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Postby Niur » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:29 pm

Blouman Empire wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Niur wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Niur wrote:I believe homosexuality is morally wrong because it implies sexuality, which is not only immoral, but unatural. Sex is what is causing the virus that is humanity to grow. Their is no reason to continue to increase our population, but there are reasons against it. Are population is unsustainably high, which means it needs to decrease, or cease to exist, or else we will destroy the balence of nature permanantly. Non-hetero sexuality is also immoral for it fosters positive feelings for the virus that is humanity, which prevents the massive human cull we so desperatly need. This is why homosexuality, along with all sexuality, is morally repugnant.


:?
Maybe we should encourage homosexuality, as it is incapable of causing reproduction, thus destroying this destructive virus.

I explained this already.


... fair enough. Can we still just have sex if we cull the person afterwords?


It happens in nature therefore it must be good.

Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:30 pm

Niur wrote:Everything in human life.


Why?
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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:30 pm

Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


What is 'nature'?
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?

Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.

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JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.

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Postby Niur » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:31 pm

Takaram wrote:
Niur wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Niur wrote:I believe homosexuality is morally wrong because it implies sexuality, which is not only immoral, but unatural. Sex is what is causing the virus that is humanity to grow. Their is no reason to continue to increase our population, but there are reasons against it. Are population is unsustainably high, which means it needs to decrease, or cease to exist, or else we will destroy the balence of nature permanantly. Non-hetero sexuality is also immoral for it fosters positive feelings for the virus that is humanity, which prevents the massive human cull we so desperatly need. This is why homosexuality, along with all sexuality, is morally repugnant.


:?
Maybe we should encourage homosexuality, as it is incapable of causing reproduction, thus destroying this destructive virus.

I explained this already.


... fair enough. Can we still just have sex if we cull the person afterwords?

If suicide became an active tradition in the art of sex because of this, and all members using each other were culled, then yes.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:31 pm

Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Bullshit. Everything. In. Existence. Is. Natural.
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby Niur » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:31 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Bullshit. Everything. In. Existence. Is. Natural.

I consider nature to be everything except humanity.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Postby Blouman Empire » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:32 pm

Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Fail, it was an attack on people who say because homosexuality happens in nature it is perfectly alright.
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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:32 pm

Niur wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Bullshit. Everything. In. Existence. Is. Natural.

I consider nature to be everything except humanity.

:|

Rather circular, that is.
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?

Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.

Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.

JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.

Mercator Terra wrote: Mental illness is a myth.

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Postby Niur » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:32 pm

New Kereptica wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


What is 'nature'?

Everything on earth, all life, biodiversity.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Postby New Kereptica » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:33 pm

Niur wrote:
New Kereptica wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


What is 'nature'?

Everything on earth, all life, biodiversity.


Oh? I thought you said that you considered 'nature' to be everything non-human?
Blouman Empire wrote:Natural is not nature.

KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Umm hmm.... mind if I siggy that as a reminder to those who think that it is cool to shove their bat-shit crazy atheist beliefs on those of us who actually have a clue?

Teccor wrote:You're actually arguing with Kereptica? It's like arguing with a far-Left, militantly atheist brick wall.

Bluth Corporation wrote:No. A free market literally has zero bubbles.

JJ Place wrote:I have a few more pressing matters to attend to right now; I'll be back later this evening to continue my one-man against the world struggle.

Mercator Terra wrote: Mental illness is a myth.

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Postby Takaram » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:33 pm

Niur wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Bullshit. Everything. In. Existence. Is. Natural.

I consider nature to be everything except humanity.


What if I'm not human? Can I then assist in said purge and enjoy the world all to myself?

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:33 pm

Niur wrote:I consider nature to be everything except humanity.


What a needless exclusion. Why?
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:34 pm

Niur wrote:Everything on earth, all life, biodiversity.


So just life? Not black holes, space-time, electrons, quarks, supernovae, galaxies, or neutron stars?
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby Niur » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:35 pm

Blouman Empire wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Fail, it was an attack on people who say because homosexuality happens in nature it is perfectly alright.

What? I was responding to a comment that said that becuase sex happend in nature it was okay for the virus that is humanity to do it, but human sex does not occur in nature, only in humanity.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Postby Niur » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:35 pm

UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Niur wrote:Everything on earth, all life, biodiversity.


So just life? Not black holes, space-time, electrons, quarks, supernovae, galaxies, or neutron stars?

