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What is your opinion of the twin bombing?

We need boots on the ground, or else this won't stop!
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16%
We need military advisors there ASAP. The Nigerians cannot act alone on this.
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38%
We must keep a neutral stance. interfering is too much.
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24%
I don't care.
4
8%
LET BOKO HARAM TAKE OVER! PRAISE BOKO HARAM! DEATH TO NIGERIA!
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14%
 
Total votes : 50

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The True Khilafah
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Postby The True Khilafah » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:33 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
The True Khilafah wrote:What are you even talking about?

No, what are YOU talking about?!
You condemn Capitalism, so that makes you a leftist, but since you don't know what are you saying and I assume you are under 16, I will drop it.

I am a leftist, but that doesn't make me a Marxian Socialist. Marx has some very valid criticisms of the capitalist mode of production, but I disagree with his revolutionary ideology as it ignores people's religious and ethnic differences. I am a National Socialist (NOT the fake Nazi kind) and I am an Islamist. Islamic Socialism has spurred wonderful movements like Gaddafi's Jamahiriya, Ba'athism which has ruled Syria for decades, Abdel Nasser's philosophy, and Antun Saadeh's Syrian Social-Nationalist movement. I align with these people, but I also stay true to Islam as Islamism goes hand-in-hand with National Socialist philosophy and National Socialist-inspired ideologies.

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The True Khilafah
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Postby The True Khilafah » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:36 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
The True Khilafah wrote:NATO is a criminal organization which serves the international globalist agenda. What happens is Nigeria is not the west's business.


:rofl:

I haven't seen this kind of disinformation, inaccuracies and Blindly-Pro-Russian support in one post, since I left the comment section in RT's YouTube channel

How the hell are you making these baseless assumptions about my political affiliation?

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Emerald-Springs
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Postby Emerald-Springs » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:37 pm

The True Khilafah wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:No, what are YOU talking about?!
You condemn Capitalism, so that makes you a leftist, but since you don't know what are you saying and I assume you are under 16, I will drop it.

I am a leftist, but that doesn't make me a Marxian Socialist. Marx has some very valid criticisms of the capitalist mode of production, but I disagree with his revolutionary ideology as it ignores people's religious and ethnic differences. I am a National Socialist (NOT the fake Nazi kind) and I am an Islamist. Islamic Socialism has spurred wonderful movements like Gaddafi's Jamahiriya, Ba'athism which has ruled Syria for decades, Abdel Nasser's philosophy, and Antun Saadeh's Syrian Social-Nationalist movement. I align with these people, but I also stay true to Islam as Islamism goes hand-in-hand with National Socialist philosophy and
National Socialist-inspired ideologies.


I think that religious socialism has merit. But Ghadaffi and the Ba'athists were horrid régimes that were personalist and patrimonial more than they adhered to or effectively implemented any ideology. Not to mention that Ba'athism is secularist, not Islamic.

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Lydenburg
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Postby Lydenburg » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:42 pm

For every thirty killed by Muslim extremists, another thirty die in tribal massacres committed by Nigeria's animist and Christian population. One village was kidnapping migrant workers, starving them for weeks before killing them off in ritual sacrifices, and cannibalising them. That's nothing new.

The whole country is a mess. I've had colleagues that go up to Lagos every once in a while. They're paranoid about being kidnapped by cults and held for ransom.

Ek bly in Australie nou, maar Afrika sal altyd in my hart wees. Maak nie saak wat gebeur nie, ek is trots om te kan sê ek is 'n kind van hierdie ingewikkelde soms wrede kontinent. Mis jou altyd my Suid-Afrika, hier met n seer hart al die pad van Melbourne af!


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Kalifati Arab shqiptar
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:42 pm

The True Khilafah wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:No, what are YOU talking about?!
You condemn Capitalism, so that makes you a leftist, but since you don't know what are you saying and I assume you are under 16, I will drop it.

I am a leftist, but that doesn't make me a Marxian Socialist. Marx has some very valid criticisms of the capitalist mode of production, but I disagree with his revolutionary ideology as it ignores people's religious and ethnic differences. I am a National Socialist (NOT the fake Nazi kind) and I am an Islamist. Islamic Socialism has spurred wonderful movements like Gaddafi's Jamahiriya, Ba'athism which has ruled Syria for decades, Abdel Nasser's philosophy, and Antun Saadeh's Syrian Social-Nationalist movement. I align with these people, but I also stay true to Islam as Islamism goes hand-in-hand with National Socialist philosophy and National Socialist-inspired ideologies.

