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Postby Asigna » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:03 am

Rodrigo Duterte ruled totalitarian regime. Miriam defensor Santiago ruled republic.
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:03 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote: :rofl:

Come on, I would not be the first one historically speaking to have done that.

International Brigades in Spain, Che Guevara, Vietnam's Communist revolutionaries, Algeria's FLN...

Cold War 2,0 is here, it should not be difficult to convince Russia to give me what I need.


There is a small flaw in your plan; have you perhaps considered that the French people will be less than enthusiastic about your 'revolution'.

Anyway in the case of Britain I imagine a Conservative government by a very small minority and possibly in coalition with the Liberals again or even UKIP.
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Postby Valaran » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:04 am

Gigaverse wrote:Allow me to declare my inability to comment regarding the political situation in Vietnam.



Sorry Giga :/
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Insaeldor
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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:04 am

Valaran wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:> assumes he can get enough men to defeat NATO

The Luxembourg army would already be enough.


*Sends in the Liechtenstein police force*

Vatican Swiss guard has this under control, they can just use their funny looking spears and costumes to evoke epileptic convulsions.
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Souriya Al-Assad
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:04 am

Valaran wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:You know the Soviets as well as the Chinese have supplied a great deal of revolutions in addition to revolutionary governments worldwide yes? Ultimately its down to them to resume this role in full.



Key point: There are no more soviets. The USSR is not a thing, stop trying to make the USSR happen!

(extra points if you get the reference)

Two words: It's back.

Clue: Novorossiya

Besides, Putin is more of a left-wing nationalist then a capitalist. Russia's real mad capitalists was during the Yeltsin era's shock therapy, which Putin mostly reversed. He also rightfully put many of those Yeltsin era oligarchs behind bars.

China is "capitalist" for overseas trading purposes, socialist at home. Besides this, Xi Jinping from what I read in Xinhua & other Chinese sources, is from the old guard CPC, which means somewhere down the road he might go anti-revisionist.
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Postby Elepis » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:05 am

UK: Labour & SNP coalition OR Tory

Russia (where I used to live): hmmmm, I don't know..... Putin
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:05 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Valaran wrote:

Key point: There are no more soviets. The USSR is not a thing, stop trying to make the USSR happen!

(extra points if you get the reference)

Two words: It's back.

Clue: Novorossiya


Lolwut?
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Postby Valaran » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:05 am

Insaeldor wrote:
Valaran wrote:
*Sends in the Liechtenstein police force*

Vatican Swiss guard has this under control, they can just use their funny looking spears and costumes to evoke epileptic convulsions.


Exactly. Though I'd prefer it if they did a dance routine - they have the costume part down already. Just got to work on their moves a little.
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:05 am

Valaran wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:> assumes he can get enough men to defeat NATO

The Luxembourg army would already be enough.


*Sends in the Liechtenstein police force*

Send in the Compagnie des Carabiniers du Prince just in case.

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Postby Valaran » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:06 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Valaran wrote:

Key point: There are no more soviets. The USSR is not a thing, stop trying to make the USSR happen!

(extra points if you get the reference)

Two words: It's back.

Clue: Novorossiya


One word: lol

Clue: A word that means nothing in this context - or an unrealistic ideal. And not a positive ideal at that, thought that's jsut my opinion ;)
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I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Postby Servica » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:07 am

Asigna wrote:Rodrigo Duterte ruled totalitarian regime. Miriam defensor Santiago ruled republic.

What's the difference? There's still rule... :eyebrow:
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:07 am

Valaran wrote:
Insaeldor wrote:Vatican Swiss guard has this under control, they can just use their funny looking spears and costumes to evoke epileptic convulsions.


Exactly. Though I'd prefer it if they did a dance routine - they have the costume part down already. Just got to work on their moves a little.

The Pope would lead them with a giant poster saying 'Hedonism is good! I'm a chemist so you better believe me!'

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Insaeldor
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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:08 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Valaran wrote:

Key point: There are no more soviets. The USSR is not a thing, stop trying to make the USSR happen!

(extra points if you get the reference)

Two words: It's back.

Clue: Novorossiya


So some backassward breakaway state in what is basicly Europes ghetto is the next Soviet Union? Or are you imply that the RF is new Soviet Union?

Let's break this down real quick

Supporting revolution in Ukraine=/= supporting revolution in France.

