Cleaveland Officer Shoots A 12 YEAR OLD

[Rizoshia]

Maybe he shouldn't have been waving an extremely realistic BB gun around in a highly populated area.

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[Big Jim P]

Maybe he shouldn't have been waving an extremely realistic handgun around in a highly populated area.

Of course not. Still, people do stupid things.

[Norstal]

Maybe he shouldn't have been waving an extremely realistic handgun around in a highly populated area.

Ohio is an open-carry state. Anyone should be able to wave around a realistic handgun because it's legal to do so.

[Big Jim P]

Maybe he shouldn't have been waving an extremely realistic handgun around in a highly populated area.

Ohio is an open-carry state. Anyone should be able to wave around a realistic handgun because it's legal to do so.

No, they should be able to carry one, not wave it around.

[Eastern Equestria]

Maybe he shouldn't have been waving an extremely realistic handgun around in a highly populated area.

Ohio is an open-carry state. Anyone should be able to wave around a realistic handgun because it's legal to do so.

Anyone in Ohio can be in possession of a handgun in public, but that doesn't give them the right to brandish it about and intimidate people.

[Rizoshia]

Maybe he shouldn't have been waving an extremely realistic handgun around in a highly populated area.

Ohio is an open-carry state. Anyone should be able to wave around a realistic handgun because it's legal to do so.

Ohio is a traditional open-carry state. The open-carry of firearms by those who legally possess the firearm is a legal activity in Ohio with or without a license. While legal, the practice is not common in urban areas and often results in police responding. Furthermore, a loaded handgun in a motor vehicle regardless of whether or not it is concealed.

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1) In a closed package, box, or case;

(2) In a compartment that can be reached only by leaving the vehicle;

(3) In plain sight and secured in a rack or holder made for the purpose;

(4) If the firearm is at least twenty-four inches in overall length as measured from the muzzle to the part of the stock furthest from the muzzle and if the barrel is at least eighteen inches in length, either in plain sight with the action open or the weapon stripped, or, if the firearm is of a type on which the action will not stay open or which cannot easily be stripped, in plain sight.

He wasn't performing the Open Carry law correctly in any way. He was waving it around and skipping la de da. Not literally skipping but the point stands.

[Ereria]

If you know anything about the case, you would know the officer was in the full right in this case. The police car was driving upto the kid while the passenger told him to put his hand up. Like a retard, the kid instead tried to pull the gun. The officers which still was getting out of the car, panicked as fuck and drew their weapons and shot the kid.

The officers did exactly as they should. Stop being cunts against police when they do their job.

[Rizoshia]

If you know anything about the case, you would know the officer was in the full right in this case. The police car was driving upto the kid while the passenger told him to put his hand up. Like a retard, the kid instead tried to pull the gun. The officers which still was getting out of the car, panicked as fuck and drew their weapons and shot the kid.

The officers did exactly as they should. Stop being cunts against police when they do their job.

Unfortunately the emotions of people who immediately link these things to race crimes drown out the reasonable people.

[Big Jim P]

Ohio is an open-carry state. Anyone should be able to wave around a realistic handgun because it's legal to do so.

Ohio is a traditional open-carry state. The open-carry of firearms by those who legally possess the firearm is a legal activity in Ohio with or without a license. While legal, the practice is not common in urban areas and often results in police responding. Furthermore, a loaded handgun in a motor vehicle regardless of whether or not it is concealed.

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Also listed on the page:

1) In a closed package, box, or case;

(2) In a compartment that can be reached only by leaving the vehicle;

(3) In plain sight and secured in a rack or holder made for the purpose;

(4) If the firearm is at least twenty-four inches in overall length as measured from the muzzle to the part of the stock furthest from the muzzle and if the barrel is at least eighteen inches in length, either in plain sight with the action open or the weapon stripped, or, if the firearm is of a type on which the action will not stay open or which cannot easily be stripped, in plain sight.

He wasn't performing the Open Carry law correctly in any way. He was waving it around and skipping la de da. Not literally skipping but the point stands.

Even if real open carry (handgun loaded in a holster on his person) were legal he would still be in the wrong for 1: being under age for legally carrying and 2: for brandishing it.

[Norstal]

Ohio is an open-carry state. Anyone should be able to wave around a realistic handgun because it's legal to do so.

