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Mesrane
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Postby Mesrane » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:16 pm

Laerod wrote:
Unicario wrote:Richard Nixon for United States
Angela Merkel for Federal Republic of Germany (Hitler is a given, and I'm counting only Herr Adenauer to present day)
Tony Blair / David Cameron tie for my birthplace, Britannia.

Merkel: Worse than Nazis!

I think he's saying she's the worst since the Nazis.
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Senyosu
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Postby Senyosu » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:16 pm

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Mesrane wrote:Taxes- http://countries.bridgat.com/Middle_East.html
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Granted, the bottom one is a bit out of date, but I still think it's valid.

Foreign Policy- Fair enough. Perhaps "bone-headed," would be a better term.

Yeah, alright. He jumps out of the bottom five, then for me. Not that I have high expectations for his final two years.

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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:17 pm

Laerod wrote:
Unicario wrote:Richard Nixon for United States
Angela Merkel for Federal Republic of Germany (Hitler is a given, and I'm counting only Herr Adenauer to present day)
Tony Blair / David Cameron tie for my birthplace, Britannia.

Merkel: Worse than Nazis!


Honestly. Has she been so bad?
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Unicario
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Postby Unicario » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:17 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Laerod wrote:Merkel: Worse than Nazis!

I think he's saying she's the worst since the Nazis.


She's the worst German leader SINCE 1945. I'm not counting Adolf Hitler because it's obvious that he's the worst German leader in all history. >>

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Laerod wrote:Merkel: Worse than Nazis!


Honestly. Has she been so bad?


It's not like she's evil or anything, I just think her administration has been ineffective in dealing with the problems of the Eurozone, and as a result, the EU continues to be beleaguered as if 2008 had never ended.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:18 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Laerod wrote:Merkel: Worse than Nazis!


Honestly. Has she been so bad?


She's been bad, yes, but not NAZI bad.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:18 pm

Double post.
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Calimera II
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Postby Calimera II » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:18 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Laerod wrote:Merkel: Worse than Nazis!


Honestly. Has she been so bad?

Nope. I think she is one of the best leaders Germany ever had.
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Laerod
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Postby Laerod » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:18 pm

Mesrane wrote:
Laerod wrote:Merkel: Worse than Nazis!

I think he's saying she's the worst since the Nazis.

Nope. He's saying she's worse than Kurt Kiesinger, a Nazi and the Chancellor in power during the heavy handed dealings with student protests in the late sixties.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:19 pm

Unicario wrote:Places I've lived:

Richard Nixon for United States
Justification: Backhanded politico who sabotaged peace in Vietnam for his own gain, and did countless morally unjust things against his own people.
Angela Merkel for Federal Republic of Germany (Hitler is a given, and I'm counting only Herr Adenauer to present day)
Justification: Oversaw the stunted growth of the European economy and continues to insist upon austerity measures although they have pretty much failed.
Tony Blair / David Cameron tie for my birthplace, Britannia.
Justification: They're both gits who have the political skills of a handicapped chimpanzee. At least Thatcher could light a fire under someone's arse...

Britannia refers to Roman Britain(Britianna), but i get where you're coming from.
I'd say that Hitler was the worse out of the two
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Laerod
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Postby Laerod » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:19 pm

Unicario wrote:
Mesrane wrote:I think he's saying she's the worst since the Nazis.


She's the worst German leader SINCE 1945. I'm not counting Adolf Hitler because it's obvious that he's the worst German leader in all history. >>

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Honestly. Has she been so bad?


It's not like she's evil or anything, I just think her administration has been ineffective in dealing with the problems of the Eurozone, and as a result, the EU continues to be beleaguered as if 2008 had never ended.

Kurt Georg fucking Kiesinger. If you're gonna count since Adenauer, don't skip any steps in between.
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Unicario
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Postby Unicario » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:19 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Unicario wrote:Places I've lived:

Richard Nixon for United States
Justification: Backhanded politico who sabotaged peace in Vietnam for his own gain, and did countless morally unjust things against his own people.
Angela Merkel for Federal Republic of Germany (Hitler is a given, and I'm counting only Herr Adenauer to present day)
Justification: Oversaw the stunted growth of the European economy and continues to insist upon austerity measures although they have pretty much failed.
Tony Blair / David Cameron tie for my birthplace, Britannia.
Justification: They're both gits who have the political skills of a handicapped chimpanzee. At least Thatcher could light a fire under someone's arse...

