Next Government you Predict your IRL Nation will Have.

[Sebastianbourg]

The Pope's already awesome, but this would be the next level. You can do it, Francis!

Oh God, this might get me excommunicated.

[Ainin]

It is my belief, that we shalt have a Sixth French Republic, run by myself, others in such a revolutionary government, as well as the masses themselves in an economic direct-democracy Qadhafi style; with a Communist economy, a Traditionalist socio-cultural outlook, an anti-Revisionist platform, an environmentalist platform, a transparency anti-corruption platform, a Pluralist platform (ensuring peaceful co-existence between all religions, ethnicities, races, irreligious in our country, utilising Syria's model as inspiration), a Left-wing Nationalist platform; with a staunch foreign policy that runs along the lines of anti-Capitalism, anti-Zionism, anti-Fascism, anti-Nazism, anti-Banderites, anti-Uribism, anti-Apartheid (believe it or not, some nations like Morocco or Israel still practise it), anti-McCarthyism, anti-Hedonism, anti-Liberalism, anti-Conservatism, anti-Libertarianism, anti-Mercantilism, anti-Social Darwinism, anti-Imperialism, anti-Colonialism, anti-Ottomanism, anti-Takfirism in addition to anti-Globalisation. Such a Sixth Republic's economics might be a blend of Central Planning (State regulates economy in addition to means of production, organises five-year period guidelines, etcetera), Project Cybersyn, with Localised Planning (revolutionary popular committees run by all peasants & workers; masses own means of production). The State would not touch personal property (your homes, personal belongings, electronics, food, cars, etcetera), however will abolish private property (corporations, conglomerates, private sector financial mobster banks, etcetera). Nationalisation of all domestic in addition to foreign assets would ensue to prioritise people over profits, to utilise these assets for the benefit of the masses by throwing it all into redistribution of wealth, land reforms, socio-economic public programmes, raising living standards, whilst also reduce income inequality altogether.

OP said predictions for your next government as in the next governing party(ies), not unrealistic pipe dreams about Stalinist France.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

If Novorossiya wins, its a different story now is it?

Yes, the RF can become the USSR again. The more NATO antagonises it & accuses it of committing transgressions within its own borders, whilst NATO also pours more backing for Nazis already documented for committing harrowing crimes against Novorossiya, the likelier Putin will just reproclaim the USSR to fight back.

To quote Putin himself,

Oh I'm not questioning Putin's desire to push back. i'm questioning his ability to influence anything more than 100 km 9which is pushing it anyway) from his borders in any meaningful capacity outside of Central Asia.

He can. His popularity on the global level in some people (including myself is increasing). Of course, if he decides to hit back, all he needs to do from there, is arm his supporters here in the West. Its simple.

[Valaran]

The Pope's already awesome, but this would be the next level. You can do it, Francis!

C'mon peer pressure isn't that bad Franky!

That's the Holy Spirit! (lighthearted though I apologise in case anyone thought that went too far)

[Greater Mackonia]

Key point: There are no more soviets. The USSR is not a thing, stop trying to make the USSR happen!

(extra points if you get the reference)

Two words: It's back.

Clue: Novorossiya

Besides, Putin is more of a left-wing nationalist then a capitalist. Russia's real mad capitalists was during the Yeltsin era's shock therapy, which Putin mostly reversed. He also rightfully put many of those Yeltsin era oligarchs behind bars.

China is "capitalist" for overseas trading purposes, socialist at home. Besides this, Xi Jinping from what I read in Xinhua & other Chinese sources, is from the old guard CPC, which means somewhere down the road he might go anti-revisionist.

Putin is no socialist and you have still not answered my query as to how you intend to get the French public to support your 'revolution'.

[Valaran]

Oh I'm not questioning Putin's desire to push back. i'm questioning his ability to influence anything more than 100 km 9which is pushing it anyway) from his borders in any meaningful capacity outside of Central Asia.

He can. His popularity on the global level in some people (including myself is increasing). Of course, if he decides to hit back, all he needs to do from there, is arm his supporters here in the West. Its simple.

Its simple.... to cut off Russia from the global financial system if he tries something so stupid like that. Putin knows this as well; he won't press too far.

Of course there is the small matter that said rebels in the west are basically non-existent.

[Insaeldor]

So some backassward breakaway state in what is basicly Europes ghetto is the next Soviet Union? Or are you imply that the RF is new Soviet Union?

Let's break this down real quick

Supporting revolution in Ukraine=/= supporting revolution in France.

You've basicly constructed this idea in a fantasy land it it be real nice of you to join us in logic land.

If Novorossiya wins, its a different story now is it?

Yes, the RF can become the USSR again. The more NATO antagonises it & accuses it of committing transgressions within its own borders, whilst NATO also pours more backing for Nazis already documented for committing harrowing crimes against Novorossiya, the likelier Putin will just reproclaim the USSR to fight back.

To quote Putin himself,

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If you press the spring too hard, it will snap back. You must always remember this.

