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Postby Oil exporting People » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:31 pm

A rather touching story

A group of black Ferguson residents armed with AR-15s and other weapons stood guard around a Conoco station, owned by a white man, and saved it from being burned after looters began wreaking havoc on November 24.

Because of the armed citizens, the Conoco was not only spared, but the owner did not even have to board up the station's windows.

According to Reuters, one of the men guarding the station was 37-year-old "Derrick Jordan--'Stretch,' as his friends call him." He arrived in front of the Conoco, pulled out an AR-15, and stood guard at the store's entrance. He was joined by three other black residents on November 25--all of whom had "pistols tucked into their waistbands" and all of whom took up positions around the Conoco.

Other armed black men joined Jordan and the others from time to time to help keep guard. They protected not only the building, but also citizens who pulled up to get gas.
Store owner Doug Merello said, "We would have been burned to the ground many times over if it weren't for them."

Jordan and the others said they did not get paid to stand guard. Rather, they did it because Merello had "employed many of them over the years and treats them with respect."
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Postby DnalweN acilbupeR » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:32 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:A rather touching story

A group of black Ferguson residents armed with AR-15s and other weapons stood guard around a Conoco station, owned by a white man, and saved it from being burned after looters began wreaking havoc on November 24.

Because of the armed citizens, the Conoco was not only spared, but the owner did not even have to board up the station's windows.

According to Reuters, one of the men guarding the station was 37-year-old "Derrick Jordan--'Stretch,' as his friends call him." He arrived in front of the Conoco, pulled out an AR-15, and stood guard at the store's entrance. He was joined by three other black residents on November 25--all of whom had "pistols tucked into their waistbands" and all of whom took up positions around the Conoco.

Other armed black men joined Jordan and the others from time to time to help keep guard. They protected not only the building, but also citizens who pulled up to get gas.
Store owner Doug Merello said, "We would have been burned to the ground many times over if it weren't for them."

Jordan and the others said they did not get paid to stand guard. Rather, they did it because Merello had "employed many of them over the years and treats them with respect."


pfft, obviously a case of the Stockholm syndrome.

or uncle tom.
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Postby Maineiacs » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:35 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:A rather touching story

A group of black Ferguson residents armed with AR-15s and other weapons stood guard around a Conoco station, owned by a white man, and saved it from being burned after looters began wreaking havoc on November 24.

Because of the armed citizens, the Conoco was not only spared, but the owner did not even have to board up the station's windows.

According to Reuters, one of the men guarding the station was 37-year-old "Derrick Jordan--'Stretch,' as his friends call him." He arrived in front of the Conoco, pulled out an AR-15, and stood guard at the store's entrance. He was joined by three other black residents on November 25--all of whom had "pistols tucked into their waistbands" and all of whom took up positions around the Conoco.

Other armed black men joined Jordan and the others from time to time to help keep guard. They protected not only the building, but also citizens who pulled up to get gas.
Store owner Doug Merello said, "We would have been burned to the ground many times over if it weren't for them."

Jordan and the others said they did not get paid to stand guard. Rather, they did it because Merello had "employed many of them over the years and treats them with respect."



Wait, Breitbart reported this? I'm stunned. Normally Breitbart is so far right they make Fox look like Tass.
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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:52 pm

Maineiacs wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:A rather touching story




Wait, Breitbart reported this? I'm stunned. Normally Breitbart is so far right they make Fox look like Tass.


Why wouldn't the right report armed citizens protecting another citizen? :eyebrow:


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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:43 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Simply put, the grand jury's job is to determine if there is probable cause. Nothing more.


that's the standard for arrest.

It also happens to be the standard for indictment.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:45 pm

Seangoli wrote:I'm someone who thinks that the Grand Jury was in the wrong in the instance, but the pure number of people who want the justice system to ignore the rights of the accused is baffling in this thread. .