You've basicly constructed this idea in a fantasy land it it be real nice of you to join us in logic land.
Time is a prismatic uniform polyhedron

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Sebastianbourg
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:09 am

Why hasn't the Swedish person replied? What does the Feminist Initiative propose?

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Postby Valaran » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:09 am

Sebastianbourg wrote:
Valaran wrote:
Exactly. Though I'd prefer it if they did a dance routine - they have the costume part down already. Just got to work on their moves a little.

The Pope would lead them with a giant poster saying 'Hedonism is good! I'm a chemist so you better believe me!'


The Pope's already awesome, but this would be the next level. You can do it, Francis!
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Souriya Al-Assad
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:09 am

Valaran wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Two words: It's back.

Clue: Novorossiya


One word: lol

Clue: A word that means nothing in this context - or an unrealistic ideal.

Novorossiya has already given the Euromaidan Nazis heavy losses in the few on-going battles. A lost ideal? I do not think so. Furthermore, the Communist Party of Donetsk & Lugansk, is Novorossiya's first moreover sole political party on the official level just yet, part of the Donetsk Republic movement, which is its parliamentary incarnation.

Human Beings are humans, not property.Corporations, (Corporate Property), is property; it is not a human being.Once we understand these two simple concepts, we can move on as a society. - Shofercia | What I believe besides agreeing with the above: Corporations/Conglomerates are vile scum that need to be nationalised, centralised, collectivised as well as redistributed directly back to the masses themselves to control via popular committees. Vive le Communisme! Vive l'idéologie Mathaba!
Imperialism makes monsters out of Man. - Comrade Ernesto Che Guevara.
Allah, Souriya, Bashar w bas! - EPIC
Basically, this. Our form of gov..
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Postby Krajstali » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:10 am

Either that we'll be a part of Greater Serbia or New Yugoslavia.
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Insaeldor
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Postby Insaeldor » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:11 am

Valaran wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:The Pope would lead them with a giant poster saying 'Hedonism is good! I'm a chemist so you better believe me!'


The Pope's already awesome, but this would be the next level. You can do it, Francis!

C'mon peer pressure isn't that bad Franky!
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Valaran wrote:
One word: lol

Clue: A word that means nothing in this context - or an unrealistic ideal.

Novorossiya has already given the Euromaidan Nazis heavy losses in the few on-going battles. A lost ideal? I do not think so. Furthermore, the Communist Party of Donetsk & Lugansk, is Novorossiya's first moreover sole political party on the official level just yet, part of the Donetsk Republic movement, which is its parliamentary incarnation.
assumes it's the Rebels doing all work. Also assumes that when a party calls itself communist it must actually be communist.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:11 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Valaran wrote:
One word: lol

Clue: A word that means nothing in this context - or an unrealistic ideal.

Novorossiya has already given the Euromaidan Nazis heavy losses in the few on-going battles. A lost ideal? I do not think so. Furthermore, the Communist Party of Donetsk & Lugansk, is Novorossiya's first moreover sole political party on the official level just yet, part of the Donetsk Republic movement, which is its parliamentary incarnation.


Novorossiya exists solely because it's being propped up by Russia, the moment that aid disappears so will Novorossiya. Also, is this the same Communist Party that wasn't allowed to participate in the elections? I remember UMN saying something about that.
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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:12 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Valaran wrote:
One word: lol

Clue: A word that means nothing in this context - or an unrealistic ideal.

Novorossiya has already given the Euromaidan Nazis heavy losses in the few on-going battles. A lost ideal? I do not think so. Furthermore, the Communist Party of Donetsk & Lugansk, is Novorossiya's first moreover sole political party on the official level just yet, part of the Donetsk Republic movement, which is its parliamentary incarnation.



Because calling them Fascists wasn't insulting them enough apparently.... Godwin's law had to be appeased I suppose.

Though these 'victories' look rather like the rebels losing territory, even with Russian help.
I used to run an alliance, and a region. Not that it matters now.
Archeuland and Baughistan wrote:"I don't always nice, but when I do, I build it up." Valaran
Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
Zoboyizakoplayoklot wrote:Val: NS's resident mindless zombie
Planita wrote:you just set the OP on fire

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Souriya Al-Assad
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:12 am

Insaeldor wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Two words: It's back.

Clue: Novorossiya


So some backassward breakaway state in what is basicly Europes ghetto is the next Soviet Union? Or are you imply that the RF is new Soviet Union?

