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by Zottistan » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:07 pm

by Camelza » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:08 pm

by Distruzio » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:09 pm

by Skinia » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:09 pm
Distruzio wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:You've never struck me as a racist, Dis.
Oh im not. Im just not anti racism. Im pro racism. Id rather the racists be overt and hateful rather than subversive and sympathizing. Both are condescending but where one sees it as their cause to protect an arbitrary and sociological cobstruct the other sees it as their duty to save the disenfranchised from themselves.

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by Distruzio » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:11 pm

by Caribica » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:11 pm
Olerand wrote:Caribica wrote:You can be gay if you want, by all means legalize gay marriage, just don't force churches to host them or Christian buisnesses like bakers to cater to them
Pathetic. Businesses are not individuals, they don't have beliefs. Nor do their do their founders' beliefs allow them to refuse service based on race, gender, sexual identity/orientation, social status, socioeconomic class, nationality, origin, or ethnicity.
Except for in some American states. And apparently, maybe soon, Northern Ireland.

by Olivaero » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:11 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:Olerand wrote:Certain variations of academia, philosophy, and law disagree with me.
Social sciences are not hard sciences, and have no "truths". They vary, especially by culture and thinking.
Your society's permission. Simply that.
In America, you have the right, regardless of its positive or negative status, constitutionally to "bear arms".
You do not in France.
What in America is a violation of your 2nd Amendment, is simply the law in France.
As it relates to philosophy, "truths" are anything that are inherent. There is an inherent truth in say, all men have the ability to think.
So you only prove the subjectivity of positive rights and ability for them to be taken away. Yet you have yet to deny me the objectivity of negative rights.
I have a negative right to think whatever thought I want about you, as I have the will to do it, and while a law may influence that it cannot take away it's inherence.

by Fortschritte » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:11 pm

by Skinia » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:12 pm

by Camelza » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:12 pm
Distruzio wrote:Old Tyrannia wrote:You've never struck me as a racist, Dis.
Oh im not. Im just not anti racism. Im pro racism. Id rather the racists be overt and hateful rather than subversive and sympathizing. Both are condescending but where one sees it as their cause to protect an arbitrary and sociological cobstruct the other sees it as their duty to save the disenfranchised from themselves.

by Distruzio » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:12 pm
Skinia wrote:Distruzio wrote:
Oh im not. Im just not anti racism. Im pro racism. Id rather the racists be overt and hateful rather than subversive and sympathizing. Both are condescending but where one sees it as their cause to protect an arbitrary and sociological cobstruct the other sees it as their duty to save the disenfranchised from themselves.
If you're for racism, you're a racist.

by The Liberated Territories » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:12 pm
Skinia wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:
As it relates to philosophy, "truths" are anything that are inherent. There is an inherent truth in say, all men have the ability to think.
So you only prove the subjectivity of positive rights and ability for them to be taken away. Yet you have yet to deny me the objectivity of negative rights.
I have a negative right to think whatever thought I want about you, as I have the will to do it, and while a law may influence that it cannot take away it's inherence.
There's nothing objective about politics, ethics and aesthetics. All of them are placed of personal preference. Why should I derive my values from philosophical truths?

by Distruzio » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:13 pm

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by Distruzio » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:14 pm
Camelza wrote:Distruzio wrote:
Oh im not. Im just not anti racism. Im pro racism. Id rather the racists be overt and hateful rather than subversive and sympathizing. Both are condescending but where one sees it as their cause to protect an arbitrary and sociological cobstruct the other sees it as their duty to save the disenfranchised from themselves.
Claiming that you're pro-racism doesn't actually help your case of not being a racist. Just saying.

by Olerand » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:15 pm
Camelza wrote:Olerand wrote:Who? The Phalanges? They wren't Nazis either. Fascists, as inspired by Franco. Who else?
The Phalanges were actually modelled after the Nazi party;
I was the captain of the Lebanese football team and the president of the Lebanese Football federation. We went to the Olympic Games of 1936 in Berlin. And I saw then this discipline and order. And I said to myself: "Why can't we do the same thing in Lebanon?" So when we came back to Lebanon, we created this youth movement. When I was in Berlin then, Nazism did not have the reputation which it has now. Nazism? In every system in the world, you can find something good. But Nazism was not Nazism at all. The word came afterwards. In their system, I saw discipline. And we in the Middle East, we need discipline more than anything else.
-Gemayel(not the one you have in mind).
As for the other one? I had the National Social Syrian Party in mind, it was modelled after the NSDAP, but it has adopted baathism over the years.
Also the Nazis were fascists, to consider nazism as something else other than German-styled Fascism belongs to the sphere of semanticology.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever

by Distruzio » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:15 pm

by Conscentia » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:15 pm
The Liberated Territories wrote:I don't know, you tell me. As for me, I believe it creates goals or freedoms that are good for myself.
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by The Liberated Territories » Tue Nov 25, 2014 3:15 pm
Olivaero wrote:The Liberated Territories wrote:
As it relates to philosophy, "truths" are anything that are inherent. There is an inherent truth in say, all men have the ability to think.
So you only prove the subjectivity of positive rights and ability for them to be taken away. Yet you have yet to deny me the objectivity of negative rights.
I have a negative right to think whatever thought I want about you, as I have the will to do it, and while a law may influence that it cannot take away it's inherence.
you certainly have the abillity to do things no matter what the law says, if your well muscled and trained in combat you have the ability to beat some one who is neither of those things up just like you have the ability to think whatever you like do you also have the negative right to beat someone up because it's something you can do completely of your own volition?
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