomanism, anti-Takfirism in addition to anti-Globalisation. Such a Sixth Republic's economics might be a blend of Central Planning (State regulates economy in addition to means of production, organises five-year period guidelines, etcetera), Project Cybersyn, with Localised Planning (revolutionary popular committees run by all peasants & workers; masses own means of production). The State would not touch personal property (your homes, personal belongings, electronics, food, cars, etcetera), however will abolish private property (corporations, conglomerates, private sector financial mobster banks, etcetera). Nationalisation of all domestic in addition to foreign assets would ensue to prioritise people over profits, to utilise these assets for the benefit of the masses by throwing it all into redistribution of wealth, land reforms, socio-economic public programmes, raising living standards, whilst also reduce income inequality altogether.

So you want us to live under Putin's command. Ok. Why do you think that Putin and Assad are left wing?
Can I buy some of your drugs?

Strictly exclusive to France, sorry.

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Postby United facist States of America » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:48 am

Sebastianbourg wrote:
United facist States of America wrote:They propose that women should get more seats in Parliament ( they already have more then 50% ) they also believe that everyone in Parliament right now is either Sexist or racist ( which is just plain ridicolous ). They also say that Sweden is a patriarchy ( Even though more then half of the People in Parliament are women).

But they have no chances of getting any seats in the Riksdag, right?

Well Last election they got 3.5% of votes ( you Need 4% to Enter the riksdag ) so Sadly they have a decent Chance.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:50 am

United facist States of America wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:But they have no chances of getting any seats in the Riksdag, right?

Well Last election they got 3.5% of votes ( you Need 4% to Enter the riksdag ) so Sadly they have a decent Chance.

I can imagine them at the Kungliga slottet giving the King an ultimatum; you abdicate and make Victoria the Queen or we abolish the monarchy! :p

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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:50 am

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Bandwagon wrote:So you want us to live under Putin's command. Ok. Why do you think that Putin and Assad are left wing?
Can I buy some of your drugs?

Strictly exclusive to France, sorry.


Someone probably spiked their hashish.
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Postby Toronina » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:50 am

I think Bill Shorten and the Labor party will win in Australia. The current liberals have to much controversy going for them, especially with installing a biased speaker, the Prime Minister making cushy spots for his daughters, and the broken promises. I just don't see them staying in, no matter how hard Murdoch tries.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:52 am

Toronina wrote:I think Bill Shorten and the Labor party will win in Australia. The current liberals have to much controversy going for them, especially with installing a biased speaker, the Prime Minister making cushy spots for his daughters, and the broken promises. I just don't see them staying in, no matter how hard Murdoch tries.


I never figured Shorten to be...leader material. He just seems a bit...weird. But don't worry. We're likely to elect a balding guy with nerd glasses and a speech impediment....
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:52 am

Costa Fierro wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:Strictly exclusive to France, sorry.


Someone probably spiked their hashish.

The Parisian suburbs are where the shit is at.

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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:52 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Insaeldor wrote:
Again assumption. Only reason the rebels even hold as much territory as they do is because *gasp* 5,000 russian troops are helping them! Oh god no even though you just look at russian military training and statustics and know there a piss poor fighting force aside from the elite units. Also assumes that Putin ISO somehow reestablished USSR yet last time I check the USSR wasn't dominated by a generic big tent Conservative Traditionalist party? Yeah that quote goes two ways bud he should probably stop pressing on the NATO spring in might just snap back and poke his eye out. Then again why would he need it right?

Did Putin order these mobilisations? No. Its pretty clear Russians are emotionally inclined to support Novorossiya, even before the central government even gives the go ahead. There is no evidence that Putin has been directly involved (for now), its just MSM hypes or NATO McCarthyism all over again. Two, if anything, its our NATO régimes that are provoking Russia, encircling it with fascist esque states or Wahhabi terrorist organisations (be it done by NATO or through its GCC/Zionist proxies).


You mean Russian civilians can buy T-90's? Holy fucking tits guys I'm moving to Russia just for that. It's plainly obvious when Putin's lapdog Lukashenko isn't even arguing the readability of the reports which are not only concluded by multiple military encounters but also media reports. Buts it's all just a massive Globalist/Zionist/Jihadist/Imperialist/Nazi/Illuminati conseracy against Putin right? McCarthyism? I don't hate communist son I am disappointed in people simply follow the propaganda of one state because they hold an ideological bias towards the others even though russia as it is now is no different then America under Reagan as far as policy goes. Last time I checked the only facist on russia border was Belarus but I mean the Baltic states even with there free and fair election just have to be evil nazi wannabes right? So surrounding you with Wahhabi terror states and Zionist terrorist? Again we miss you here in logic land my friend. It's pretty weird that we fight against Wahhabist and than some how say go for it so we can bully Russia? Can't tell if simply trying defend a lossing viewpoint or not. I mean Zionist terrorist? Israel is a few miles down south plus I'm sure they have better things to worry about then the Ukraine but that just a thought and all. And last time a checked no state boardering russia has had a strong islamic terrorist issuevwithbthevexception of the Caucasus but that's a lot more to duevwhich Chechen nationalism and let's not forget how piss poor of an insurgency it is. I mean if we really had a hand they'd have a repeat of Afghanistan and I'm fairly sure that's not what we're seeing.
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Postby United facist States of America » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:53 am

Sebastianbourg wrote:
United facist States of America wrote:Well Last election they got 3.5% of votes ( you Need 4% to Enter the riksdag ) so Sadly they have a decent Chance.

I can imagine them at the Kungliga slottet giving the King an ultimatum; you abdicate and make Victoria the Queen or we abolish the monarchy! :p

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Postby Valaran » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:55 am

Insaeldor wrote:
You mean Russian civilians can buy T-90's? Holy fucking tits guys I'm moving to Russia just for that.


Black Friday is Russia is more similar than we think.
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Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
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