Let's break this down real quick

Supporting revolution in Ukraine=/= supporting revolution in France.

You've basicly constructed this idea in a fantasy land it it be real nice of you to join us in logic land.


If Novorossiya wins, its a different story now is it?

Yes, the RF can become the USSR again. The more NATO antagonises it & accuses it of committing transgressions within its own borders, whilst NATO also pours more backing for Nazis already documented for committing harrowing crimes against Novorossiya, the likelier Putin will just reproclaim the USSR to fight back.

To quote Putin himself,

(Image)

If you press the spring too hard, it will snap back. You must always remember this.

Human Beings are humans, not property.Corporations, (Corporate Property), is property; it is not a human being.Once we understand these two simple concepts, we can move on as a society. - Shofercia | What I believe besides agreeing with the above: Corporations/Conglomerates are vile scum that need to be nationalised, centralised, collectivised as well as redistributed directly back to the masses themselves to control via popular committees. Vive le Communisme! Vive l'idéologie Mathaba!
Imperialism makes monsters out of Man. - Comrade Ernesto Che Guevara.
Allah, Souriya, Bashar w bas! - EPIC
Basically, this. Our form of gov..
NS wars: 1/1/1/1.
USSR/Yugo HDIs 1992 - Haters are going to hate
EPIC 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Hezbollah Compass TRUTH

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Sebastianbourg
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Postby Sebastianbourg » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:13 am

Valaran wrote:
Sebastianbourg wrote:The Pope would lead them with a giant poster saying 'Hedonism is good! I'm a chemist so you better believe me!'


The Pope's already awesome, but this would be the next level. You can do it, Francis!

Image

Edit: I messed it up when trying to edit it.
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Souriya Al-Assad
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Postby Souriya Al-Assad » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:14 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Souriya Al-Assad wrote:Novorossiya has already given the Euromaidan Nazis heavy losses in the few on-going battles. A lost ideal? I do not think so. Furthermore, the Communist Party of Donetsk & Lugansk, is Novorossiya's first moreover sole political party on the official level just yet, part of the Donetsk Republic movement, which is its parliamentary incarnation.


Novorossiya exists solely because it's being propped up by Russia, the moment that aid disappears so will Novorossiya. Also, is this the same Communist Party that wasn't allowed to participate in the elections? I remember UMN saying something about that.

There was some error during registration, however it ran nonetheless through the Donetsk Republic coalition movement.

It is also the primary political force behind Zarchkarchenko.

Human Beings are humans, not property.Corporations, (Corporate Property), is property; it is not a human being.Once we understand these two simple concepts, we can move on as a society. - Shofercia | What I believe besides agreeing with the above: Corporations/Conglomerates are vile scum that need to be nationalised, centralised, collectivised as well as redistributed directly back to the masses themselves to control via popular committees. Vive le Communisme! Vive l'idéologie Mathaba!
Imperialism makes monsters out of Man. - Comrade Ernesto Che Guevara.
Allah, Souriya, Bashar w bas! - EPIC
Basically, this. Our form of gov..
NS wars: 1/1/1/1.
USSR/Yugo HDIs 1992 - Haters are going to hate
EPIC 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Hezbollah Compass TRUTH

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Valaran
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Postby Valaran » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:14 am

Souriya Al-Assad wrote:
Insaeldor wrote:
So some backassward breakaway state in what is basicly Europes ghetto is the next Soviet Union? Or are you imply that the RF is new Soviet Union?

Let's break this down real quick

Supporting revolution in Ukraine=/= supporting revolution in France.

You've basicly constructed this idea in a fantasy land it it be real nice of you to join us in logic land.


If Novorossiya wins, its a different story now is it?

Yes, the RF can become the USSR again. The more NATO antagonises it & accuses it of committing transgressions within its own borders, whilst NATO also pours more backing for Nazis already documented for committing harrowing crimes against Novorossiya, the likelier Putin will just reproclaim the USSR to fight back.

To quote Putin himself,

(Image)

If you press the spring too hard, it will snap back. You must always remember this.


Oh I'm not questioning Putin's desire to push back. i'm questioning his ability to influence anything more than 100 km (which is pushing it anyway) from his borders in any meaningful capacity outside of Central Asia.
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Valaran wrote:To be fair though.... I was judging on coolness factor, the most important criteria in any war.
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Postby Huda » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:15 am

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