Don't worry kiddo, it will pass. Your brain will evolve and someday you will come here and be ashamed of yourself and your childish "political views"
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Condunum
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Postby Condunum » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:49 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
The True Khilafah wrote:I am a leftist, but that doesn't make me a Marxian Socialist. Marx has some very valid criticisms of the capitalist mode of production, but I disagree with his revolutionary ideology as it ignores people's religious and ethnic differences. I am a National Socialist (NOT the fake Nazi kind) and I am an Islamist. Islamic Socialism has spurred wonderful movements like Gaddafi's Jamahiriya, Ba'athism which has ruled Syria for decades, Abdel Nasser's philosophy, and Antun Saadeh's Syrian Social-Nationalist movement. I align with these people, but I also stay true to Islam as Islamism goes hand-in-hand with National Socialist philosophy and National Socialist-inspired ideologies.

Don't worry kiddo, it will pass. Your brain will evolve and someday you will come here and be ashamed of yourself and your childish "political views"

>implying you have to be young to have these views

This is incredibly condescending.
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Olerand
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Postby Olerand » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:01 pm

The True Khilafah wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:No, what are YOU talking about?!
You condemn Capitalism, so that makes you a leftist, but since you don't know what are you saying and I assume you are under 16, I will drop it.

I am a leftist, but that doesn't make me a Marxian Socialist. Marx has some very valid criticisms of the capitalist mode of production, but I disagree with his revolutionary ideology as it ignores people's religious and ethnic differences. I am a National Socialist (NOT the fake Nazi kind) and I am an Islamist. Islamic Socialism has spurred wonderful movements like Gaddafi's Jamahiriya, Ba'athism which has ruled Syria for decades, Abdel Nasser's philosophy, and Antun Saadeh's Syrian Social-Nationalist movement. I align with these people, but I also stay true to Islam as Islamism goes hand-in-hand with National Socialist philosophy and National Socialist-inspired ideologies.

Islamism, and National-Socialism(Nazism) are both most definitely not leftist ideologies.
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The Sotoan Union
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:11 pm

The Nigerian government is just fucked up. We can't just throw money at them or even send just a few advisers to fix things. The government is incredibly corrupt and the military is responsible for numerous atrocities. A lot more is needed to actually change things there.

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Lleu llaw Gyffes
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Postby Lleu llaw Gyffes » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:31 pm

The two girls dressed in full hijabs entered the busy marketplace and detonated their explosives,

Ban the hijab. It won't stop terrorism, but it will make it more difficult.

White nations invading Foreignistan to impose Democracy failed in Afghanistan and Iraq. We should set up and supply local militias.

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District XIV
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Postby District XIV » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:34 pm

Here's a non-FOX source, btw: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-30194149

Not much more to say than this is unfortunate.
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Lydenburg
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Postby Lydenburg » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:35 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:The Nigerian government is just fucked up. We can't just throw money at them or even send just a few advisers to fix things. The government is incredibly corrupt and the military is responsible for numerous atrocities. A lot more is needed to actually change things there.


Well, congrats. You have just described 99% of sub-Saharan Africa.

What else can possibly be done?

Ek bly in Australie nou, maar Afrika sal altyd in my hart wees. Maak nie saak wat gebeur nie, ek is trots om te kan sê ek is 'n kind van hierdie ingewikkelde soms wrede kontinent. Mis jou altyd my Suid-Afrika, hier met n seer hart al die pad van Melbourne af!


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Neo Rome Republic
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:36 pm

Islamists blowing themselves up. What else is new?
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Postby Benuty » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:38 pm

NEO Rome Republic wrote:Islamists blowing themselves up. What else is new?

Some fresh material perhaps?
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Postby Lydenburg » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:39 pm

NEO Rome Republic wrote:Islamists blowing themselves up. What else is new?


Two attractive young ladies just won the rights to be one of 72 virgins, apparently.

Another part of Islam I'll never understand - what do women like these two get out of it?

Ek bly in Australie nou, maar Afrika sal altyd in my hart wees. Maak nie saak wat gebeur nie, ek is trots om te kan sê ek is 'n kind van hierdie ingewikkelde soms wrede kontinent. Mis jou altyd my Suid-Afrika, hier met n seer hart al die pad van Melbourne af!