Ohio is a traditional open-carry state. The open-carry of firearms by those who legally possess the firearm is a legal activity in Ohio with or without a license. While legal, the practice is not common in urban areas and often results in police responding. Furthermore, a loaded handgun in a motor vehicle regardless of whether or not it is concealed.

Source

Also listed on the page:

1) In a closed package, box, or case;

(2) In a compartment that can be reached only by leaving the vehicle;

(3) In plain sight and secured in a rack or holder made for the purpose;

(4) If the firearm is at least twenty-four inches in overall length as measured from the muzzle to the part of the stock furthest from the muzzle and if the barrel is at least eighteen inches in length, either in plain sight with the action open or the weapon stripped, or, if the firearm is of a type on which the action will not stay open or which cannot easily be stripped, in plain sight.

He wasn't performing the Open Carry law correctly in any way. He was waving it around and skipping la de da. Not literally skipping but the point stands.

Fair enough. I'm not familiar with open-carry procedures.

[Rizoshia]

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He wasn't performing the Open Carry law correctly in any way. He was waving it around and skipping la de da. Not literally skipping but the point stands.

Even if real open carry (handgun loaded in a holster on his person) were legal he would still be in the wrong for 1: being under age for legally carrying and 2: for brandishing it.

Mhmm, the whole 12 year old possibly brandishing a gun thing was a pretty bad strike again'st him.

[Big Jim P]

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He wasn't performing the Open Carry law correctly in any way. He was waving it around and skipping la de da. Not literally skipping but the point stands.

Fair enough. I'm not familiar with open-carry procedures.

They vary by state.

[Digital Planets]

I support the police officers in this nation. Cops go through all kinds of training and background checks. There is not a crusade against blacks, 12-year olds, or anyone else in this nation. There is obviously a reason why this happened, and I look forward to hearing about it.

That is, unless you're in the KKK.

[Furry Alairia and Algeria]

My RIA TACT 2011 (which should be heavier than the 1911 that the previously pictured airsoft gun is based on, because my RIA has a full length dust cover/rail and no lightening cuts on the slide) weighs less than 3 pounds unloaded. What crevice did you pull that 10-25 pound figure from?

Indeed. I have never heard of any personal firearm (let alone handgun) that weighs 25 lbs. Admittedly some rifles weigh-in around 13 pounds, but a handgun?

Someones ignorance is showing.

Doesn't a handgun weight at most 11 pounds? I'm not so experienced at guns, but I've heard that near the firing range.

[Big Jim P]

Indeed. I have never heard of any personal firearm (let alone handgun) that weighs 25 lbs. Admittedly some rifles weigh-in around 13 pounds, but a handgun?

Someones ignorance is showing.

Doesn't a handgun weight at most 11 pounds? I'm not so experienced at guns, but I've heard that near the firing range.

Heaviest I have heard of weighs about 6 pounds.

[Greed and Death]

I know we shouldn't judge you by your nation, since it may not represent your real views, but come on... Your nation would profit off this sort of thing.

RL gun manufacturers are currently profiting from lighter and smaller handguns, not heavier and larger one, due in large part to the proliferation of legalizing concealed carry.

Small light Handguns are better for self defense. By the time most people can upholster and aim a desert eagle, I could have sank 3 shots with my 9mm.

Large handguns are most useful in war where you will need stopping an penetrating power and for woodland situations where you need to protect yourself from a large animal.

[United Marxist Nations]

Doesn't a handgun weight at most 11 pounds? I'm not so experienced at guns, but I've heard that near the firing range.

Heaviest I have heard of weighs about 6 pounds.

1911 (the type the toy was modeled on) weighs 2.44 lbs according to wiki. Easily lift-able by a twelve year old.

[Greed and Death]

Ohio is an open-carry state. Anyone should be able to wave around a realistic handgun because it's legal to do so.

No, they should be able to carry one, not wave it around.

and they should not reach for it when the cops tell you to get down on the ground and put your hands on your head.

[Greed and Death]

Heaviest I have heard of weighs about 6 pounds.

1911 (the type the toy was modeled on) weighs 2.44 lbs according to wiki. Easily lift-able by a twelve year old.