Again assumption. Only reason the rebels even hold as much territory as they do is because *gasp* 5,000 russian troops are helping them! Oh god no even though you just look at russian military training and statustics and know there a piss poor fighting force aside from the elite units. Also assumes that Putin ISO somehow reestablished USSR yet last time I check the USSR wasn't dominated by a generic big tent Conservative Traditionalist party? Yeah that quote goes two ways bud he should probably stop pressing on the NATO spring in might just snap back and poke his eye out. Then again why would he need it right?

[Valaran]

The Pope's already awesome, but this would be the next level. You can do it, Francis!

I concur with his viewpoint, though I lack his chemist credentials.

Oh God, this might get me excommunicated.

Franky's too cool to do lame stuff like that

[Sebastianbourg]

I concur with his viewpoint, though I lack his chemist credentials.

Oh God, this might get me excommunicated.

Franky's too cool to do lame stuff like that

Shit, I messed up the meme while trying to edit it.

[Valaran]

I concur with his viewpoint, though I lack his chemist credentials.





Franky's too cool to do lame stuff like that

Shit, I messed up the meme while trying to edit it.

Its alright, the Pope's still got that sweg.

*stops my partial threadjack about now*

[Sebastianbourg]

Shit, I messed up the meme while trying to edit it.

Its alright, the Pope's still got that sweg.

Now, back to the unrealistic revolutionaries.

[Valaran]

Its alright, the Pope's still got that sweg.

Now, back to the unrealistic revolutionaries.

Or the UK politics. I've run out of ideas there though other than to say 'its difficult to say' but 'no one is likely to get a full majority'.

[Sebastianbourg]

Now, back to the unrealistic revolutionaries.

Or the UK politics. I've run out of ideas there though other than to say 'its difficult to say' but 'no one is likely to get a full majority'.

I should just keep on reposting Polish parliament.

[Insaeldor]

Now, back to the unrealistic revolutionaries.

Or the UK politics. I've run out of ideas there though other than to say 'its difficult to say' but 'no one is likely to get a full majority'.

#GetYourShitTogetherClegg

[Valaran]

Or the UK politics. I've run out of ideas there though other than to say 'its difficult to say' but 'no one is likely to get a full majority'.

I should just keep on reposting Polish parliament.

Yes you should

Though that's almost more relevant in the UKIP thread.

[Valaran]

Or the UK politics. I've run out of ideas there though other than to say 'its difficult to say' but 'no one is likely to get a full majority'.

#GetYourShitTogetherClegg

A motto I can get behind.

[Souriya Al-Assad]

Two words: It's back.

Clue: Novorossiya

Besides, Putin is more of a left-wing nationalist then a capitalist. Russia's real mad capitalists was during the Yeltsin era's shock therapy, which Putin mostly reversed. He also rightfully put many of those Yeltsin era oligarchs behind bars.

China is "capitalist" for overseas trading purposes, socialist at home. Besides this, Xi Jinping from what I read in Xinhua & other Chinese sources, is from the old guard CPC, which means somewhere down the road he might go anti-revisionist.

Putin is no socialist and you have still not answered my query as to how you intend to get the French public to support your 'revolution'.

By giving the public my sincere political platform, plus implementing half of them (the ones where I place my life on the line to help fraternal movements & governments), which would in turn show the people that I am serious about my promises.
Furthermore, I would show myself as the better alternative to the mainstream political choices, galvanise the public with decent rhetoric, show them the truth about NATO's crimes + those of its puppets, promise to oppose their madness, come home & run for the 2017 elections once I have helped the fraternal movements I support elsewhere succeed. In addition, if I can get some level of influence as a foreign adviser in Novorossiya (I would not be the first one either, revolutionary Egypt post-MB hires foreign advisers too), moreover get them to successfully implement some of my policies, it would increase my credibility at home.

[Sebastianbourg]

I should just keep on reposting Polish parliament.

Yes you should

Though that's almost more relevant in the UKIP thread.

I see what you did there.
But in reality I'm referring to a term I learnt while living in Sweden for a few months (in which I didn't learn any Swedish because my social circle was limited to the social circle of a drunk Anglophile I met at a bar in Göteborg and my accent was so bad people would start speaking to me in English as soon as I opened my mouth). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_par ... expression)

[Valaran]

Putin is no socialist and you have still not answered my query as to how you intend to get the French public to support your 'revolution'.

By giving the public my sincere political platform, plus implementing half of them (the ones where I place my life on the line to help fraternal movements & governments), which would in turn show the people that I am serious about my promises.
Furthermore, I would show myself as the better alternative to the mainstream political choices, galvanise the public with decent rhetoric, show them the truth about NATO's crimes + those of its puppets, promise to oppose their madness, come home & run for the 2017 elections once I have helped the fraternal movements I support elsewhere succeed. In addition, if I can get some level of influence as a foreign adviser in Novorossiya (I would not be the first one either, revolutionary Egypt post-MB hires foreign advisers too), moreover get them to successfully implement some of my policies, it would increase my credibility at home.