What rights of the accused do you think people have been advocating to be ignored?
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:50 pm

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Seangoli wrote:I'm someone who thinks that the Grand Jury was in the wrong in the instance, but the pure number of people who want the justice system to ignore the rights of the accused is baffling in this thread. .

What rights of the accused do you think people have been advocating to be ignored?


Well, he's been cruelly deprived of his right to a fair trial.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:42 pm

DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:
Oil exporting People wrote:A rather touching story



pfft, obviously a case of the Stockholm syndrome.

or uncle tom.


seems like the guy gave them jobs and treated them well, Suppose to burn his ass too?

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Postby Jinos » Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:56 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

Wait, Breitbart reported this? I'm stunned. Normally Breitbart is so far right they make Fox look like Tass.


Why wouldn't the right report armed citizens protecting another citizen? :eyebrow:


Because Breitbart, like much of the Right Wing media, is pretty racist?
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:59 pm

Fox's take on Wilson's resignation

Well, this really changes nothing, now doesn't it?

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Nov 29, 2014 5:00 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Maineiacs wrote:

Wait, Breitbart reported this? I'm stunned. Normally Breitbart is so far right they make Fox look like Tass.


Why wouldn't the right report armed citizens protecting another citizen? :eyebrow:


Because it competes with their narrative about black people looking for any excuse to loot rather than get a job.

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Postby Toronina » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:09 pm

I suggest anyone who believes the officer is guilty do not check out the website Imgur, as the users there seem to be heavily biased towards the officer, to the point where they seem to dismiss any evidence against him
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:12 pm

Toronina wrote:I suggest anyone who believes the officer is guilty do not check out the website Imgur, as the users there seem to be heavily biased towards the officer, to the point where they seem to dismiss any evidence against him


And is this a bad thing?
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:12 pm

Toronina wrote:I suggest anyone who believes the officer is guilty do not check out the website Imgur, as the users there seem to be heavily biased towards the officer, to the point where they seem to dismiss any evidence against him


Do they have pictures of rap stars alleged to be Michael Brown smoking dope, flashing gang signs and middle fingers yet?
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Postby Toronina » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:18 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Toronina wrote:I suggest anyone who believes the officer is guilty do not check out the website Imgur, as the users there seem to be heavily biased towards the officer, to the point where they seem to dismiss any evidence against him


And is this a bad thing?

Not everyone has the same opinion as you.

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Toronina wrote:I suggest anyone who believes the officer is guilty do not check out the website Imgur, as the users there seem to be heavily biased towards the officer, to the point where they seem to dismiss any evidence against him


Do they have pictures of rap stars alleged to be Michael Brown smoking dope, flashing gang signs and middle fingers yet?
Not yet, though I wouldn't put it past them.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:24 pm

Toronina wrote:Not everyone has the same opinion as you.


And not everyone is as informed.

Not yet, though I wouldn't put it past them.


Is it so hard to assume that Michael Brown in this case actually isn't the innocent victim of "institutionalized racism" and that he was someone who was in the process of committing a crime and acting in a violent and aggressive manner towards the officer in question?

Because God forbid a police officer with no non lethal method of subduing a criminal at his disposal defend himself from being beaten and possibly suffering life threatening injuries.
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Postby Toronina » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:33 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Toronina wrote:Not everyone has the same opinion as you.


And not everyone is as informed.

Not yet, though I wouldn't put it past them.


Is it so hard to assume that Michael Brown in this case actually isn't the innocent victim of "institutionalized racism" and that he was someone who was in the process of committing a crime and acting in a violent and aggressive manner towards the officer in question?

Because God forbid a police officer with no non lethal method of subduing a criminal at his disposal defend himself from being beaten and possibly suffering life threatening injuries.

His injuries didn't even match up to what he said happened, and his account is full of mistakes.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:35 pm

Toronina wrote:His injuries didn't even match up to what he said happened, and his account is full of mistakes.


