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by Deral » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:37 pm

by Narland » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:43 pm
Lordieth wrote:Narland wrote:
There is a big differnce. Those who kill each other in the name of Christ do so in disobedience to Christ and against Christ's example. Those who kill in the name of Islam do so in obedience to the Quran and in the example of Muhammed.
So the Spanish Inquisition..Catholicism was just having an off day, was it?

by Southern Test Islands » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:43 pm

by Ereria » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:45 pm
Narland wrote:Lordieth wrote:
So the Spanish Inquisition..Catholicism was just having an off day, was it?
the spanish inquisition is the perfect example. those aspects of the roman catholic institution that began sanctioning murder ceased to be christian. anyone can call themselves anything, but when they disregard the defining characteristics of what they claim to be they cease to be what they claim but are in deed become hypocrites. hypocrisy isnt limited to christianity, but christ treated hypocrits especially harsh.
islam on the other hand from the conquest of mecca has sanctioned the murder of non-muslims. it was instituted by muhammed and commanded in the quran. muhammed is the expemplar of how muslims should behave.
christ is the exemplar of how christian should behave. christ said to love your enemies, do good to those who spite you, and pray for those who mistreat you. he led by example to the point of sacrificing himself for the good of others.

by Laanvia » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:49 pm

by Lexcronica » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:51 pm

by Lordieth » Mon Nov 24, 2014 1:51 pm
Narland wrote:Lordieth wrote:
So the Spanish Inquisition..Catholicism was just having an off day, was it?
the spanish inquisition is the perfect example. those aspects of the roman catholic institution that began sanctioning murder ceased to be christian. anyone can call themselves anything, but when they disregard the defining characteristics of what they claim to be they cease to be what they claim but are in deed become hypocrites. hypocrisy isnt limited to christianity, but christ treated hypocrits especially harsh.
islam on the other hand from the conquest of mecca has sanctioned the murder of non-muslims. it was instituted by muhammed and commanded in the quran. muhammed is the expemplar of how muslims should behave.
christ is the exemplar of how christian should behave. christ said to love your enemies, do good to those who spite you, and pray for those who mistreat you. he led by example to the point of sacrificing himself for the good of others.
Chapter 2, Verse 190: "Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loves not transgressors."

by Narland » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:01 pm

by New haven america » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:03 pm
Araksasya wrote:Just because of 9/11, c'mon 13 years ago, a lunatic fringe group did a horrible thing, but now peoplehave so much hate. We don't hate Germans because of Hitler and Nazis but yet we hate Muslims because of al-Qaeda and Bin Laden?

by Apparatchikstan » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:24 pm
Ereria wrote:Narland wrote:
the spanish inquisition is the perfect example. those aspects of the roman catholic institution that began sanctioning murder ceased to be christian. anyone can call themselves anything, but when they disregard the defining characteristics of what they claim to be they cease to be what they claim but are in deed become hypocrites. hypocrisy isnt limited to christianity, but christ treated hypocrits especially harsh.
islam on the other hand from the conquest of mecca has sanctioned the murder of non-muslims. it was instituted by muhammed and commanded in the quran. muhammed is the expemplar of how muslims should behave.
christ is the exemplar of how christian should behave. christ said to love your enemies, do good to those who spite you, and pray for those who mistreat you. he led by example to the point of sacrificing himself for the good of others.
You are totally wrong mate. We don't kill in Islam except in self defence. Christianity has been 10 times more violent. If I were to list up every mass killing christians did, I would fill a whole NS page.

by Auroya » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:26 pm

by The Cobalt Sky » Mon Nov 24, 2014 2:41 pm
Narland wrote:The Cobalt Sky wrote:Incorrect. Luke 12:51.
Luke 12:51 is very true. These verses talk about the extreme trouble that Christians will face when converting.
Not Peace but Division
49 “I came to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already set ablaze! 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how it consumes Me until it is finished! 51 Do you think that I came here to give peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but rather division! 52 From now on, five in one household will be divided: three against two, and two against three.
53 They will be divided, father against son,
son against father,
mother against daughter,
daughter against mother,
mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law,
and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”[o]
My step-father, was especially disappointed when he found out I had become a Christian, but later accepted that fact. It was very devisive. There are those in other cultures who have not been so fortunate. They have been slandered, disowned, and even killed by family for becoming Christians.
Families have been divided about the issue ever since.

by Narland » Mon Nov 24, 2014 3:08 pm
The Cobalt Sky wrote:Narland wrote:
Luke 12:51 is very true. These verses talk about the extreme trouble that Christians will face when converting.
Not Peace but Division
49 “I came to bring fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already set ablaze! 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with, and how it consumes Me until it is finished! 51 Do you think that I came here to give peace to the earth? No, I tell you, but rather division! 52 From now on, five in one household will be divided: three against two, and two against three.
53 They will be divided, father against son,
son against father,
mother against daughter,
daughter against mother,
mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law,
and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”[o]
My step-father, was especially disappointed when he found out I had become a Christian, but later accepted that fact. It was very devisive. There are those in other cultures who have not been so fortunate. They have been slandered, disowned, and even killed by family for becoming Christians.
Families have been divided about the issue ever since.
Leviticus 20:9, then. That one definitely seems to support killing.

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by Trollgaard » Mon Nov 24, 2014 5:04 pm
Globalcontrol wrote:Its because of the bad name ISIS gave it. Murder's, Rape, Constant killing. Its ISIS that has seriously beat Islam in to the corner.
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