Worst Leader your (RL) Country ever had?

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

All Japanese Governors that had occupied Korea for 35 years.

That isn't really a "leader" per se.

Besides the Governors of Korea hardly led Japan.

Maybe he's Korean and not Japanese?

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

[citation needed]

Cancer. Someone came out with a more effective cure, but since the testing would involving killing people he refused, and the cancer society of the US pretty much got him exiled.

Fibromyalgia.

Cystic fibrosis

whatever Stephen hawking has,

Depression.

Asthma


Want more they put out partial cures to?

Those can't be permanently cured though, and fuck, I'd rather not be labeled as a murderer just for testing cancer treatments.

[Firsthome]

they make money from premiums

giving care costs them money

they less care they give the more money they make

taking care of someones chronic condition for years is also expensive, probably more so then they will ever be able to afford. so they most cost effective way is to find a way to drop them.

They don't lose money from giving care, sure, it's an expense, but they charge a hell of a lot more than it costs them.

There's your problem.

[Firsthome]

Cancer. Someone came out with a more effective cure, but since the testing would involving killing people he refused, and the cancer society of the US pretty much got him exiled.

Fibromyalgia.

Cystic fibrosis

whatever Stephen hawking has,

Depression.

Asthma


Want more they put out partial cures to?

Those can't be permanently cured though, and fuck, I'd rather not be labeled as a murderer just for testing cancer treatments.

I was blaming the cancer society for not believing him. He tested it on animals (he was a veterinarian )

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

They don't lose money from giving care, sure, it's an expense, but they charge a hell of a lot more than it costs them.

their point is to maximize profit, the best way to do which is to minimize expenses.

do you remember the whole pre-existing condition shit? did you ever wonder why they did that and did everything they possibly could to get out of giving care to people?

example: if they spend $20 for an operation and charge $40, they make a $20 profit (ignoring tax and all that shit).
if they do 4 operations at $20 each and still make a $20 profit on each, they make $80, right? The more they do, the more money they make. I really don't know how you can't see that.
I worked as a bloody pharmaceutical salesman, I KNOW for a fact that they will do anything to sell people drugs, regardless of whether or not they need them.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

They don't lose money from giving care, sure, it's an expense, but they charge a hell of a lot more than it costs them.

There's your problem.

what?

[Alyakia]

their point is to maximize profit, the best way to do which is to minimize expenses.

do you remember the whole pre-existing condition shit? did you ever wonder why they did that and did everything they possibly could to get out of giving care to people?

example: if they spend $20 for an operation and charge $40, they make a $20 profit (ignoring tax and all that shit).
if they do 4 operations at $20 each and still make a $20 profit on each, they make $80, right? The more they do, the more money they make. I really don't know how you can't see that.

because that's not how it works. insurers do not make profit based on operations anymore than a car insurer makes money from you totaling your car and claiming for it. it means less money for them. it is in their interests to pay for as little as possible.

maybe a hospital might make money like that depending on the operation, but then the insurers will, as you have probably guessed, do everything in their power to pay as little as possible, up to and including refusing to give you it.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

Those can't be permanently cured though, and fuck, I'd rather not be labeled as a murderer just for testing cancer treatments.

I was blaming the cancer society for not believing him. He tested it on animals (he was a veterinarian )

I have not heard of him, then, may I have a link?

[Firsthome]

There's your problem.

what?

They charge money to help people. That's wrong. The government should help with that

[Alyakia]

their point is to maximize profit, the best way to do which is to minimize expenses.

do you remember the whole pre-existing condition shit? did you ever wonder why they did that and did everything they possibly could to get out of giving care to people?

example: if they spend $20 for an operation and charge $40, they make a $20 profit (ignoring tax and all that shit).
if they do 4 operations at $20 each and still make a $20 profit on each, they make $80, right? The more they do, the more money they make. I really don't know how you can't see that.
I worked as a bloody pharmaceutical salesman, I KNOW for a fact that they will do anything to sell people drugs, regardless of whether or not they need them.