You only have to look through the thread to find out why this assertion is bullshit. Hell, there were discussions only a couple of pages back about the entry wound in Brown' skull.
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Postby Toronina » Sat Nov 29, 2014 7:47 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Toronina wrote:His injuries didn't even match up to what he said happened, and his account is full of mistakes.


You only have to look through the thread to find out why this assertion is bullshit. Hell, there were discussions only a couple of pages back about the entry wound in Brown' skull.

Like I said, not everyone agrees with you. IMHO Officer Wilson is a dangerous man who needs to be locked up forever.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:02 pm

Toronina wrote:Like I said, not everyone agrees with you. IMHO Officer Wilson is a dangerous man who needs to be locked up forever.


Because he shot someone that had attacked him in self defense because that was the only method of stopping Brown he had left. Remember, Wilson didn't have a taser with him when he responded to the robbery because the police department was short on funding and did not have enough money to equip all officers with tasers, which would have saved Brown's life and likely would have seen Brown locked up in jail. Where he should be if he is going to go out and commit crimes.

Wilson is no more dangerous than other officers out there with nothing more than pepper spray and a gun. Honestly, what else do you expect someone to do when they've already been assaulted and are about to do so again? You defend yourself.

Your opinion and assertion that Wilson is a dangerous man is exactly the kind of uninformed, media manipulated opinions that Imgur was getting at. If you so much as looked at the facts readily available to you, you'd be able to see this. But go ahead, continue to live in your own little world where common criminals are idolized because "institutionalized racism".
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Postby Greed and Death » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:05 pm

Oil exporting People wrote:A rather touching story

A group of black Ferguson residents armed with AR-15s and other weapons stood guard around a Conoco station, owned by a white man, and saved it from being burned after looters began wreaking havoc on November 24.

Because of the armed citizens, the Conoco was not only spared, but the owner did not even have to board up the station's windows.

According to Reuters, one of the men guarding the station was 37-year-old "Derrick Jordan--'Stretch,' as his friends call him." He arrived in front of the Conoco, pulled out an AR-15, and stood guard at the store's entrance. He was joined by three other black residents on November 25--all of whom had "pistols tucked into their waistbands" and all of whom took up positions around the Conoco.

Other armed black men joined Jordan and the others from time to time to help keep guard. They protected not only the building, but also citizens who pulled up to get gas.
Store owner Doug Merello said, "We would have been burned to the ground many times over if it weren't for them."

Jordan and the others said they did not get paid to stand guard. Rather, they did it because Merello had "employed many of them over the years and treats them with respect."

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Postby Inyourfaceistan » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:05 pm

Toronina wrote:
Costa Fierro wrote:
You only have to look through the thread to find out why this assertion is bullshit. Hell, there were discussions only a couple of pages back about the entry wound in Brown' skull.

Like I said, not everyone agrees with you. IMHO Officer Wilson is a dangerous man who needs to be locked up forever.


Well you aren't the grand jury, so...


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Postby Gauthier » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:08 pm

Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Toronina wrote:Like I said, not everyone agrees with you. IMHO Officer Wilson is a dangerous man who needs to be locked up forever.


Well you aren't the grand jury, so...


Grand jury didn't decide guilt.
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Postby Des-Bal » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:10 pm

Gauthier wrote:Grand jury didn't decide guilt.


Right, they just decided there was no reason to bother charging him. If he'd been acquitted you'd say well they didn't find him innocent. If evidence came out conclusively proving Wilson acted reasonably you'd say it was insubstantial. You decided guilt when you learned the races of the people involved and that is terrible.
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Postby Jamzmania » Sat Nov 29, 2014 8:11 pm

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Inyourfaceistan wrote:
Well you aren't the grand jury, so...


Grand jury didn't decide guilt.

No, but they did decide that there wasn't enough evidence to prosecute. If the Grand Jury has made a conclusion like that, one has to wonder from what evidence "Officer Wilson is a dangerous man who needs to be locked up forever" comes from.
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