I don't doubt you are serious about your rhetoric. It hardly convinces, though.

Marine le Pen (for all that I disagree with her about everything) already stole your position as the plucky outsider though. And if those movements elsewhere don't succeed?

[Souriya Al-Assad]

If Novorossiya wins, its a different story now is it?

Yes, the RF can become the USSR again. The more NATO antagonises it & accuses it of committing transgressions within its own borders, whilst NATO also pours more backing for Nazis already documented for committing harrowing crimes against Novorossiya, the likelier Putin will just reproclaim the USSR to fight back.

To quote Putin himself,

Again assumption. Only reason the rebels even hold as much territory as they do is because *gasp* 5,000 russian troops are helping them! Oh god no even though you just look at russian military training and statustics and know there a piss poor fighting force aside from the elite units. Also assumes that Putin ISO somehow reestablished USSR yet last time I check the USSR wasn't dominated by a generic big tent Conservative Traditionalist party? Yeah that quote goes two ways bud he should probably stop pressing on the NATO spring in might just snap back and poke his eye out. Then again why would he need it right?

Did Putin order these mobilisations? No. Its pretty clear Russians are emotionally inclined to support Novorossiya, even before the central government even gives the go ahead. There is no evidence that Putin has been directly involved (for now), its just MSM hypes or NATO McCarthyism all over again. Two, if anything, its our NATO régimes that are provoking Russia, encircling it with fascist esque states or Wahhabi terrorist organisations (be it done by NATO or through its GCC/Zionist proxies).

[Sebastianbourg]

Again assumption. Only reason the rebels even hold as much territory as they do is because *gasp* 5,000 russian troops are helping them! Oh god no even though you just look at russian military training and statustics and know there a piss poor fighting force aside from the elite units. Also assumes that Putin ISO somehow reestablished USSR yet last time I check the USSR wasn't dominated by a generic big tent Conservative Traditionalist party? Yeah that quote goes two ways bud he should probably stop pressing on the NATO spring in might just snap back and poke his eye out. Then again why would he need it right?

Did Putin order these mobilisations? No. Its pretty clear Russians are emotionally inclined to support Novorossiya, even before the central government even gives the go ahead. There is no evidence that Putin has been directly involved (for now), its just MSM hypes or NATO McCarthyism all over again. Two, if anything, its our NATO régimes that are provoking Russia, encircling it with fascist esque states or Wahhabi terrorist organisations (be it done by NATO or through its GCC/Zionist proxies).

[Greater Mackonia]

Putin is no socialist and you have still not answered my query as to how you intend to get the French public to support your 'revolution'.

By giving the public my sincere political platform, plus implementing half of them (the ones where I place my life on the line to help fraternal movements & governments), which would in turn show the people that I am serious about my promises.
Furthermore, I would show myself as the better alternative to the mainstream political choices, galvanise the public with decent rhetoric, show them the truth about NATO's crimes + those of its puppets, promise to oppose their madness, come home & run for the 2017 elections once I have helped the fraternal movements I support elsewhere succeed. In addition, if I can get some level of influence as a foreign adviser in Novorossiya (I would not be the first one either, revolutionary Egypt post-MB hires foreign advisers too), moreover get them to successfully implement some of my policies, it would increase my credibility at home.

I suppose the point I am trying to make is that the French public may not necessarily like or want those policies, they may approve of NATO's crimes, they may despise your 'fraternal movements'.

[Valaran]

There is no evidence that Putin has been directly involved (for now), its just MSM hypes or NATO McCarthyism all over again.

My last shred of credibility I considered giving for your argument was lost right about then .

[Sebastianbourg]

There is no evidence that Putin has been directly involved (for now), its just MSM hypes or NATO McCarthyism all over again.

My last shred of credibility I considered giving for your argument was lost right about then .

He lost all his credibility in the second page.

[Costa Fierro]

It's hard to say with New Zealand as we only just had an election, but I honestly suspect that National will scrape in with a fourth term in 2017.

Labour is still going to take a long time to recover from its internal problems, especially given their shocking result in September and I can't imagine Winston Peters will still be around in 2017 which will lose the left a valuable coalition partner (let's face it, Winston won't go into coalition with John Key).

Admittedly Andrew Little looks like a very effective opposition leader, and could well get Labour into the 30% range by 2017 making it a much closer election but unless John Key gets hit by a bus, or unless there is a real scandal which manages to taint him (the 'Dirty Politics' stuff won't because the only people who care are the people who already oppose Mr. Key) I think that they will narrowly gain a fourth term.

I can actually see Labour winning government in 2017, although not by a large majority. It will definitely need to be with the Greens and whichever batshit left-wing party rises in the next three years following the demise of both the Internet Party and Mana. New Zealand Prime Ministers generally do not last beyond three terms, if recent history is to be believed.

Little seems like a best bet for 2017, if he manages to avoid being a complete and utter moron like his predecessors. Time will tell.