Worst Leader your (RL) Country ever had?

[Firsthome]

Conservative backwater views. Medicine should be a right. And someone being born handicapped isn't necessarily the mothers fault.

It's more the mother's fault than the state's fault, wouldn't you agree? I don't believe that medicine should be a right, all the companies that make said medicine would be systematically eradicated if that were the case.

It's their fault for trying to make money and not cures.

[Benuty]

Conservative backwater views. Medicine should be a right. And someone being born handicapped isn't necessarily the mothers fault.

It's more the mother's fault than the state's fault, wouldn't you agree? I don't believe that medicine should be a right, all the companies that make said medicine would be systematically eradicated if that were the case.

Freud thought everything was the mothers fault.

Today we call anyone who espouses that view a quack.

[Alyakia]

1) there are a lot of rich people with shit work ethic. please explain this.
2) speaking of which, what if they don't have a family lol

1. they inherited it, I am anti-inheritance
2. that's almost impossible, put them in a homeless shelter or something then.

paid for by who, exactly?

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

It's more the mother's fault than the state's fault, wouldn't you agree? I don't believe that medicine should be a right, all the companies that make said medicine would be systematically eradicated if that were the case.

It's their fault for trying to make money and not cures.

They are capitalists, they are interested in doing both.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

1. they inherited it, I am anti-inheritance
2. that's almost impossible, put them in a homeless shelter or something then.

paid for by who, exactly?

volunteers?

[Firsthome]

1. they inherited it, I am anti-inheritance
2. that's almost impossible, put them in a homeless shelter or something then.

paid for by who, exactly?

:/ I'm for inheritance if it's a small enough amount.

Property no larger than a farm, IF a farm

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

It's more the mother's fault than the state's fault, wouldn't you agree? I don't believe that medicine should be a right, all the companies that make said medicine would be systematically eradicated if that were the case.

Freud thought everything was the mothers fault.

Today we call anyone who espouses that view a quack.

Well, let's not forget the father too.

[Laerod]

paid for by who, exactly?

volunteers?

But if everyone was a greedy as you are and want everyone to be, who would volunteer?

[Alyakia]

It's their fault for trying to make money and not cures.

They are capitalists, they are interested in doing both.

Ehrlichman: Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can—the reason he can do it—I had Edgar Kaiser come in—talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because—

President Nixon: [Unclear.]

Ehrlichman: —the less care they give them, the more money they make.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

volunteers?

But if everyone was a greedy as you are and want everyone to be, who would volunteer?

There's plenty of leftists just in this thread who would jump at the chance.

[Firsthome]

volunteers?

But if everyone was a greedy as you are and want everyone to be, who would volunteer?

We should expel him from life.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

They are capitalists, they are interested in doing both.

Ehrlichman: Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can—the reason he can do it—I had Edgar Kaiser come in—talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because—

President Nixon: [Unclear.]

Ehrlichman: —the less care they give them, the more money they make.

blatantly untrue
they make more money the more care they give, unless medicine is made a right and they don't get paid anymore.

[Firsthome]

It's their fault for trying to make money and not cures.

They are capitalists, they are interested in doing both.

Bad thing and no they aren't. They are interested in making a temp "cure" that you have to pay for until you die.

[Laerod]

But if everyone was a greedy as you are and want everyone to be, who would volunteer?

There's plenty of leftists just in this thread who would jump at the chance.

Do they have a different definition for "everyone" in Kentucky than they do everywhere else? =S

[Alyakia]

Ehrlichman: Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can—the reason he can do it—I had Edgar Kaiser come in—talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because—

President Nixon: [Unclear.]

Ehrlichman: —the less care they give them, the more money they make.

blatantly untrue

based on what, exactly? do you have something that will disprove all examples and documentation? please don't give me a "but mises said...".

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

They are capitalists, they are interested in doing both.

Bad thing and no they aren't. They are interested in making a temp "cure" that you have to pay for until you die.

[citation needed]

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

There's plenty of leftists just in this thread who would jump at the chance.

Do they have a different definition for "everyone" in Kentucky than they do everywhere else? =S

I don't want everyone to be greedy, I don't care if you're greedy or not, if you want to help the disabled, be my guest, but don't tread on me.

[Laerod]

Oh, hey, it's a threadjack.

HITLER!

There, maybe that will get this thread back on its rails.

[Alyakia]

Ehrlichman: Edgar Kaiser is running his Permanente deal for profit. And the reason that he can—the reason he can do it—I had Edgar Kaiser come in—talk to me about this and I went into it in some depth. All the incentives are toward less medical care, because—

President Nixon: [Unclear.]

Ehrlichman: —the less care they give them, the more money they make.

blatantly untrue
they make more money the more care they give, unless medicine is made a right and they don't get paid anymore.

they make money from premiums

giving care costs them money

they less care they give the more money they make

taking care of someones chronic condition for years is also expensive, probably more so then they will ever be able to afford. so they most cost effective way is to find a way to drop them.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

blatantly untrue

based on what, exactly? do you have something that will disprove all examples and documentation? please don't give me a "but mises said...".

The more they sell, the more money they make, obviously. UNTIL, you make medicine free, and then there's nobody left to make the free medicine and to give the free healthcare.

[Atlantica]

All Japanese Governors that had occupied Korea for 35 years.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

blatantly untrue
they make more money the more care they give, unless medicine is made a right and they don't get paid anymore.

they make money from premiums

giving care costs them money

they less care they give the more money they make

taking care of someones chronic condition for years is also expensive, probably more so then they will ever be able to afford. so they most cost effective way is to find a way to drop them.

They don't lose money from giving care, sure, it's an expense, but they charge a hell of a lot more than it costs them.

[Benuty]

All Japanese Governors that had occupied Korea for 35 years.

That isn't really a "leader" per se.

Besides the Governors of Korea hardly led Japan.

[Alyakia]

they make money from premiums

giving care costs them money

they less care they give the more money they make

taking care of someones chronic condition for years is also expensive, probably more so then they will ever be able to afford. so they most cost effective way is to find a way to drop them.

They don't lose money from giving care, sure, it's an expense, but they charge a hell of a lot more than it costs them.

their point is to maximize profit, the best way to do which is to minimize expenses.

do you remember the whole pre-existing condition shit? did you ever wonder why they did that and did everything they possibly could to get out of giving care to people?

[Firsthome]

Bad thing and no they aren't. They are interested in making a temp "cure" that you have to pay for until you die.

[citation needed]

Cancer. Someone came out with a more effective cure, but since the testing would involving killing people he refused, and the cancer society of the US pretty much got him exiled.

Fibromyalgia.

Cystic fibrosis

whatever Stephen hawking has,

Depression.

Asthma


Want more they put out partial cures to?