Maybe if you pack this one.
http://thechive.com/2013/01/18/this-is- ... -9-photos/

[Big Jim P]

No, they should be able to carry one, not wave it around.

and they should not reach for it when the cops tell you to get down on the ground and put your hands on your head.

True. Stupidity is its own reward.

1911 (the type the toy was modeled on) weighs 2.44 lbs according to wiki. Easily lift-able by a twelve year old.

Maybe if you pack this one.
http://thechive.com/2013/01/18/this-is- ... -9-photos/

Damn!

[Eastern Equestria]

1911 (the type the toy was modeled on) weighs 2.44 lbs according to wiki. Easily lift-able by a twelve year old.

Maybe if you pack this one.
http://thechive.com/2013/01/18/this-is- ... -9-photos/

Holy shit. That thing's impracticality is matched only by it's sheer awesomeness.

[Roski]

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In my opinion, THIS IS BULLSHIT! The kid was fucking innnocent, and from what the data we have right now, he hasn't done anything, although evidence could be shown that I am wrong. I honestly am grateful that I live in Canada, where non of this shit happens. I am not stating every cop in the USA is bad, far from it, I am just stating that I feel more safer as an African and a Black person here in Canada, as opposed to the United States.

Any thoughts NSG?

PS: I am sorry if their is another thread about it, I didn't know. If you are referring to the Ferguson thread, it talks about Ferguson, not Cleaveland. Also, sorry for the spam, I deleted it very quickly so their is only one thread.

I don't know, clearly, this child was posing a percieved threat...

But, the police could have acted less... rashly, you know, tazers, the whole deal, however, their quick thinking potentially saved someones life (I'm going to use potentially, under the assumption that I didn't know the gun was fake, but I do now). However, both cops are on administrative leave, so obviously at least minor action has been done thus far.

[Krazakistan]

I've noticed that there have been many people claiming that it is easy to tell the difference between a realistic airsoft pistol (like the one in question), and a real pistol. Let me tell you from years of experience of airsofting and handling firearms, you will not be able to tell the difference between the two unless you are literally looking down the barrel. With realistic airsoft pistols like the one in question, they look exactly like real firearms aesthetically.






What if I told you the one on the top was the airsoft pistol? See? Not so easy to tell the difference, isn't it? Unless you are looking down the barrel and see the copper 6mm inner barrel of the airsoft pistol (which is hard to see at distance, especially with the airsoft pistol in question), you will have a damn hard time at determining that it is not a real firearm.

While the shooting is tragic, the kid died of his own stupidity. What the hell did you think was going to happen when you wave around a realistic airsoft pistol? That the cops, who were not told that it was fake, would walk up to you and ask you kindly to put it away? Fuck no. Cops see a firearm, even if it is being handled by a 12-year old child, they are going to treat you as a life-endangering threat to themselves and people around them. The shooting was justified. Period. They told the child to get on the ground. They told the child to put his hands on his head. They gave him warnings. The child ignored them, reached for the pistol, and was shot. No way you can say that the shooting wasn't justified.

[Oil exporting People]

But, the police could have acted less... rashly, you know, tazers, the whole deal, however, their quick thinking potentially saved someones life (I'm going to use potentially, under the assumption that I didn't know the gun was fake, but I do now). However, both cops are on administrative leave, so obviously at least minor action has been done thus far.

I don't know about you, but I don't think its a sound idea to use a non-lethal taser when you think somebody is pulling a pistol on you.

[Gun Manufacturers]

My RIA TACT 2011 (which should be heavier than the 1911 that the previously pictured airsoft gun is based on, because my RIA has a full length dust cover/rail and no lightening cuts on the slide) weighs less than 3 pounds unloaded. What crevice did you pull that 10-25 pound figure from?

I have a Llama Maxi I 45/lf with laser scope and a Kruger handgun with magazine and has live rounds.

Those fucking things are heavy as hell even on my dominant hand.

And the kid was clearly spinning the toy gun in his hand.

I can't fucking do that with my guns and I'm a 25 year old grown man.

Unless people here are suggesting that a 12 year old can do that with a live, metal weapon I don't think anyone has a reason to believe it wasn't a toy gun and that the officer "Was scurred".

Although it's probably heavy because he modded it.

A laser scope (he probably means a laser sight) won't make a pistol 10-25 pounds. Many rifles don't even weigh that much.