Britannia refers to Roman Britain(Britianna), but i get where you're coming from.
I'd say that Hitler was the worse out of the two


Again. Federal Republic of Germany. Not German Reich / Nazi Germany.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:20 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Honestly. Has she been so bad?


She's been bad, yes, but not NAZI bad.


Alright. I was curious.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:24 pm

Unicario wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Britannia refers to Roman Britain(Britianna), but i get where you're coming from.
I'd say that Hitler was the worse out of the two


Again. Federal Republic of Germany. Not German Reich / Nazi Germany.

Bundesrepublik Deutschland.
I'm deciding on Herbert Ernst Karl Frahm or Angela
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Postby Laerod » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:26 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Unicario wrote:
Again. Federal Republic of Germany. Not German Reich / Nazi Germany.

Bundesrepublik Deutschland.
I'm deciding on Herbert Ernst Karl Frahm or Angela

Both terribly inappropriate choices.
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:27 pm

Laerod wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Bundesrepublik Deutschland.
I'm deciding on Herbert Ernst Karl Frahm or Angela

Both terribly inappropriate choices.

Exactly.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:29 pm

Unicario wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Britannia refers to Roman Britain(Britianna), but i get where you're coming from.
I'd say that Hitler was the worse out of the two


Again. Federal Republic of Germany. Not German Reich / Nazi Germany.


Is she really the absolute worst PM Germany's had? Without a doubt? I somehow doubt it.
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Postby Unicario » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:30 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Unicario wrote:
Again. Federal Republic of Germany. Not German Reich / Nazi Germany.


Is she really the absolute worst PM Germany's had? Without a doubt? I somehow doubt it.


It's entirely opinion on who you think is the worst; Everyone has their own beliefs on who was a bad Chancellor / PM / President.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:31 pm

Unicario wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Is she really the absolute worst PM Germany's had? Without a doubt? I somehow doubt it.


It's entirely opinion on who you think is the worst; Everyone has their own beliefs on who was a bad Chancellor / PM / President.


I'd rather make that assertion on evidence, not opinion. Why, with evidence, is Merkel the worst PM so far Germany's had?
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Postby Laerod » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:35 pm

Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:
Laerod wrote:Both terribly inappropriate choices.

Exactly.

Inappropriate as "Worst leader ever".
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Postby Furry Alairia and Algeria » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:36 pm

Laerod wrote:
Furry Alairia and Algeria wrote:Exactly.

Inappropriate as "Worst leader ever".

That's not the topic. The topic is for worst leader of your country, where he's going into the current state.
Nonetheless, I do realize they are inappropriate.
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Postby Rhodigai Nations » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:48 pm

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:the USA is a hellhole because it's marching down the path of collectivism. Welfare and people advocating for free healthcare, what happened to paying for one's own needs by oneself.


Uh... no. The USA is not even glancing in the direction of true collectivism. This is one of the most hard-right countries on Earth--best described as a corporatocracy, since mega-corps pretty much own every politician now, with only a small few exceptions (like the great Bernie Sanders).

The fact of the matter is, there will ALWAYS be the less fortunate in society. Moral, collectivist societies care for the less fortunate. Immoral and sociopathic ones leave them to rot. Simple as that.

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What happened to the super rich paying a tax rate higher than the rich, and in some cases even the middle class? What happens if you only receive a poor level of schooling? What happens if you are born poor and with severe learning disabilities? What happens if you are unlucky? What happens if corporations prefer using cheap foreign labour?

you're fucked, as it's supposed to be
unless, of course, you show a will to improve


Thanks, NSSA, for some sense in this particular reply thread. Many people are naturally unlucky and simply can't make it, and others are simply lacking in opportunity. Lacking opportunity is a VERY wide category--it can be anything from being stuck in an area with a poor transportation system that keeps them from accessing jobs (no, not everyone can simply move on a whim), to having a physical disability. To say that those people should just be "fucked" is a horrible attitude to have, and actually constitutes an issue that requires treatment by mental health professionals.
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Postby The Polarian Empire » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:09 pm

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Postby Lydenburg » Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:22 pm

Amazuma. And I thought we couldn't possibly get any worse with Mbeki.
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