Nope.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:35 pm

Niur wrote:
JJ Place wrote:
Niur wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Niur wrote:I believe homosexuality is morally wrong because it implies sexuality, which is not only immoral, but unatural. Sex is what is causing the virus that is humanity to grow. Their is no reason to continue to increase our population, but there are reasons against it. Are population is unsustainably high, which means it needs to decrease, or cease to exist, or else we will destroy the balence of nature permanantly. Non-hetero sexuality is also immoral for it fosters positive feelings for the virus that is humanity, which prevents the massive human cull we so desperatly need. This is why homosexuality, along with all sexuality, is morally repugnant.


:?
Maybe we should encourage homosexuality, as it is incapable of causing reproduction, thus destroying this destructive virus.

I explained this already.


So everything in life is immoral?

Everything in human life.


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Postby Niur » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:35 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Niur wrote:
JJ Place wrote:
Niur wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Niur wrote:I believe homosexuality is morally wrong because it implies sexuality, which is not only immoral, but unatural. Sex is what is causing the virus that is humanity to grow. Their is no reason to continue to increase our population, but there are reasons against it. Are population is unsustainably high, which means it needs to decrease, or cease to exist, or else we will destroy the balence of nature permanantly. Non-hetero sexuality is also immoral for it fosters positive feelings for the virus that is humanity, which prevents the massive human cull we so desperatly need. This is why homosexuality, along with all sexuality, is morally repugnant.


:?
Maybe we should encourage homosexuality, as it is incapable of causing reproduction, thus destroying this destructive virus.

I explained this already.


So everything in life is immoral?

Everything in human life.


Judge Death wrote:"The crime is life, the sentence is death!"

This is my logic! :lol:
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:36 pm

Niur wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Bullshit. Everything. In. Existence. Is. Natural.

I consider nature to be everything except humanity.


Then you are wrong.

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Postby Niur » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:36 pm

Takaram wrote:
Niur wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Bullshit. Everything. In. Existence. Is. Natural.

I consider nature to be everything except humanity.


What if I'm not human? Can I then assist in said purge and enjoy the world all to myself?

I would need proof your not human. DNA, and explosives.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:37 pm

Niur wrote:Nope.


So why don't they count?
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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Postby Takaram » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:37 pm

Niur wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Niur wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Bullshit. Everything. In. Existence. Is. Natural.

I consider nature to be everything except humanity.


What if I'm not human? Can I then assist in said purge and enjoy the world all to myself?

I would need proof your not human. DNA, and explosives.


Can I take the word of Fred Phelps? He says gays aren't human.

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Postby Niur » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:37 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:
Niur wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Bullshit. Everything. In. Existence. Is. Natural.

I consider nature to be everything except humanity.


Then you are wrong.

*shrugs*

Perhaps I am using a term that is not the best in this situation.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Postby Grave_n_idle » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:39 pm

Niur wrote:
Grave_n_idle wrote:
Niur wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Bullshit. Everything. In. Existence. Is. Natural.

I consider nature to be everything except humanity.


Then you are wrong.

*shrugs*

Perhaps I am using a term that is not the best in this situation.


You could, perhaps, argue - that things that are artifacts constructed by mankind might not be 'natural' in the strictest sense, since they don't occur in 'nature', except in as much as we make them do so.

Of course, byt the same logic, a beaver's dam isn't 'natural' either... so, it looks like a losing argument.

Humans, on the other hand? We are natural, almost by definition
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Postby Niur » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:40 pm

Takaram wrote:
Niur wrote:
Takaram wrote:
Niur wrote:
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:
Niur wrote:Humanity no longer occurs in nature, it occurs against nature.


Bullshit. Everything. In. Existence. Is. Natural.

I consider nature to be everything except humanity.


What if I'm not human? Can I then assist in said purge and enjoy the world all to myself?

I would need proof your not human. DNA, and explosives.


Can I take the word of Fred Phelps? He says gays aren't human.

Just another person trying to save the homosexuals from the purge.
"In cahuitontli ca otopan, yehuantzitzin yollochipahuac tonaz, yeceh yehuantzitzin tica imanimanmeh tlahueliloc telchihualozque. In cahuitontli ca teuctlatolli ic otopan, auh yehuan quitzacua, in neltiliztli, onyezque huetztoc!"

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Postby UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:41 pm

Grave_n_idle wrote:You could, perhaps, argue - that things that are artifacts constructed by mankind might not be 'natural' in the strictest sense, since they don't occur in 'nature', except in as much as we make them do so.

Of course, byt the same logic, a beaver's dam isn't 'natural' either... so, it looks like a losing argument.

Humans, on the other hand? We are natural, almost by definition


Since the things that happen in the brain are the product of natural forces, I fail to see how the products of human thought are any less natural than anything else.
A little homework for you!

What part of L(f(t)) = Int(exp(-s*t)*f(t),t,0,inf) don't you understand?

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