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Postby The Sotoan Union » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:40 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:The Nigerian government is just fucked up. We can't just throw money at them or even send just a few advisers to fix things. The government is incredibly corrupt and the military is responsible for numerous atrocities. A lot more is needed to actually change things there.


Well, congrats. You have just described 99% of sub-Saharan Africa.

What else can possibly be done?

UN mission? It's really bad in Nigeria, and Nigeria is more significant in many ways than the rest of its neighbors. So these problems can;t just be ignored.

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:40 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Islamists blowing themselves up. What else is new?


Two attractive young ladies just won the rights to be one of 72 virgins, apparently.

Another part of Islam I'll never understand - what do women like these two get out of it?

They've been brainwashed to fight for a group of savages. I don't think there is much rationality to be found in that department.
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This nation DOES(for most part) represent my OOC views.
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"An empty mind is a mind without a filter, the mind of a gullible fool. A closed mind is the mind unwilling to look at the reality outside its bubble. An open mind is one that is cautious, flexible yet balanced; looking at both the reality and the possibility."
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The Sotoan Union
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:44 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Islamists blowing themselves up. What else is new?


Two attractive young ladies just won the rights to be one of 72 virgins, apparently.

Another part of Islam I'll never understand - what do women like these two get out of it?

There's really a lot of debate in exactly what the Koran is talking about.

At it's most basic level, The Koran mentions the Houri, who are equal aged companions that are pure beings. I'm sure you can interpret it into being companions that you would desire, so maybe males if you were a woman.

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Kalifati Arab shqiptar
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Tue Nov 25, 2014 7:50 pm

Condunum wrote:
Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:Don't worry kiddo, it will pass. Your brain will evolve and someday you will come here and be ashamed of yourself and your childish "political views"

>implying you have to be young to have these views

This is incredibly condescending.


He is leftist and a Nazi, at the same time. I don't think he knows the meaning of those words either.

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Postby Euroslavia » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:47 pm

Lleu llaw Gyffes wrote:
The two girls dressed in full hijabs entered the busy marketplace and detonated their explosives,

Ban the hijab. It won't stop terrorism, but it will make it more difficult.

White nations invading Foreignistan to impose Democracy failed in Afghanistan and Iraq. We should set up and supply local militias.


Take a step further and force mandatory nudity. :p
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Postby New Chalcedon » Tue Nov 25, 2014 8:58 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:
The True Khilafah wrote:What are you even talking about?

No, what are YOU talking about?!
You condemn Capitalism, so that makes you a leftist, but since you don't know what are you saying and I assume you are under 16, I will drop it.


A minor correction: Some Rightists have condemned capitalism, too.
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Postby United States Kingdom » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:24 pm

Saiwania wrote:
The True Khilafah wrote:What happens is Nigeria is not the west's business.


On the contrary, I can see it being in the best interests of majority Christian/secular superpowers such as the US, Russia, and China to ensure that Nigeria's southern portion wins out over the Islamic northern portion. I don't see why a proxy war can't be started, countries around the world should feel free to send arms/money to the side they support until one finally wins out and Nigeria is stabilized.


It would be better for the African Union to control it instead of the powers you just listed.

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Postby United States Kingdom » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:26 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:The Nigerian government is just fucked up. We can't just throw money at them or even send just a few advisers to fix things. The government is incredibly corrupt and the military is responsible for numerous atrocities. A lot more is needed to actually change things there.


Well, congrats. You have just described 99% of sub-Saharan Africa.

What else can possibly be done?

The only possible exceptions are Rwanda, and Ghana. Other than that, Africa is growing, but it still pretty fucked up.

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Postby SuperFruitland » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:32 pm

Lydenburg wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:Islamists blowing themselves up. What else is new?


Two attractive young ladies just won the rights to be one of 72 virgins, apparently.

Another part of Islam I'll never understand - what do women like these two get out of it?


72 male virgins, maybe?

*nod*

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Postby Saiwania » Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:41 pm

United States Kingdom wrote:It would be better for the African Union to control it instead of the powers you just listed.


China would definitely want Nigeria's oil and minerals to import.
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:25 pm

Euroslavia wrote:
Lleu llaw Gyffes wrote:Ban the hijab. It won't stop terrorism, but it will make it more difficult.

White nations invading Foreignistan to impose Democracy failed in Afghanistan and Iraq. We should set up and supply local militias.


Take a step further and force mandatory nudity. :p

Surely the problems would go away if we enforce mandatory male gender.

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