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Postby Asyir » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:13 pm

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And the opinion of the Grand Jury... Imagine that.


Imagine that, the opinions of some random people... Damn, should i feel honored?

Those "random people" were presented the evidence. They said no indictment. Case closed.
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Postby Archeuland and Baughistan » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm

I'm just going to throw this out there that - I live within fifty miles of Ferguson - and honestly, I don't get why this is such a drama. It wouldn't be had the national media not gotten involved. They're having a ball now, though, since the riots are back on.

I actually need to go to bed. I'll be praying for the safety of Ferguson, and the local businesses (you all should as well!). See you all tomorrow. :)
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm

Stupid fucks, rioting for nothing.


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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm

The Seleucids wrote:
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And the opinion of the Grand Jury... Imagine that.


Imagine that, the opinions of some random people... Damn, should i feel honored?


"Random" people with more power then you hopefully will ever see.

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Postby The Social Justice Warrior » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm

Imperial--japan wrote:Cap as many rioters as possible.


real internet tough guy here.

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Postby Gauthier » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm

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Imperial--japan wrote:Cap as many rioters as possible.

Because killing people solves all are problems right?


Hey now, many of the protestors are black and as the lack of indictment proves blacks are always armed and dangerous even if their hands are empty. *nod nod*
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Postby Margno » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm

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Margno wrote:Stalking is illegal, and self defense is legal.

This is not Travyon Martin's case, this is Michael Brown.

I think it's America's case, and it's losing. Maybe it's time for a regime change.
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Postby Saiwania » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm

Margno wrote:So did Trayvon Martin. Didn't help him much.


I think Trayvon would've been helped to not have been out at night in the first place. Nothing good happens after 8 pm, it is an unnecessary risk.
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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm

Paddy O Fernature wrote:
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Please explain how justice was serverd. A person dead, the one who killed him got to walk off without a trial or anything. I don't know from what backwards country you're from but over here that isn't called justice.


It is when the shooting was justified.

Seriously, how is that so fucking hard for you to grasp.


Then let it be proven in a trial. (by combat preffered)

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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm

The Seleucids wrote:
Paddy O Fernature wrote:
And the opinion of the Grand Jury... Imagine that.


Imagine that, the opinions of some random people... Damn, should i feel honored?


The opinions based on facts and evidence which no one else here saw...

Unless of course you have eye witness reports, ballistic and forensic evidence you would like to share that proves otherwise?


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Postby Jinos » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:14 pm

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Evidence of what? We have audio evidence of the shooting, if you listen, DW shoots several times, then PAUSES for several seconds (presumably after MB stops) and he begins shooting again. We have physical evidence of a bullet hitting the back of his arm, and a bullet entering the top of his head. That's pretty damned good if I do say so.

No, that's basing your entire opinion on a pause.
Which is...oh, what's the word...It's kind of like 'pretty damned good' only instead of 'good' at the end there we use...Oh yeah, 'little'. The word I was thinking of was 'little'.


You would think that Wilson might say something like "Hands up" or "Down on the Ground" or even "Stop" before he gunned down Brown wouldn't you?

But no, he just silently shoots Brown to death.
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Postby Asyir » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:15 pm

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Asyir wrote:My kids won't get killed by cops. They follow the laws.


I'm sorry for your kids having a boring life.

You preach for justice but say following the law is boring.

Logic.
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Postby Imperial--japan » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:15 pm

Insaeldor wrote:
Imperial--japan wrote:Cap as many rioters as possible.

Because killing people solves all are problems right?

For the most part.
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Postby The Social Justice Warrior » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:15 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:Stupid fucks, rioting for nothing.


yeah, i'm sure you assume murder is nothing when the innocent soul left bleeding on the concrete is black.

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The Seleucids (Ancient)
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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:15 pm

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Nope, you 11 people just have an ideal of justice that is backwards, inhumain and sick.

Backwards? What do you know about justice? Jack shit that's what.

You don't honestly believe that do you?


Yes, backwards. Yes i know alot about justice. And yes, i bleive in that.

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Postby The balkens » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:15 pm

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i am not even going to try with you anymore.

There is evidence that there was a struggle.


The struggle at the car is irrelevant. I see no reason why people should put such significance on whether Brown reached for Wilson's gun, or anything else that occurred there.

All that matters is that Brown ran, and while he was running Wilson shot at him. How else do you explain how Brown ran 100ft from Wilson's patrol car?


Because he ran suddenly voids any crime that he did? Like strong arm robbery, assaulting a police officer?

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Postby The Social Justice Warrior » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:16 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Margno wrote:So did Trayvon Martin. Didn't help him much.


I think Trayvon would've been helped to not have been out at night in the first place. Nothing good happens after 8 pm, it is an unnecessary risk.


only if you're black carrying iced tea and skittles, clearly.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:16 pm

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I feel like this deserves a shameless bump to the next page so maybe more people will see your excellent come-back!


Even more shameless to scrabble for any pretense to the point assuming Hispanic = Black. Plz try agn.


Actually, in the U.S., you are more likely to be racially profiled if you seem Latino, too.
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Postby Margno » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:16 pm

Asyir wrote:
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Imagine that, the opinions of some random people... Damn, should i feel honored?

Those "random people" were presented the evidence. They said no indictment. Case closed.

Not good enough for me. I want to see the evidence. No more goddamn secrecy to protect the cops when they murder someone for no goddamn reason.
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Postby West Angola » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:16 pm

Jinos wrote:The struggle at the car is irrelevant. I see no reason why people should put such significance on whether Brown reached for Wilson's gun, or anything else that occurred there.

All that matters is that Brown ran, and while he was running Wilson shot at him. How else do you explain how Brown ran 100ft from Wilson's patrol car?

That Brown ran was not really up for debate, the question was whether he turned back and charged at Wilson, and if Wilson shot him after that point.
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Postby Tarsonis Survivors » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:16 pm

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http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58472 ... l.html.csp


Damn, how does it feel to be wrong?


Hispanic cop. Zimmerman was Hispanic too. Thanks for you playing.



Oh Zimmerman is hispanic now? Funny all the news said he was white.

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Postby The Social Justice Warrior » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:16 pm

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Jinos wrote:
The struggle at the car is irrelevant. I see no reason why people should put such significance on whether Brown reached for Wilson's gun, or anything else that occurred there.

All that matters is that Brown ran, and while he was running Wilson shot at him. How else do you explain how Brown ran 100ft from Wilson's patrol car?


Because he ran suddenly voids any crime that he did?


no, but it does mean that the officer shouldn't have the right to shoot at him anymore seeing as he is no longer presenting a clear and present danger to his life.

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Postby Paddy O Fernature » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:16 pm

Asyir wrote:
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I'm sorry for your kids having a boring life.

You preach for justice but say following the law is boring.

Logic.


I don't think he has any at this point.

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Postby The Seleucids (Ancient) » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:17 pm

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Me to, but then with people like you around. I already see cops killing random people and walking of free becouse you know, nobody cares about justice.


Tell me, do you get lonely in that imaginary world you live in?


Tell me, you get hungry, scared or just sick in that backwards country you live in?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Nov 24, 2014 9:17 pm

Tarsonis Survivors wrote:
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Hispanic cop. Zimmerman was Hispanic too. Thanks for you playing.



Oh Zimmerman is hispanic now? Funny all the news said he was white.


AFAIK, Zimmerman was white, not Hispanic.

EDIT: according to this, he's both. white and Hispanic.
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