it's in pharmacies interests to give people drugs

it is in insurers interests to avoid having to pay for these drugs

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

example: if they spend $20 for an operation and charge $40, they make a $20 profit (ignoring tax and all that shit).
if they do 4 operations at $20 each and still make a $20 profit on each, they make $80, right? The more they do, the more money they make. I really don't know how you can't see that.

because that's not how it works. insurers do not make profit based on operations anymore than a car insurer makes money from you totaling your car and claiming for it. it means less money for them. it is in their interests to pay for as little as possible.

maybe a hospital might make money like that depending on the operation, but then the insurers will, as you have probably guessed, do everything in their power to pay as little as possible, up to and including refusing to give you it.

Aye, you're talking about insurance companies, not hospitals and drug companies. I agree then, insurance companies are the devil.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

what?

They charge money to help people. That's wrong. The government should help with that

What? That's the basic premise of a service. People pay money for help/service, what's so immoral about that?

[Benuty]

They charge money to help people. That's wrong. The government should help with that

What? That's the basic premise of a service. People pay money for help/service, what's so immoral about that?

It is a remnant from the time of Feudalism for one.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

What? That's the basic premise of a service. People pay money for help/service, what's so immoral about that?

It is a remnant from the time of Feudalism for one.

That's ridiculous, services are necessary for society, and people don't like doing things for free.

[Firsthome]

I was blaming the cancer society for not believing him. He tested it on animals (he was a veterinarian )

I have not heard of him, then, may I have a link?

in some books, too

[The zombie empire]

Super Obama!
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[Firsthome]

Other things capitalists have done to doctors

Gaston Naessens – Dr. Naessens cancer treatment is based on the theory that cancer is caused by a friendly microorganism called somatids ("little bodies") -- which are present in all cells -- that becomes unfriendly. His formula, 714X, provides nitrogen to the cancer cells, thus causing this microorganism to cease excreting their toxic compounds, and mobilize your immune system to kill the cancer cells. He was subsequently put on trial for his cancer discoveries.

Stanislaw Burzynski -- Dr. Burzynski, founder of the Houston-based Burzynski Institute, treats cancer patients with substances called antineoplastons. He was indicted by a grand jury in 1995 for his use of antineoplastons– his second trial that year. He was acquitted.

Ryke Geerd Hamer – Dr. Hamer’s “German New Medicine” (GNM), operates under the premise that every disease originates from an unexpected shock experience, and that all disease can be cured by resolving these underlying emotional traumas. Despite a 95 percent success rate, Dr. Hamer has spent time in prison for refusing to disavow his medical findings and stop treating his patients with his unorthodox techniques, and is currently living in exile, seeking asylum from persecution.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

I have not heard of him, then, may I have a link?

in some books, too

1. that's not cancer
2. it was a 'possible' cure, and I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies had reason to believe it wouldn't work

[Firsthome]

in some books, too

1. that's not cancer
2. it was a 'possible' cure, and I'm sure the pharmaceutical companies had reason to believe it wouldn't work

I messed up, but it was a better idea then what the pharmacies do.

[Firsthome]

It is a remnant from the time of Feudalism for one.

That's ridiculous, services are necessary for society, and people don't like doing things for free.

People need to grow up.

[Benuty]

It is a remnant from the time of Feudalism for one.

That's ridiculous, services are necessary for society, and people don't like doing things for free.

You would say that if you didn't know history.

Its the exact same thing albeit modified from the system of free farmers paying for the services (tool or equipment) of the nobility.

So it is outdated.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

That's ridiculous, services are necessary for society, and people don't like doing things for free.

People need to grow up.

No, I refuse to work for free, no rational person ever would work for free.
work != volunteer work, for clarification

[Benuty]

People need to grow up.

No, I refuse to work for free, no rational person ever would work for free.

Yet they have.

[Fortitudinem]

Barack Obama, because Obamacare and trying to evade the Constitution.

[Firsthome]

People need to grow up.

No, I refuse to work for free, no greedy capitalist ever would work for free.

Fixed